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ROK Lobster
23rd April 2006, 02:49 PM
Best qtr we have played this season, through the middle of the park. Still not sure what LRT adds to the team - nice mark he took sitting on his arse...

mpr104
23rd April 2006, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Best qtr we have played this season, through the middle of the park. Still not sure what LRT adds to the team - nice mark he took sitting on his arse...

I agree brought the ball through the centre well, but still dropping it on Hall's head, which he will struggle to mark when he is double and triple teamed.

mpr104
23rd April 2006, 02:52 PM
Still struggling in the center, Demon's won the clearances 12 - 6 in that 1/4.

Foreign Legion
23rd April 2006, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by mpr104
Still struggling in the center, Demon's won the clearances 12 - 6 in that 1/4.

Least that last half of the qtr was better - still not playing well but some OK signs.

Malceski needs to stick closer to Pickett but Nick is playing pretty well when he gets it.

Bleed Red Blood
23rd April 2006, 03:25 PM
Much of a nothing at the moment.

Pickett is killing us.

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 03:27 PM
We still look ordinary.

Goodes played well in the first qtr, less so in the second, but needs to do the simple things well, like kicking relatively easy goals.

Getting well beaten in the centre again.

J Bolton having a very poor game. Ablett doing very little.

Malceski has done some useful things - is he on Pickett? If so needs to follow him more closely.

Davis has done some good things, but again they ignore him too much.

Schneider has been playing well.

Mathews great work on Johnstone.

Kennelly has helped a bit with our run through the centre.

Jolly doing okay.

C Bolton has done pretty well, as has Buchanan.

Bleed Red Blood
23rd April 2006, 03:29 PM
I've liked Richards game a lot.

Hall should be killing Miller more at those throw ins.

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Bleed Red Blood
Hall should be killing Miller more at those throw ins. Hall should be destroying Miller in every aspect of the game. Our poor delivery and inability to provide space are major reasons why he's not.

mpr104
23rd April 2006, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by NMWBloods
Our poor delivery and inability to provide space are major reasons why he's not.

Sums up the season to date. So much effort for such little return.

punter257
23rd April 2006, 03:35 PM
our decision making is shizen and we just need alot of blokes to make a contribution in the 2nd half - too many passengers today

we're falling down across half forward - we need to move it in quicker and give hall, magic, ROK and davis a chance one on one with their opponent and maybe some space to work with

kennelly, bolton, barry and schneider are getting lots of it but we should be using it better

we're crap around the clearances today

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 03:52 PM
Add to many dumb free kicks, not sticking with players etc

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 03:53 PM
Before this game I thought it would be a danger one, I thought so more while watching the early part, and I am now more convinced. The biggest benefit we have is they are 2 players down.

Legs Akimbo
23rd April 2006, 03:55 PM
...and still chambers is yet to get a kick.

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 03:57 PM
Sydney are goneski...and dare I say unless a dramatic form reversal happens will struggle to make the eight

mpr104
23rd April 2006, 03:57 PM
Four weeks into the season and we still look very ordinary.

TheMase
23rd April 2006, 03:59 PM
MARK AND KICK CHAMBERS.. WOOHOO!

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:00 PM
News Flash: Chambers took a mark and got a kick away (direct to a swans player)....he is getting better :D

mpr104
23rd April 2006, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by TheMase
MARK AND KICK CHAMBERS.. WOOHOO!

So far the only highlight.

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:03 PM
Finally the running game comes out..so simple

ROK Lobster
23rd April 2006, 04:03 PM
I like Nick

TheMase
23rd April 2006, 04:05 PM
GO SYDNEY!!!

Malceski doing v well.

Thunder Shaker
23rd April 2006, 04:06 PM
Chambers is running hot ... three possessions in the third quarter

TheMase
23rd April 2006, 04:11 PM
Malceski .. brilliant use of position!

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:11 PM
Davis with hamstring probs :(

Goal to Eski

Thunder Shaker
23rd April 2006, 04:11 PM
But Davis does not look healthy, limping off with a hammy :(

TheMase
23rd April 2006, 04:17 PM
Goodes pick it up FFS, he had time.

Good comeback Sydney, lets hope we can run over them with fit men in the last quarter.

Interesting to note ...

Malceski 8 kicks 5 handballs, 5 marks, 1 goal.

:D

ROK Lobster
23rd April 2006, 04:18 PM
I think Schneids is giving us a fair bit running out of the backline.

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 04:19 PM
I liked Dermie's comment - Nick Davis was running forward and knew what to do with it (he kicked a goal), while Leo Barry running forward got overexcited and gave the ball away.

Hall needs to do something - he's been pretty poor.

mpr104
23rd April 2006, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by ROK Lobster
I think Schneids is giving us a fair bit running out of the backline.

Agreed, Schneids has been very good.

punter257
23rd April 2006, 04:21 PM
who flicked the switch???

big last qtr for us now, we dont wanna be 1-3

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:22 PM
Good fightback in the last half of the third quarter, now just to keep it going

TheMase
23rd April 2006, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by Glenn
Good fightback in the last half of the third quarter, now just to keep it going
Oh god .. why wasn't there someone in the goalsquare!

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:24 PM
Goal to Yze out of nothing...ffs lock up the ball

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:28 PM
Goal to Schneider..1pt lead to Melb

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:29 PM
Now pinged for deliberate OOB FFS
Goal to Jeff White

TheMase
23rd April 2006, 04:31 PM
Originally posted by Glenn
Now pinged for deliberate OOB FFS
Goal to Jeff White
That was a joke of a decision then cleaned up schneider just then, and that ****ed :(

mpr104
23rd April 2006, 04:32 PM
If ever we needed to win some centre clearances, its now.

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:32 PM
Seen worse not pinged for deliberate OOB, 13pts to melb..13mins to go

mpr104
23rd April 2006, 04:33 PM
Great goal to NOG - 7 points down

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:36 PM
Back to 13pts down

ROK Lobster
23rd April 2006, 04:36 PM
Who was that who fell off Robbo?

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:39 PM
Goal to Hall..7pts down abt 9mins left

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:40 PM
Kirk snap misses..1 goal the diff

TheMase
23rd April 2006, 04:43 PM
How can you miss that trip? Unbelivable!

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:44 PM
#$^$@%^ ump misses McVeigh getting legged on the way to goal FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:46 PM
5pt game..6mins left

TheMase
23rd April 2006, 04:47 PM
now THAT was a realistic attempt. This is @@@@ing joke.

Thankfully only a behind.

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:47 PM
Now a free against Leo for a push..how bloody typical of the yellow twats

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:48 PM
Scores are level after a 50 against Melb

That's Justice!!!!!!!!!!!

Thunder Shaker
23rd April 2006, 04:51 PM
Nervous as hell ...

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:52 PM
why wasn't that deliberate oob, in the forward pocket and a Melb player punches for the boundary, compared to the deliberate OOB Sydney got pinged for it was blatant

Thunder Shaker
23rd April 2006, 04:54 PM
Aw, damn ... we've lost this

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:55 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

goal down 39 secs left

TheMase
23rd April 2006, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Glenn
why wasn't that deliberate oob

@@@@ :(

ROK Lobster
23rd April 2006, 04:57 PM
Hmmn...

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 04:57 PM
Lost by 5pts...Eski misses on the run from 30m with time running out

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 04:57 PM
Didn't deserve to win that. Crap performance against a team that has won only 3 games of its last 14 and were 2 players down for most of the game.

Foreign Legion
23rd April 2006, 04:57 PM
@@@@ING Brereton should stop barracking - it is so transparent!

How did the bloody umpire miss the trip on McVeigh? Was he shot from the grassy knoll or did he just fall.

Pathetic.

j0lly
23rd April 2006, 04:58 PM
nice handball ben mathews

ROK Lobster
23rd April 2006, 04:58 PM
We got our fair share of the poor umpiring today. We suck at the moment.

punter257
23rd April 2006, 04:59 PM
@@@@ it could be a long season :(

Thunder Shaker
23rd April 2006, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by NMWBloods
Didn't deserve to win that. Crap performance against a team that ... were 2 players down for most of the game.
Davis. :(

Red
23rd April 2006, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by j0lly
nice handball ben mathews @#$%ing Ben Mathews!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Finally one of his turnovers has cost us a game. Please please please drop him Roos -- it's way past time!

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 05:01 PM
Jeez we have a lot of work to do. People who said we wouldn't make finals this year and we were lucky last year and couldn't repeat it, must be laughing, and justifiably so. Not only are we losing, we are doing it against ordinary sides and playing crap football. Lot of work to be done.

On the plus side, Schneider played one of the best games I have seen him play.

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Foreign Legion
@@@@ING Brereton should stop barracking - it is so transparent!

How did the bloody umpire miss the trip on McVeigh? Was he shot from the grassy knoll or did he just fall.

Pathetic.

Well if it wasn't a trip, must have been shot how else could you explain it.

Bleed Red Blood
23rd April 2006, 05:01 PM
Eski :(

robbieando
23rd April 2006, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by j0lly
nice handball ben mathews

and yet people defend his spot in the team...........

On a brighter note, we as a team played our best match of the season, we got alot of the ball but allowed Melbourne to win via some pretty poor use of the ball going forward and letting Yze, Davey and Robertson do as they liked. A @@@@ poor start to third term didn't help and some umpiring that wasn't paid both ways again cost us dearly. We nearly got lucky and we go away with a loss but today we showed that we are at least nearly hitting form and with Tadhg back in at least we close to 100% team wise.

Good to see McVeigh and Malceski also put in good showings, pity about their last two shots at goal. Ripped off for the first and unlucky for the last. Also good to see Unco get possessions. Hall and Magic need to really pull the finger out and impose themselves on matches more and for the love god - O'KEFEE AND GOODES JUST DO SOMETHING. Agree that Schneider and Buchanan played well. But thats pretty much it. We lost a match we should of won and frankly we are now 1-3 because of some lazy footballers who need to move onto 2006 from 2005, like some of the fans on RWO, who no doubt will defend "their boys who brought them so much joy in September"

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
Davis. :( Yes, they had Neitz, McLean and Johnson off.

TheMase
23rd April 2006, 05:02 PM
Wasteful kicking (O'Keefe) probably cost us as much as anything.

Malceski must stay in now, 18 touches and probably one of our better players. Unlucky on the last kick mate, a lot of pressure on him and hasn't played too many games.

Jarred McVeigh whilst got himself into play a few times, just is a poor decision maker and not big enough for AFL football.

Schneider was pretty good for most part, Kennelly definitely added something to our run and did very well for a bloke who has been injured for the past 7 weeks.

Ablett, useless just a bad decision maker and shocking kick.

O'Keefe, go and learn to kick FFS.

Meh :(

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Red
@#$%ing Ben Mathews!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Finally one of his turnovers has cost us a game. Please please please drop him Roos -- it's way past time! Crap handball, but he made just one mistake for the game and did really well on Jonhstone. We should never have let it get to that point.

Foreign Legion
23rd April 2006, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by ROK Lobster
We got our fair share of the poor umpiring today. We suck at the moment.

We ALWAYS get the raw deal - thats what @@@@s me.

O'Loughlin played the worst game I've seen him play.

Chambers was NOT useless - thank God - if Doyle is injured he'll get a few more weeks to build confidence.

None of our captains did much today but that free against Leo at the end was total crap.

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 05:03 PM
Taking some positives Tiger played well in his first game back :)

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by TheMase
Wasteful kicking (O'Keefe) probably cost us as much as anything.

Malceski must stay in now, 18 touches and probably one of our better players. Unlucky on the last kick mate, a lot of pressure on him and hasn't played too many games.

Jarred McVeigh whilst got himself into play a few times, just is a poor decision maker and not big enough for AFL football.

Schneider was pretty good for most part, Kennelly definitely added something to our run and did very well for a bloke who has been injured for the past 7 weeks.

Ablett, useless just a bad decision maker and shocking kick.

O'Keefe, go and learn to kick FFS.

Meh :( I agree on most of this. O'Keefe's kicking was terrible and in the last minute or so when Hall had all that space and was one-on-one against Miller, O'Keefe kicked it to Miller's side! :mad:

Ablett adds very little. Just throw it on his boot and doesn't think.

McVeigh has lots of skill, but just doesn't seem to able to use it at this level.

Malceski was good. Disappointing miss at the end, but otherwise did well.

Foreign Legion
23rd April 2006, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by NMWBloods
Crap handball, but he made just one mistake for the game and did really well on Jonhstone. We should never have let it get to that point.

Yep, Mathews was good on their best midfielder - he slaughtered Johnstone.

Malceski looks the part - don't drop him for the rest of the year - he's a player.

Schneider did well but playing in the backline will depend upon matchups for him.

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 05:06 PM
Seems with ROK he is rushing the kicks, a couple of times he could have steadied himself but he just turned and kicked and it goes OOB on the full.

Foreign Legion
23rd April 2006, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by Glenn
Taking some positives Tiger played well in his first game back :)

Yep, stepped straight back into it. Not only returning from injury but also his Father's death. He wouldnt have done much over summer thats for sure.

...dare I say it...Chambers can actually palm the ball.

C-Train
23rd April 2006, 05:06 PM
McVeigh's trip was the worst decision the whole game!
The ump was in the perfect spot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice game from Nick! (Only the one error... yup was a big one)

Glenn
23rd April 2006, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Foreign Legion
Yep, stepped straight back into it. Not only returning from injury but also his Father's death. He wouldnt have done much over summer thats for sure.

...dare I say it...Chambers can actually palm the ball.

Very pleasing return to the side for Tiger and can only get better with match fitness.
Chambers actually looked vaguely useful today :eek:

Red
23rd April 2006, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by NMWBloods
Crap handball, but he made just one mistake for the game and did really well on Jonhstone. We should never have let it get to that point. He gets plenty of it, but never kicks it to any Swans' advantage. And ok, it shouldn't have got to that point, but it did. So he gets possession in D50 and hands it straight to them -- costing us a goal and the game. Not bloody good enough.

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by Red
He gets plenty of it, but never kicks it to any Swans' advantage. And ok, it shouldn't have got to that point, but it did. So he gets possession in D50 and hands it straight to them -- costing us a goal and the game. Not bloody good enough. I actually didn't notice him turn the ball over before that. Also, I don't think he actually gave it straight to Johnstone - he handballed it and it was deflected. Yes, it was a poor effort, but it's not like he's the only player to have coughed it up under pressure. This is the hallmark of our game this year.

I'm also a bit sick of the crap excuse that we're 4 weeks behind or whatever. West Coast are currently 4-0, so it has nothing to do with training time. We simply have a very bad premiership hangover. One of the worst in the past 40 years at this stage.

Red
23rd April 2006, 05:15 PM
Originally posted by NMWBloods
Ablett adds very little. Just throw it on his boot and doesn't think.Big time. And slow (of mind and foot) with it.

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 05:18 PM
How crap was O'Loughlin. I can hardly recall even sighting him.

J Bolton and Kirk really need to lift their games. Just very average midfielders at the moment.

ROK Lobster
23rd April 2006, 05:19 PM
Why, when the camera pans out, is LRT always 20m on his own?

I thought Chambers showed a bit more today, though perhaps it is better if the free kick in the Matthews(?) is not mentioned.

Foreign Legion
23rd April 2006, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by NMWBloods
How crap was O'Loughlin. I can hardly recall even sighting him.

J Bolton and Kirk really need to lift their games. Just very average midfielders at the moment.

Yeah, as I said before - worst game Mick has played and even his goal just snuck in.

Kirk has been ordinary - he started well but faded. Bolton I though was Ok, didnt star but is more visible than Kirky.

Crouch is another who is well below his best. Craig Bolton is becoming our most consistent player and hardly makes a mistake.

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by Foreign Legion
Bolton I though was Ok, didnt star but is more visible than Kirky. Bolton had only 4 possessions to half time and was getting totally towelled up by McLean until he went off injured. Bolton was quite good in the last quarter getting a few centre breaks, but it was a case of too little too late.

Red
23rd April 2006, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by NMWBloods
Bolton and Kirk really need to lift their games. Just very average midfielders at the moment. All our midfielders are.

They're shutdown and hardball-get specialists. When Willo is out our skill-level goes down about 50%. Clean possession is a rarity right now -- esp. at clearances. And when we do get it, it's run-handball-run-handball-kick inside 50-turnover.

I'm so pissed-off atm. We so needed to win that one, and should've with all their injuries.

And now it's Geelong, a realy good team with so much motivation to kick our arse it's ridiculous. So we'll probably be 1-4 and staring right down the barrell.

@#$%:mad: !!

swans_premiers
23rd April 2006, 05:31 PM
Haven't seen any mention of Buchanan..thought it was one of his best games.

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 05:36 PM
Yeah, I thought Buchanan was very good.

For our best I would put:

C Bolton, Schneider, Buchanan

Perhaps include Jolly, Malceski and Kennelly if you wanted to increase numbers.

ROK Lobster
23rd April 2006, 05:36 PM
As Red said - that was a very ordinary loss. Against a side playing poorly, who lost 2 of their best before 1/2 time, and then another good player shortly after, at home, with close to our best 22 on the paddock. To make a run late in the 3rd term and not continue over he top of them is very disappointing.

Much as I have maligned him of late, Crouch was ok.
Where is Kirk?
Goodes is goin ok but needs to take a game by the scruff of the neck now and again.

stellation
23rd April 2006, 06:00 PM
Nick did his hamstring on his 1 billionth ignored lead for the match.

NTH DENI SWAN
23rd April 2006, 06:05 PM
Nothing to worry about can still win the important games later on we left perth 2 and 4 last year chambers will be ok

stellation
23rd April 2006, 06:10 PM
Out of interest, Davis was up and walking without appearing to have too much discomfort at the end of the game.

ROK Lobster
23rd April 2006, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by stellation
Out of interest, Davis was up and walking without too much discomfort at the end of the game. He was faking it just to get some attention.

NTH DENI SWAN
23rd April 2006, 06:26 PM
you cant pick where your parents live ask leo barry

liz
23rd April 2006, 06:36 PM
You get a different sense of the better players watching it live - I guess you miss some of the close in stuff. Overall I thought it was an evenly ordinary performance right across the board.

However, in those odd passages when they cleared it quickly from defence and ran it right through the middle, Crouch seemed particularly prominant. Thought it was clearly his best game yet this year.

Other than that, quite liked the Schneiderman's game, capped off by that great chase near the end.

Goodes was one player who never stopped working, even if much of it came to little.

Monty was possibly more OK than most of them.

Malceski didn't star but certainly showed enough to suggest he can become a good player. Certainly should be persisted with.

Davis didn't touch the ball a whole lot but when he did he looked very classy. His long kick to Richards at the end of the first quarter was maybe the best kick by a Swan during the game... except maybe for the goal he kicked. A contender for goal of the round maybe?

giant
23rd April 2006, 06:50 PM
Personally I'm not too disappointed. That was the best game we've played this year - ok, there's not much competition but it was 300% on the Port game.

Could have gone either way & frankly we've probably done all right on the close game front in recent times.

The Dees aren't that bad a side either - they well may still make the 8 if Neitz stays fit.

I take a little bit of heart from this - great to see Taidhg back, great game from Malceskis until the 30th min of the 4th qr, good effort from Schneider on Davey. We'll get better yet, don't despair.

Mike_B
23rd April 2006, 07:03 PM
Some positives there:
- We found some intensity at times and looked pretty decent when we were harder at it, but other parts of the game we were just so flat. John Longmire made this observation at the AM. You just can't afford to have your concentration and intensity ebb and flow as often as ours is at the moment.
- Our ball handling was a bit cleaner than it has been for the first few weeks - less fumbling trying to pick up the loose ball.
- Good to see Chambers do a little around the ground - will be a confidence booster. His palm down to McVeigh in the last quarter (the play where he was tripped) was Ball-esque from last year.
- Kennelly coming back. Not only does he give us run out of the backline and generally uses the ball well, but it was noticeable how much talking he does, how much directing other players out on the field.

Negatives:
- Let Pickett in particular roam free and wide. It seemed like most of his possessions came 30m in the clear. But that was symptomatic of our drops in intensity, not just slow of foot, but slow of mind and not reading the game so we were second to the ball.
- Delivery to the forward line. People have said Hall and MOL had poor games. Quite frankly, there was nothing they could do with the ball coming in the way it did. How many times was the ball kicked to Hall where he was either already in a 1-2/1-3 contest, or if not, playing body on body with Miller allowing another defender to zone off and spoil as 3rd man in the contest?
- Decision making in general - just slow and hesitant. Need to find some confidence to play more on instincts.
- Davis' injury. Although Longmire didn't know too many details, he said he thinks it was the same one Davis injured last year to keep him out for a few weeks.

The premiership credits have expired and the axe needs to be sharpened, if nothing else but to set an example that living on glories of 2005 will not be tolerated. Its now a month into 2006 and it's time to play at the standard expected, or go back to the magoos.

stellation
23rd April 2006, 07:08 PM
Originally posted by Mike_B

Negatives:

- Delivery to the forward line. People have said Hall and MOL had poor games. Quite frankly, there was nothing they could do with the ball coming in the way it did. How many times was the ball kicked to Hall where he was either already in a 1-2/1-3 contest, or if not, playing body on body with Miller allowing another defender to zone off and spoil as 3rd man in the contest?
ARRRGGHGHGHGHGH!!! I swear Davis had a lead on for them that was ignored everytime they went to Hall..... ARGGGGH......... what is the point of having a star filled forward line when the midfielders only ever look for one star?

liz
23rd April 2006, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Mike_B

The premiership credits have expired and the axe needs to be sharpened, if nothing else but to set an example that living on glories of 2005 will not be tolerated. Its now a month into 2006 and it's time to play at the standard expected, or go back to the magoos.

All very well, but the only player in the twos today who looks like they'd add anything, based on today's performance, was Vogels. It's the run through the middle that's mostly missing, and Vogels ain't going to do anything to fix that.

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by stellation
Nick did his hamstring on his 1 billionth ignored lead for the match. I liked it when I heard he told Hall off for ignoring him when Davis had a mismatch against Whelan. Of course they continued to ignore him anyway! F-wits!

gossipcom
23rd April 2006, 07:25 PM
Did Moore survive the Ressies or was he injured? Maybe it's a time to bring him or Dempster back into the mix, assuming Willo will be back next week to hopefully help out in part of that prob.

I thought Chambers did some good stuff today, just needs to get his confidence level up. Very impressed by Ted Richards though, thought this was his best match playing in his preferred position up the ground.

Glad to see Tadgh back though.

But all in all, still a very disappointing effort across the board.

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by giant
Personally I'm not too disappointed. That was the best game we've played this year - ok, there's not much competition but it was 300% on the Port game. Jeez - faint praise indeed.


Could have gone either way & frankly we've probably done all right on the close game front in recent times. It should never have been that close.


The Dees aren't that bad a side either - they well may still make the 8 if Neitz stays fit. They've won 3 of their last 14 games - hardly a good side.


We'll get better yet, don't despair. I have no doubt, but it depends on how much and when.

Snowy
23rd April 2006, 08:05 PM
Originally posted by NMWBloods
I liked it when I heard he told Hall off for ignoring him when Davis had a mismatch against Whelan. Of course they continued to ignore him anyway! F-wits!

Actually the views of the radio commentators (it was covered by two stations), was that the players were too Hall conscious and that Miller had him covered anyway. They believe the players have to looks for other options as Hall cannot continue to kick winning scores on his own.

Ryan Bomford
23rd April 2006, 08:11 PM
Not how I saw it (at the game). It seemed we tried to kick to Barry when he was doubled teamed (1st half) and ignored him too many times in the 2nd half wnen he was one on one with Miller. When they did kick it to him it was seldom to Barry's advantage or just plain off line.

Xie Shan
23rd April 2006, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by NMWBloods
Jeez - faint praise indeed.

I thought so. Today and the Port game are the only games I've been able to watch this year. They still aren't playing well, but it was an improvement.

Bas
23rd April 2006, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by gossipcom
Did Moore survive the Ressies or was he injured?



He was standing near me during half time in the Brewongle stand and he had a light bandage on his left wrist. It didn't look too serious as he didn't appear to be favouring it at all.

Bas
23rd April 2006, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by ROK Lobster
He was faking it just to get some attention.

Still trying to find a lead.....

cruiser
23rd April 2006, 10:57 PM
ARRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

What else is there to say. I spent the long drive home wondering what I'd say on here but I know that once I start I'll be off tearing strips off them. But I will mention LRT - totally ****ing useless. Probably BOG for the Demons, such was his ability to give them the ball. Its like April 2005 all over again. And where's O'Keefe, and what's Kirk doing, and did MOL get a touch. Hall too busy playing captain - he spends too much time marshalling other players and doesnt give enough leads. Our ruck is completely ****ed. etc etc.....

Has any team ever gone from a premiership to a wooden spoon in just one season? This is SO DISAPPOINTING. :mad: :frown


Mod edit: understandable use of expletives, but please don't avoid the swear filter quite so blatantly

Old Royboy
23rd April 2006, 11:18 PM
With normal luck we would have won today.. That deliberate OOB not called with about 90 secs to go was one of the poorest umpiring non decisions I have seen in a long time. Yse?s goal off the ground came straight out of his backside. But ultimately bad play, bad decision making, shocking kicking for goal and lack of desperation when it counted lost the game.

Put things into perspective ? we were playing an ordinary team who had virtually no interchange in the last quarter and should have run over the top of them.

This year feels like the last four at the same stage ? as usual we have started the season playing like dogs droppings. I?ll wait another four weeks before slashing my wrists, but the big worry for me is poor player attitude.

robamiee
23rd April 2006, 11:34 PM
I dont think the SCG is going to the great home ground advantage for us anymore with our style of play.
With oppostion teams just flat out flooding or even more so strangling our forward line at the SCG, i think it will be hard road ahead, unless we get it in there quick.Which we are not renowned for, yet have the capability of any of the best teams in the comp to do so.
When you look at the 2 games in Melbourne. Aside from the 1st qtr against the dons (which was a free kick feast for the dons) we out played the bombers for the rest of the match.
1st qtr and a half against the blues mucht he same again.

I think next week on the much larger telstra stadium it will gives us more room to play our better footy, and maybe help us get back into much needed form. But new tactics are needed.

Ablett impresses me often with his long kicks, as does Davis and Okeefe, maybe the rest should follow their leads.

I must say Chambers did have a much better game after his first touch. He seemed a man possesed that maybe believed in himself. Maybe a sleeping giant in the waiting only time will tell, but he did ruck much better after those couple of touches.

Malceski could be a geniune player in future and worth mnore time and experience on the field.

What ahs happened to Spriggs? i think maybe he could be a midfielder to provide some explosiveness in the middle...maybe not, but who knows.

NMWBloods
23rd April 2006, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by robamiee
I dont think the SCG is going to the great home ground advantage for us anymore with our style of play. I thought much the same thing watching today. Then again, I don't think any ground suits our current style of play.


Ablett impresses me often with his long kicks, as does Davis and Okeefe, maybe the rest should follow their leads.
Ablett is a terrible kick - long but wayward. O'Keefe also kicks long but generally wayward.

Davis kicks long but hits a target. Malceski can do the same.

I can't think of anyone else in our side that can hit a target regularly over 40m.

Ryan Bomford
24th April 2006, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by Old Royboy
But ultimately bad play, bad decision making, shocking kicking for goal and lack of desperation when it counted lost the game.

Put things into perspective ? we were playing an ordinary team who had virtually no interchange in the last quarter and should have run over the top of them.


That just about sums it up for me as well.

The Big Cat
24th April 2006, 12:37 AM
I feel gutted too. But then again I always do, and have after every loss for fifty years! This time, last year, we were two and two. Win the next two and we are in better shape that 05! (wishful thinking??) I thought we were getting closer to our game. I'm not sure losing Neitz was a big deal as their forward line looked sharper and more open. Thought Shneider was great and contrary to what I've read here, I thought LRT was reasonable. But surely if there's 3 blokes on BBBH then someone else has to be free. Two big errors cost us dearly (can't blame Esky, he's a kid) Had Deadly Tedley kicked that goal after the siren in the first quarter we probably win. Goodesy not picking up the ball in the goal square was either showboating or bad communication from team mates. Read on the website that Doyley is having scanns on his hammy after limping off!

smasher
24th April 2006, 07:15 AM
A lot of players drifted in and out of the game.We were blessed that McLean went down as he was dominating the midfield.The midfield,IMO,is an area we are lacking.We don't have an "in and under' player who can keep the ball in legally or get it out quickly.I heard Moore was not playing as there were injury queries on a couple of senior players and he was emergency.He always wears a band around his wrist when playing.
Good to see Malceski get plenty of game time and he should be perservered with..his skills are good and he only had one bad kick.He has been very patient,been at the club since 2002 draft, worked hard post knee reco in 2004 so I see him as a positive.
We only lost by one point and while it hurts it wasn't a shalaking.I heard Doc Larkin say that Davis has re-injured an old hamstring problem and would be missing for 2-3 weeks.
A few of our so called "better" players need to have a good look at themselves this week as they are not earning their lofty pay packets

stellation
24th April 2006, 09:11 AM
I didn't mention it earlier, and it is a little harsh because I thought that he was quite good yesterday, but Crouch had the play that summed up the Sydney Swans up to Round 4 2006. Forgive me if this isn't exactly how it went but...

Nick Davis works his way into the game just when we really need it and kicks a thumping, brilliant, team and crowd lifting goal. We win the next centre clearance, Crouch sprints through the middle and has Davis on a great, EASY TO HIT EVEN FOR OUR @@@@ING USELESS FORWARD DELIVERY MIDFIELDERS lead directly in front of him (Davis has worked hard and made a big gap from his opponent, a half decent pass sees him kicking from 40 straight in front) and Crouch... ignores the lead, goes for a thumping goal from the centre square and sprays it for a behind.

If Crouch gives that up to Davis, Davis (more than likely) kicks it and has 2 in 1 minute- different game.

BarneyG
24th April 2006, 09:24 AM
Just my two cents worth.......
The ball went into the forward 50 enough times for us to convert a big score, we didnt because off one main culprit O'keefe, stats showed that he 8 clangers and 5 free kicks but didnt use them effectively.

Legs Akimbo
24th April 2006, 09:47 AM
O'Keefe has to be sent to the magoos until he sorts his kicking out. It is painful to watch a guy who gets so much of the ball doing so much damage to his own team.

Moore has to be bought in because we are getting flogged in the centre clearances. There are currently too many defensive midfielders (i.e. watching their man ready to lay a tackle rather than watching the ball) and not enough ballwinners.

Bear
24th April 2006, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by robamiee
I dont think the SCG is going to the great home ground advantage for us anymore with our style of play.
With oppostion teams just flat out flooding or even more so strangling our forward line at the SCG, i think it will be hard road ahead, unless we get it in there quick.Which we are not renowned for, yet have the capability of any of the best teams in the comp to do so.

I think next week on the much larger telstra stadium it will gives us more room to play our better footy, and maybe help us get back into much needed form. But new tactics are needed.


Agree totally. I live much nearer to the SCG, but I am looking forward to going to Telstra Stadium next weekend to see us play a much more sustainable brand of football.

It is far too easy for teams to flood on the SCG which makes it hard going to score goals with our style of uncontested football. Every other team knows now that you simply flood the Swans and we play anything but direct football.

Hell, they don't even bother to put anyone on the mark now!!!!!!!!

katie-scarlett
24th April 2006, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by Legs Akimbo
O'Keefe has to be sent to the magoos until he sorts his kicking out.

Speaking of bad kicking, I was expecting to see a new LRT whipping thread by now..