Match Thread R15: Crows vs. Swans

[stellation]

First goal kicker? I'm going to go with J. McVeigh

[stellation]

I'm pretty excited about this game, stating the obvious but it's a big test for our season.

[stellation]

Do we even say Match Thread? I rarely post during matches, oh I'm such a muddle head!

[Bas]

I hope we don't need to call the F.A.R.K Academy for help.

Craig is gone if they lose tonight as are our top 8 hopes if we lose.

[Cheer Squad]

C'mon Swannies! Let's make it two in a row against the Crows on their own patch!

[ugg]

Do we even say Match Thread? I rarely post during matches, oh I'm such a muddle head!
Gameday thread. NARF!

I'm going with Rodney Dangerfield first goal

[Rod_]

Jesse White for me - first goal.
Seaby 32 taps
Goodesy 4 goals

Swans by 21 points

Early call...

Rod_

[ScottH]

Benny for 1st goal for me.

[ugg]

Ooh, more unexpected injuries?

Adelaide v Sydney Swans at AAMI Stadium, 7.10pm
LATE CHANGES
Adelaide: Nil
Sydney Swans: Nick Smith replaced in selected side by Andrejs Everitt

FINAL INTERCHANGES
Adelaide: Brad Moran, Brent Reilly, Jared Petrenko
Substitute: Richard Tambling
Sydney Swans: Luke Parker, Lewis Jetta, Alex Johnson
Substitute: Andrejs Everitt

[Triple B]

Ouch, that is not good.

[ugg]

hmmmm must have been a late out, given they only took 1 emergency over to Adelaide

[nomae]

Why does Everitt keep getting a game?

[stellation]

Gameday thread. NARF!

I'm going with Rodney Dangerfield first goal

I have an image of a buggy eyed man being thrown the ball after a hands in the back and saying to a teammate "Take my kick.... please!"

[erica]

From Swans FaceBook:
John Longmire speaks to MMM footy around an hour out until the first bounce here at AAMI stadium. It's been a wet and dreary day here in Adelaide today. Some light rain is still falling. Nick Smith is a late withdrawal with hamstring tightness and has been replaced by Andrejs Everitt who will wear the sub vest.

[Jeffers1984]

Everitt Sub? The way he has been playing in the sub role we might as well just use the 3 currently on the bench and forget about Everitt.

[neilfws]

From Swans FaceBook:
It's been a wet and dreary day here in Adelaide today

Facebook and Twitter feeds both say "wet and slippery conditions for the game." Should make things interesting. Smith is a big out; hopefully the team can cover it.

[stellation]

Everitt Sub? The way he has been playing in the sub role we might as well just use the 3 currently on the bench and forget about Everitt.

If he comes in then just give him a whole bloody game, the sub thing isn't working out for him.

[Triple B]

Night games in Adelaide are wet and slippery normally, due to the heavy due which inevitably settles at West Lakes. Situation normal then.

Smith a loss, but he probably wouldn't have had an as vital shutdown role tonight anyway.

[GongSwan]

I'm backing LRT to go forward to take Rutten out of the game and kick a bag by accident

[Xie Shan]

Do we even say Match Thread? I rarely post during matches, oh I'm such a muddle head!

Me too, I'm usually too focused on watching the game to worry about posting as well...

[Frog]

Bolton for first goal for mine.

[Untamed Snark]

The big question is; Do I drink red, white or rose?

And first goal to Jesse

[Bas]

The big question is; Do I drink red, white or rose?


Get into the Cherry Advokat with lemonade !!!!

[Doctor]

Why does Everitt keep getting a game?

Maybe he has Qantas Lounge privileges and always gets Horse in as his guest.

[Doctor]

The big question is; Do I drink red, white or rose?

And first goal to Jesse

I like how you distinguish rose from either red or white! FWIW, I'm on the shiraz right now.

First goal to Tippett. First Swans goal to McGlynn.

[Untamed Snark]

Get into the Cherry Advokat with lemonade !!!!

Fresh out of advokat, I have gin though.

[Bas]

Apparently pouring rain at AAMI according to SEN

[Bas]

They are saying a few rips in the Swans banner and going to pulp before their eyes.

That's all we need is rain.

[Untamed Snark]

I like how you distinguish rose from either red or white! FWIW, I'm on the shiraz right now.

First goal to Tippett. First Swans goal to McGlynn.

These things need to be done properly.
Kiwi pinot it is

[CJK]

2 pint bottles of Little Creatures and a bottle of Spanish tempranillo/shiraz blend.

#goswans

[Bas]

Amusing scenes with the Swans going through a very wet mangled banner.

[Untamed Snark]

Finally coverage starts, come on boys.

[BSA5]

Will be enjoying a bottle of Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and Skull Splitter Scotch Ale.

Stuck in a god damn pizza shop, hope I make it back for the bounce.

White first goal, then nothing else all night.

[Jeffers1984]

With Agent Smith out does that mean Bevan will have to play back? God help us if this happens.

[Melbournehammer]

Hard to think of a worse set of conditions for this game. I was hoping we might leap out of the blocks and have them try and hide over there. But this will be a 40-60 points game - and it's hard to see us getting that sort of start.

[Melbournehammer]

Look very tall down back with lrt, Ted and Grundy all back there

[Melbournehammer]

Depressing.

[ugg]

Pouring and we have too many talls for the conditions

[Doctor]

First goal to Tippett. First Swans goal to McGlynn.

Hmmmm, that's one to me.

I'm officially worried btw. The rain is really heavy, and we've been poor in the wet this year.

[Doctor]

Pouring and we have too many talls for the conditions

Agreed.

[Melbournehammer]

Goodes don't dink hand passes just kick it to the square. Too too pretty

[Untamed Snark]

Nice work Jetta

[Doctor]

A victory for long sleeves too. Always good to see them getting a run. Jets looming as very important for us.

[Bloody Hell]

Ooh, more unexpected injuries?

Adelaide v Sydney Swans at AAMI Stadium, 7.10pm
LATE CHANGES
Adelaide: Nil
Sydney Swans: Nick Smith replaced in selected side by Andrejs Everitt

FINAL INTERCHANGES
Adelaide: Brad Moran, Brent Reilly, Jared Petrenko
Substitute: Richard Tambling
Sydney Swans: Luke Parker, Lewis Jetta, Alex Johnson
Substitute: Andrejs Everitt

Noooo!

Wonder who that saved from the dreaded sub position?

[ugg]

Aj looks like he's playing forward or at least not in defence

[Jeffers1984]

Nice work goodes!

[Untamed Snark]

A victory for long sleeves too. Always good to see them getting a run. Jets looming as very important for us.

He can frustrate me no end but when he is confident he can be brilliant.

[Jeffers1984]

Birdy! great work from PArker!!

[Doctor]

Gees Goodes played Ruttan well for the second. Great fake out from Col. Tom Parker there too!

[Untamed Snark]

Seabs is everywhere. It will be interesting when Mummy is back next week

[Jeffers1984]

McInerny showing how incompetent he is as an umpire.

[Doctor]

That ruck rule that caught Jesse out is a dud rule. Tough break on Shaw there - Dunstall having a huge go at the Crow player for acting.

[Melbournehammer]

Gee whiz were struggling to get the ball past half forward

[Jeffers1984]

If i could have a shot for every time ROK fumbles when he receives posession, i'd be in hospital. Frustrating how his fumbles cause a split second delay to kill our leads.

[Doctor]

Q1 - We looked very dangerous when we got it down their end (as it were) but it just didn't happen often enough. Parker looks to handle the wet brilliantly and Macca looked pretty good too. Johncock having too much influence at CHB for Adelaide atm.

[wolftone57]

The weather is terrible! We are not handling it too well. The Crows have been training in it all week so they have the advantage. Bloody awful conditions for footy. Won't be too many great moments tonight. Must say though Maca's pick up was a gem & Jetts has been pretty good

[bennyfabulous]

Bevo held, what are the umpires watching?

[Untamed Snark]

Nice goal for Ryan

[Doctor]

We needed more than a goal for that period of dominance. How well is Jude going??!!!

[Jeffers1984]

that was @@@@ing comical.

[Donners]

I was just about to ask whether White was out there at all. Now I wish he wasn't.

[Untamed Snark]

Nice to hear the commentators talking up Jude

[Damien]

White's never going to be more than a very average player. Just not smart enough in key moment, either with his body or foot.

[Untamed Snark]

Nice clear chant from the Swans supporters down there

[Melbournehammer]

Just tell them all to kick it long enough with the handballs backwards

[Melbournehammer]

It's the sort of game where because no one can string three passes together that the side that keeps it in their forward half the longest will probably win

[Jeffers1984]

we are simply dumb dumb dumb in the wet.

[Melbournehammer]

Dwayne Russell is ceaselessly barracking for the crows too.

Bloody annoying commentator.

[Doctor]

Reid made a complete mess of that last play of the half.

[Swans500]

Swans have a look about them that they simply EXPECT to win this one....

[ugg]

How many times has a little fumble just caused us to rush it? Just need to be cleaner and we'd win this easily. Adelaide only has three specialist forwards playing Tippett Dangerfield and Callinan

[Foreign Legion]

Dwayne Russell is ceaselessly barracking for the crows too.

Bloody annoying commentator.


Spot on.

Still, we are in front and possibly have a more threatening fwd line.

Ess beating Geel by 35 points!:confused:

[wolftone57]

We are terrible in the wet. Bloody Handball, who told these blokes it was a good option on a wet day, kick the @@@@@@ out of the ball & for goodness sake look to set up a bit more from the kick outs the big bomb isn't workin, nor is it working into the forwardline. Adam Goodes tries to finess too much & probably cost us a goal. White is a waste of space out there. Not the night for big guys but terrible, that kick that caused a goal*******. Parker has been good, suited to this, very much like Jude who is having a field day. Benny is falling over before the ball even arrives. Benny should be suited here. Bevo has tried hard, backs were good but the mids & forwards are allowing too many Crows to get free.

[Big Al]

As soon as I heard it was raining I became worried. We just do not seem to know how to play the percentages in the wet.

[annew]

I wish Reid would not always kick for goal he is not that accurate and at times there are better options.

[CJK]

Sam and Jessie not giving us much. Cold comfort that half their goals have come from frees.

Someone needs to tell the Fox Sports people that not only do they have subscribers in NSW (the most on a per state basis), but also that the game is being on broadcasted into NSW on Ten. As such the constant 'what the Crows need to do to win' stuff is really annoying.

[wolftone57]

We need to be careful of that litlle bastard Callinan, I remember him paying for Central District, he will nevere give up & very clever. He can also be a dirty little bugger too but after all he comes from Elizabeth bloody rough there.

[Xie Shan]

I'm worried because it's following the pattern of our previous two games in the wet this year (Geelong and Carlton) after a promising start. The Crows are not in that league, but whenever we don't get maximum reward for our efforts it lets the opposition in, and whenever you do that it's asking for trouble... I think it just confirms what we know already about our forward line structure, despite the enormous improvement we have shown in other areas, it is going to be hard for us to be a contender until we find a way to kick more goals...

[annew]

Why do we go in tall when the weather is wet with all the money put into football clubs surely they know what the weather is going to be

[Doctor]

At least half time is giving me a chance to watch some of the other game. Bombers up by miles. Cats kick 4 or 5 in 5 minutes to get within 6 and then 2 quick ones to the Bombers to pull them clear again. Anyway, back to the Adelaide Oval where two more quarters of frustration await...

[Melbournehammer]

Lrt is getting smashed in this game

[annew]

Umpiring is crap Adelaide is ducking and we gut pinged for too high

[Untamed Snark]

@@@@
Can we organise the Swans to train when the sprinklers are on at the SCG?

[Melbournehammer]

It's time to really tell goodes to look at how Adelaide are willing to kick to top of square and get something from the umpires if we are lucky instead of finessing the ball the perfect handball

[Doctor]

Grundy up forward! That's old skool.

[Bas]

Reid has had 4 possessions so far in the game.

Crows to hit the lead.

[Melbournehammer]

How could you possibly pay that. All game the ball has been coming out from players dropping the ball and then you pay that

[CJK]

Those that think The Mick still has something to offer will have tough job this week

[Melbournehammer]

FFS it's time to get something from the coaches box now or a very winnable game will have been thrown away

[bennyfabulous]

Thats too blatant umpiring mistakes that have resulted in goals. FFS any chance of a fair game?

[Untamed Snark]

Thats too blatant umpiring mistakes that have resulted in goals. FFS any chance of a fair game?

Nope

[Bas]

Jude's lucky not to have broken his arm.

Hanner's continues his post Rising Star flop year.

[Melbournehammer]

Hanners just kick within your limitations

[Bas]

Apparently someone has bet a million dollars to win 90K on Geelong. Bombers up by 15 points mid last qtr.

Crows have far more intensity and determination compared to the Swans.

[Doctor]

Those that think The Mick still has something to offer will have tough job this week

To be fair, Kennelly was a bit stiff with that call. I didn't see a lot of opportunity. I actually thought he did well to track back on his man the way he did.

[JudesaGun]

Apparently someone has bet a million dollars to win 90K on Geelong. Bombers up by 15 points mid last qtr.

Crows have far more intensity and determination compared to the Swans.

Why ruin the Ess-Cats score mate? It's delayed here in Melbourne and I don't come on here to have the live score revealed.

[Bas]

Bird looks like a bad injury.

[Doctor]

We're gonna reel this deficit in in behinds aren't we...

[Untamed Snark]

Not Birdy!
I'm come to the conclusion that Jude is indestructible

[Bas]

Why ruin the Ess-Cats score mate? It's delayed here in Melbourne and I don't come on here to have the live score revealed.

What are you on about? According to the TV programme it's on live there.

Excuse me for not reading your mind. :rolleyes:

[Jeffers1984]

we are @@@@ing pathetic.

[Melbournehammer]

we are @@@@ing pathetic.

Simply not true. But we are a side which relies on too many dinky stuff to get goals. The pressure is great but we need to put these guys away and the conditions simply have not been the sort which allows that

[Red]

I doubt Bird will return.

And we've got Evers@#t to replace him. Greaaaaat :mad:

[Swans500]

I said it earlier...our guys went in to this expecting an automatic win...and that attitude shows and now the panic starts....idiots...

[Cheer_Cheer]

Not Birdy!
I'm come to the conclusion that Jude is indestructible

Don't say that...

[wolftone57]

I was under the impression that a runner infringement was an automatic 50 metre penalty, we lost a game because of one earlier in the season.

[wolftone57]

We got no 50 for that last one

[Melbournehammer]

I doubt Bird will return.

And we've got Ever@@@@@ to replace him. Greaaaaat :mad:

Let's just see how he goes before we bag him hey ? But you should be mad about the coaching panel not having a runner on the plane particularly if they knew smith was a chance to miss

[bennyfabulous]

we are @@@@ing pathetic.

+1

[annew]

I doubt Bird will return.

And we've got Evers@#t to replace him. Greaaaaat :mad:
Personally I don't think Bird is much of a player anyway so who cares whether he comes back on.

[Melbournehammer]

I doubt Bird will return.

And we've got Ever@@@@@ to replace him. Greaaaaat :mad:

Let's just see how he goes before we bag him hey ? But you should be mad about the coaching panel not having a runner on the plane particularly if they knew smith was a chance to miss

[Lucky Knickers]

Better effort then. We need to start final qtr as we finished the 3rd.
Cmon Swans! You can do it.

[ugg]

Need some composure up forward. Not helping that Benny Mac is looking out of sorts

[JudesaGun]

What are you on about? According to the TV programme it's on live there.

Excuse me for not reading your mind. :rolleyes:

In Melbourne?

It's got nothing to do with reading my mind, it's common sense.

[wolftone57]

We have no-one who can manufacture a goal in the wet, we have had the ball in our forward 50 75% of the quarter & couldn't score a goal. Now Ugg you tell me that we don't need someone like TDL who at least can kick 'em no matter what. This has been a lamentable performance. Our forwards are pathetic, including Goodes who wants to do all the dinky things instead of just kicking the hell out of it or p Forget the dinky handball!!!laying direct footy.

[Untamed Snark]

Don't say that...

I thought that as I posted

[annew]

You cannot beat bloody cheating umpires

[Melbournehammer]

Just shockingly one sided umpiring just outrageous the way this is being umpired

[Jeffers1984]

Bevan you selfish hack.

[Melbournehammer]

Thank god we've got a free in this game

[Red]

Let's just see how he goes before we bag him hey ? But you should be mad about the coaching panel not having a runner on the plane particularly if they knew smith was a chance to miss
I hope I'm wrong, I'd be happy to retract.

Fair call re. the lack of a spare runner.

[Untamed Snark]

You cannot beat bloody cheating umpires

The correct term is dumpires

[Melbournehammer]

I reckon it's seven to one frees in this quarter

[annew]

We are so bad

[Melbournehammer]

Bevan you just have to belt the ball through just get in front and give them a point

[Donners]

It's not the umpires' fault that O'Keefe missed a sitter or Kennelly was left for dead in defence.

[Melbournehammer]

Tadgh just a weak effort. He really is playing seriously poor footy at the moment

[bennyfabulous]

pick the @@@@ing ball up everitt, you waste of a sub.

[Jeffers1984]

It's not the umpires' fault that O'Keefe missed a sitter or Kennelly was left for dead in defence.

exactly.

[Untamed Snark]

At least the crows are slapping themselves for letting Marty go

[Melbournehammer]

God could we kick a goal

[Albert Park]

We are so bad

everyone beats Adelaide and Neil Craig
But wThe Swans manage to muck it up
Lets tank like west coast and come bnack with a real team
If we know we are doing that it wont be so bad

[CJK]

If we miss this.....

[CJK]

Bevo!

[Untamed Snark]

Bevo!

[Bas]

In Melbourne?

It's got nothing to do with reading my mind, it's common sense.

Well I'm not common but someone has lost some money tonight. :p

[Albert Park]

yes but why arent we six goals up like everyone else who plays the Aeliade losers?

[Melbournehammer]

Bevan just needed to kick the bloody thing fifty metres and he misses the frigging ball

[CJK]

Well that is that, another poor performance.

[Donners]

Ugh, it's gone. :(

[Untamed Snark]

Lucky the crows kick ad badly as we do

[AnnieH]

All over red rover.

Very disappointing

[Jeffers1984]

unforgivable.

[bennyfabulous]

3 ridiculous umpire goals, so effectively we win by a goal. WOO HOO

[Bas]

yes but why arent we six goals up like everyone else who plays the Aeliade losers?

Because we're not a six goal better team.

The Crows are 2 goals better than us.

The better team on the night has won and it's great that Sydney has saved Neil Craig from the axe for at least another week. We have quite a history over the last 10 years in doing that.

[Cheer_Cheer]

Pathetic...

[Big Al]

Pathetic and disgraceful. This has put a big brake on this season. We are so dumb when it comes to wet weather football.

[CJK]

How embarrassing.

[bennyfabulous]

Agreed pathetic.

[sfan]

poor effort, poor coaching - no idea how to play wet weather football - another inept display - i wish we had got a new coach at the start of the season with new ideas. still trying to play 2005 football.

[Albert Park]

Face it . When you're beaten by losers we are worse than losers
What a travesty
Tank now and rebuild for 2015

[Mel]

Yuk. What an awful game. Not at all happy with the boys tonight. Adelaide were far more aggressive and deserved to win, despite dodgey umpiring decisions. They were better than us tonight.

[Melbournehammer]

Well we are stuffed now but seriously the umpiring has just been unbelievably bad.

I am so angry about this game. We have completely thrown this game away but the umpiring has been so hometown that if we don't get ridiculously get home town umpiring in the home games here there is something wrong

But long mire and the match committee need to start a look at themselves and the side they selected for this game. I am beyond angry because this was a game which we should simply have won.

6.14 another pisspoor kicking at goal effort. What a waste. This puts us right back int the ruck and because Of some stupid

And seaby completely dominated in the ruck but we still couldn't make the most of it.

[stellation]

Well that sucked.

[Untamed Snark]

Did the commentator just say the Swans were their own worst enimas? (excuse spelling)

[legaff]

The psyche of our team is unstable... we are prone to both greatness and absolute trash like tonight. I've changed my mind, I think we should pursue Brendan Fevola for next season... he would fit right in.

[Swans500]

Embarrassing...appalling....the expectations they were so sure of has made a fool of themselves. Worst loss of the year, and we have to surely now all agree that we DO NOT HAVE A FORWARD LINE!!!!! And there is not one in sight....had enough of this mob...

[Cheer_Cheer]

I reckon TDL would have been the perfect forward in these conditions.. Oh well..

[Cpt. Kirk]

Well that sucked.

Anyone wanna buy a melbourne based membership, Bring in everitt instead of johnston as the travelling emergency just a ridiculous decision considering both there efforts last week.
It was only a matter of time before our @@@@ kicking made us lose to a @@@@ team, nearly happened against richmond.

[Melbournehammer]

yes but why arent we six goals up like everyone else who plays the Aeliade losers?

Because we are a middle of the road team and we need to understand that. We have beaten a lot of teams by less than three goals. And I hate Dwayne Russell so much. He is such a terrible commentator.

[Donners]

Time for White, Everitt, Kennelly and Jetta to go.

Bevo was okay at least, within his limitations. McVeigh, O'Keefe, Hannebery and Bolton were solid.

[chuckie]

Nearly every game we play we go goaless in a quarter, it is just not good enough.

[Big Al]

Tell you what we are no certainties to beat the Suns next week based on that performance.

Oh well, I think I've earned a beer after today's work and then having to come home and watch that rubbish. :)

[IrishSwanPerth]

Horse needs to go, has no idea what so ever. I said months ago we are poor and I was wrong we are pathetic. 40 plus minutes without a goal

[Donners]

And seaby completely dominated in the ruck but we still couldn't make the most of it.

Huh? Jacobs killed him.

[Bas]

Well we are no sure bet on that performance against the Suns next week and then we hit Freo and Dogs at home.

So top 8 is looking very shakey at the moment.

Although I think we can fall over the line for 8th spot.

[CJK]

Did the commentator just say the Swans were their own worst enimas? (excuse spelling)

They sure did

[Mel]

Why wasn't TDL in the team? If running out the game is a problem, why not sub him at or around 3/4 time. I reckon he would have done alright down there tonight. Certainly no worse than at least half the team that actually played.

[Captain]

Pathetic effort from the players. Pathetic coaching. Pathetic team selection.

[Cosmic Wizard]

Crap coaching!!!
Our sub not on soon enough and again aging players alowed to play.
So angry, adelaide are a crap team which we let them beat us.
Someone should be sack and it should start we the coaching staff.
How many weeks have we kick 5.15 and it hasn't improved???
The idea we are a top four side is bull@@@@.
We are nothing but a bull@@@@ team hoping to play finals, one week only!

[Captain]

Why wasn't TDL in the team? If running out the game is a problem, why not sub him at or around 3/4 time. I reckon he would have done alright down there tonight. Certainly no worse than at least half the team that actually played.

Apparently only players who can tackle well get a game. If they are good at kicking goals apparently that;s not good enough.

[Melbournehammer]

We are seriously in big trouble now to even make the eight. We simply have very few games which are genuinely likely wins with this forward line.

[Captain]

Why wasn't TDL in the team? If running out the game is a problem, why not sub him at or around 3/4 time. I reckon he would have done alright down there tonight. Certainly no worse than at least half the team that actually played.

Apparently only players who can tackle well get a game. If they are good at kicking goals apparently that;s not good enough.

[Margie]

Ugh that was particularly galling. Easy goals missed from right in front. That terrible gifted goal they got when Shaw was pinged right in front because the cheat was holding him.

That match was there for the taking. As soon as I saw the forecast, I thought we'd probably lose.

How do you calm down when you don't drink?

[Bas]

I thought Jetta played very well tonight.

What's the number for F.A.R.K Academy?

My pre-match fears came true.

[Cheer_Cheer]

How many marks did Goodes spill tonight ?

[Bas]

I thought Jetta played very well tonight.

What's the number for F.A.R.K Academy?

My pre-match fears came true.

[CJK]

It's a shame that the knock-out punch was all AJ's fault. Really poor decision making there.

But the blame must go to the terrible kicking for goal. Was awful. Awful.

To be fair as well the delivery is not up to much, long and high to no one. Looking at you ROK.

[CJK]

It's a shame that the knock-out punch was all AJ's fault. Really poor decision making there.

But the blame must go to the terrible kicking for goal. Was awful. Awful.

To be fair as well the delivery is not up to much, long and high to no one. Looking at you ROK.

[Cheer_Cheer]

Apparently only players who can tackle well get a game. If they are good at kicking goals apparently that;s not good enough.

Jetta can't tackle..

[CJK]

lots of double posting. even the site is having a shocker tonight

[Lucky Knickers]

Because we are a middle of the road team and we need to understand that. We have beaten a lot of teams by less than three goals. And I hate Dwayne Russell so much. He is such a terrible commentator.
Yes. Yes and Yes



McVeigh, O'Keefe, Hannebery and Bolton were solid.
I thought they were ok but not great. Should have dominated and didn't. Kudos to Crows.


Horse needs to go, has no idea what so ever. I said months ago we are poor and I was wrong we are pathetic. 40 plus minutes without a goal


Huh? Jacobs killed him.
No - disagree. Thought Seaby was great. Our mids were shocking.


We are seriously in big trouble now to even make the eight. We simply have very few games which are genuinely likely wins with this forward line.
Yep. Very irritating to miss that game. Very poor and annoying.

How big a difference does Nick Smith make. He is one player that we can't cover for at the last minute. You would never have put Everitt on the plane knowing Smith would have some hamstring tightness.

[Swans500]

Jetta can't tackle..

Jetta actually did a few tonight....

[legaff]

But they don't have much trouble hitting a coke can... how convenient!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfiClmaKcF4

[Cheer_Cheer]

Jetta actually did a few tonight....

None of them stuck though...

[Captain]

TDL should learn to kick more points. He might get a game then.

[dendol]

To be fair as well the delivery is not up to much, long and high to no one. Looking at you ROK.
What kind of delivery do you expect in pouring rain? It was the type of game to just get the ball forward, but we were over-handballing again.

Extremely poor kicking for goal and a the Crows kicked a few from dubious frees, what a depressing loss.

[Cosmic Wizard]

How many marks did Goodes spill tonight ?

Seriously thinking that Goodes is the most overrated player in the AFL!!

How many weeks must go by without some outstanding performance from him??

His output tonight was totally third rate.

With the amount of money throw at him, it could be better used elsewhere.

Too many players living on reputations earned years ago.

Time for a purge, starting with Kenneally

[IrishSwanPerth]

Cant believe the dockers are above us and they are missing half a team

[Bexl]

Very, very pissed off.

[lwjoyner]

absolutely disgusting. should not even try for the 8 it would be embarrassing. We definetely need to start our focus on the future. Try some of the guys in the 2 for a few weeks, JW isnt good enough ,Tadgh is just about finished as to is Mattner, Goodes needs to find some confidence and when youy cant kick more than 5 goals to win its Bloody" awful. Let Lewis J play for a few games to get his confidence up , TDL MUST play at least he can kick a goal, Everitt should not have been the travelling spare, LJ should have been, Everitt missing that shor in the last qrt although he is not on his pat molone. Its getting very hard to keep plugging away as a supporter , its not getting beat its the way we get beat. The coach and his assistances need to have a hard look at themselves. Obviously MS needs to be given a go as well reading the 2nds reports. I dont know what alse to say I cant even read the first 14 pages I am so disappointed.

[Swans500]

Certainly agree about Kennelly....starting to think about Goodes as well....

Seriously thinking that Goodes is the most overrated player in the AFL!!

How many weeks must go by without some outstanding performance from him??

His output tonight was totally third rate.

With the amount of money throw at him, it could be better used elsewhere.

Too many players living on reputations earned years ago.

Time for a purge, starting with Kenneally

[cheersquadsteve]

worst peformance that i have seen in a very long time, i can accept losing to a better side but tonight the team was completely devoid of any effort.
okeefe is lazy and getting lazier, ditto goodes he needs to stop playing for free kicks and pull his finger out.
grundy, seaby, jude, hanners were the only ones that can comfortably be assured of their spot next week

very very disheartening performance tonight

[Swans500]

Certainly agree about Kennelly....starting to think about Goodes as well....

Seriously thinking that Goodes is the most overrated player in the AFL!!

How many weeks must go by without some outstanding performance from him??

His output tonight was totally third rate.

With the amount of money throw at him, it could be better used elsewhere.

Too many players living on reputations earned years ago.

Time for a purge, starting with Kenneally

[Lucky Knickers]

Because we are a middle of the road team and we need to understand that. We have beaten a lot of teams by less than three goals. And I hate Dwayne Russell so much. He is such a terrible commentator.
Yes. Yes and Yes



McVeigh, O'Keefe, Hannebery and Bolton were solid.
I thought they were ok but not great. Should have dominated and didn't. Kudos to Crows.


Horse needs to go, has no idea what so ever. I said months ago we are poor and I was wrong we are pathetic. 40 plus minutes without a goal
This is way OTT. I think you need to relax and have a potato toddie.


Huh? Jacobs killed him.
No - disagree. Thought Seaby was great. Our mids were shocking when it really mattered.


We are seriously in big trouble now to even make the eight. We simply have very few games which are genuinely likely wins with this forward line.
Yep. Very irritating to miss that game. Very poor and annoying.

How big a difference does Nick Smith make. He is one player that we can't cover for at the last minute. You would never have put Everitt on the plane knowing Smith would have some hamstring tightness.

[Bexl]

l. Let Lewis J play for a few games to get his confidence up , TDL MUST play at least he can kick a goal, Everitt should not have been the travelling spare, LJ should have been, Everitt missing that shor in the last qrt although he is not on his pat molone. Its getting very hard to keep plugging away as a supporter , its not getting beat its the way we get beat. The coach and his assistances need to have a hard look at themselves. Obviously MS needs to be given a go as well reading the 2nds reports. I dont know what alse to say I cant even read the first 14 pages I am so disappointed.

Spot on, LJ is one of the best kicks at the club and TDL can be a top small forward, Spanger should get a game ahead of White. AND WE NEED A FORWARD LINE TO KICK GOALS>

[Margie]

Kennelly seems to have lost his confidence (along with some pace).

Truly awful effort tonight. Not that we've been great all year, I guess us being in the 8 just shows how bad some of the other teams are.

[Xie Shan]

I'm devastated by the way we played tonight, just a horrible performance. We are, right at this point, a mid-table team, and mid-table teams do lose these games unfortunately. I'm at a loss with how to solve our forward line woes, we simply have to find a way to create more goalscoring opportunities.

[Margie]

I'm devastated by the way we played tonight, just a horrible performance. We are, right at this point, a mid-table team, and mid-table teams do lose these games unfortunately. I'm at a loss with how to solve our forward line woes, we simply have to find a way to create more goalscoring opportunities.

Our "charisma" has gone. We miss Roos and Kirk.

Jude Bolton has taken over as the guts of the whole team and is one of a only a few players who can hold his head up and collect his pay with a clear conscience.

As for the goal-scoring opportunities - it just seems a lost cause at the moment.

[Melbournehammer]

I'm devastated by the way we played tonight, just a horrible performance. We are, right at this point, a mid-table team, and mid-table teams do lose these games unfortunately. I'm at a loss with how to solve our forward line woes, we simply have to find a way to create more goalscoring opportunities.

Kicking straight might actually help. 14.6 would actually win the game. 2.9 after half time.

[Doctor]

I'm frustrated and angry after that performance. Too much cute stuff in that weather when we should have been belting it forward. As soon as I heard it was wet I was worried because we seem to struggle in that weather and it's good for a team that's down on morale and results to get a wet one cos the conditions can level things out. Despite all the shortcomings from our performance though, the most frustrating thing of all is that we would have won were it not for errant kicking. A lot of the behinds were rushed or snaps but the misses from Bevan, O'Keefe and Everitt were awful. Couple that with Bevan's mistake on Van Berlo at the other end and it wasn't a good quarter from him. The umpiring favoured them to an extent but it's not why we lost IMO.

[Cheer_Cheer]

Jude Bolton has taken over as the guts of the whole team and is one of a only a few players who can hold his head up and collect his pay with a clear conscience..

He really should be our captain IMO..

[Melbournehammer]

I'm devastated by the way we played tonight, just a horrible performance. We are, right at this point, a mid-table team, and mid-table teams do lose these games unfortunately. I'm at a loss with how to solve our forward line woes, we simply have to find a way to create more goalscoring opportunities.

But I reckon this is the way we have played all season. But. We needed to win this game. This was critical to us. Were now right in the middle of the pack. We do get Brisbane at home. But next week we just have to win and win well. Because the two games at the scg after that are going to be seriously hard

[Margie]

Watching the Suns first half against Freo in an away game should make the Swans very nervous about playing them on their home turf. Many of their players have better skills than us!

[Bexl]

We get the ball forward but don,t have the players there to finish the hard work. TDL and LJ are players that can kick well. Just bring them into the team and play them so they can develop like reed.

[Bas]

I recall that for many years, everyone questioned Roos' ability on game day as well.

Lots of young players and they were going to hit the wall sooner or later during the season.

[Melbournehammer]

I recall that for many years, everyone questioned Roos' ability on game day as well.

Lots of young players and they were going to hit the wall sooner or later during the season.

But it was actually our younger players in many cases who did their jobs. Sam marked reasonably well, Aj did a good job, hanners was pretty solid. It was the failure of the goodes, okeefe etc to do more than break even that was the disappointment on the night

[Nico]

Spot on, LJ is one of the best kicks at the club and TDL can be a top small forward, Spanger should get a game ahead of White. AND WE NEED A FORWARD LINE TO KICK GOALS>

White how horrible was he. What a pretender. Someone rang up SEN during the week and said he is built like Tarzan and plays like Jane. That is very unfair on Jane.
At least Jane would get a kick in a stampede.
What about Jetta. He kicks the early goal and yes got off a handpass in the last that resulted in a goal. But for the rest of the game was a no contest. Passenger of the first order. Right off him.
ROK might have the stats but that's about all. Missed that set shot then a few minutes later drops a sitter on the wing for a turnover and goal.
Dead set looked like Mattner was playing for the Crows. Every time we play in the wet he does those dumb handpasses to no one when he should be kicking when he is clear and about to run inside 50.
I reckon Adelaide players called for the ball from our blokes on a number of occasions.
How bad were our one out contests going forward.eg Bevan, Jetta and McGlynn.
So Kennelly has turned 30. That figures why he has talked himself up for another year. He was woeful and clubs now just sit on him and he makes error after error. Not that you can question his endevour.
Bird was terrific until injured, Bolton bloody fantastic, Hanners was good but please handball off instead of trying to kick a goal (lets himself down in this area continuously) Seaby again good. The backline was again good and I look forward to the day when Johnson decides to move the ball on quickly.
About as disappointing as it gets.

[Cheer_Cheer]

I recall that for many years, everyone questioned Roos' ability on game day as well.

Lots of young players and they were going to hit the wall sooner or later during the season.

I wouldn't put this on the junior players as much as some of the seniors.. Goodes & Tadgh the main culprits..

[Nico]

He really should be our captain IMO..

It was a bit cold, wet and tough for our real captain tonight. As outside a midfielder as you would get tonight. Those tackles really sting on wet nights.

[Nico]

I'm frustrated and angry after that performance. Too much cute stuff in that weather when we should have been belting it forward. As soon as I heard it was wet I was worried because we seem to struggle in that weather and it's good for a team that's down on morale and results to get a wet one cos the conditions can level things out. Despite all the shortcomings from our performance though, the most frustrating thing of all is that we would have won were it not for errant kicking. A lot of the behinds were rushed or snaps but the misses from Bevan, O'Keefe and Everitt were awful. Couple that with Bevan's mistake on Van Berlo at the other end and it wasn't a good quarter from him. The umpiring favoured them to an extent but it's not why we lost IMO.

And White's no contest in front of goal.

[cheersquadsteve]

the senior players are supposed to be the match winners not the kids, and tonight they failed miserably okeefe disappears goodes seems to get distracted jude was the only one willing to fly the flag tonight

[Margie]

And White's no contest in front of goal.

Ah, White. Might be a nice guy but seriously lacks football smarts.

[Nico]

When someone has the intestinal fortitude to watch a reply please post how many centre clearances we had. We were again thrashed in this area and in many cases our blokes were more than 5 metres from the contest. How the centre clearance coach keeps his job is way beyond my comprehension. This is by far the worst aspect of our game and costs us big time every week.

[juliec]

I think Jetta,Everitt, Kennelly, all have to go, Jetta can't tackle, he gets sent back to the reserves for 1 week only, then straight back in, I think he definitely has a gold ticket, he does a couple of runs and that all we get, surely he has to do a lot more to hold his spot,

Kennelly is finished, too old too slow, I don't think Everitt is going to make it, why cant we bring Lewis Johnson in, leave forward, just let him stay there like we do for Reid, what have we got to lose, noone can kick any goals

A few players need to take a look at how hard Jude tries, he gives everything and more

I am sick of our team not kicking GOALS, what can we lose by trying something different!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Steve]

It was a dreadful performance by the players and coaches. However I?m thinking (or perhaps more so hoping) this is a blessing in disguise. Like the Melbourne loss last year, hopefully tonight is a wake-up call that will do us more good than just getting by and thinking everything is OK.
We should have lost to Essendon and WC (and to an extent also North and Richmond), but winning those games has glossed over woeful selection and up-and-down efforts by certain players.

It is almost arrogance that we keep picking a completely unbalanced lineup and expect it won?t hurt us. Fair enough it won?t really matter against the top 4 teams as we?re not good enough to challenge them anyway, but it?s as though we think we can employ whatever selection policy we please against all other teams and it won?t catch up with us.

We still have no forward structure ? TDL and Moore would have been handy tonight. And I still say Richards, LRT and AJ can?t play in the same side ? they?re all poor kicks and moving the ball from defence has been a major issue for us all year. I don?t think it?s a coincidence Ted and AJ were out last week and we looked a lot better out of defence.

Above all else ? priority # 1: employ a $#*&%@! Meteorologist and keep their advice in mind when picking the side. We?re just not good enough (collectively or individually) to pick the same side regardless of the conditions and expect it will work.

[Damien]

White how horrible was he. What a pretender. Someone rang up SEN during the week and said he is built like Tarzan and plays like Jane. That is very unfair on Jane.
At least Jane would get a kick in a stampede.
What about Jetta. He kicks the early goal and yes got off a handpass in the last that resulted in a goal. But for the rest of the game was a no contest. Passenger of the first order. Right off him.
ROK might have the stats but that's about all. Missed that set shot then a few minutes later drops a sitter on the wing for a turnover and goal.
Dead set looked like Mattner was playing for the Crows. Every time we play in the wet he does those dumb handpasses to no one when he should be kicking when he is clear and about to run inside 50.
I reckon Adelaide players called for the ball from our blokes on a number of occasions.
How bad were our one out contests going forward.eg Bevan, Jetta and McGlynn.
So Kennelly has turned 30. That figures why he has talked himself up for another year. He was woeful and clubs now just sit on him and he makes error after error. Not that you can question his endevour.
Bird was terrific until injured, Bolton bloody fantastic, Hanners was good but please handball off instead of trying to kick a goal (lets himself down in this area continuously) Seaby again good. The backline was again good and I look forward to the day when Johnson decides to move the ball on quickly.
About as disappointing as it gets.

Agree 100%.

On White, he got to go. Like you said, total pretender. Never uses his body well, never makes a good decision. Time to be dropped and see if GWS or his hometown GC are idiots later in the year and give us something for him.

[Nico]

Agree 100%.

On White, he got to go. Like you said, total pretender. Never uses his body well, never makes a good decision. Time to be dropped and see if GWS or his hometown GC are idiots later in the year and give us something for him.



White looks like he doesn't know how to play the game. Tonight the only time he got his hands on the ball was when it fell into his lap. If Spanger is playing so well in the 2's he must replace White. Reid plays like a CHF so putting Spanger up front as a power forward makes sense. He is a massive unit.

[Southern Swan15]

Was at the game tonight and cant start to explain my dissapointment. firstly i saw 22 blokes who to me thought that going though the motions tonight would be enough. Geelong played this sied last week without 8 regualrs, won by 60(??)ish points. We go in without maybe 2 of our bet and get done by 7 points. My question is 1- Where are we at, honestly, Are we that bad and lucky ot be where we are on the ladder due to a few close wins in the first half of the year. or 2 - did we just have a bad night???

Unfortnuatly i think we are in the 1 category.

[wolftone57]

:mad:Pathetic!!!! Gam Plan ! What Game Plan! If you call kicking the ball high in hope a game plan or handballing in slippery conditions a game plan then I think it stinks. What about man on man footy that we did so well in the last half last week. What about our goal kicking, jesus do they do any goal kicking practice at training? Some of the players that let us down;

LRT =Ordinary tonight
Goodes was trying to be too tricky it was not the right night to do that stuff; Ineffectual
Everritt came on late but was inefectual & had the chance to put us ahead & decided to kick off the ground. Two shots at goal both points & both gettable. The one running into goal & decided to kick off ground OH JASUS WHAT AC STUFF UP!!! He had Jesse running with him & only one opponent & if he took the ball could heve either drawn the opponent or drilled the goal
Benny was crap tonight got beaten by 3 opponents
Shaw had to go down back & frankly I was breathing much easier when he went forward, the move made far too late as Johncock was carving us up. Bevo tried to hold him but not good enough.

We missed Smith

I thought Parker was very good in & under but there were too many of our mob doing the same job & no-one outriding except when Birdie, Lewie or Hannas trying to break the sides.

Kennelly was very ordinary tonight & it pains me to say that but I think he is really slow now!

[wolftone57]

Was at the game tonight and cant start to explain my dissapointment. firstly i saw 22 blokes who to me thought that going though the motions tonight would be enough. Geelong played this sied last week without 8 regualrs, won by 60(??)ish points. We go in without maybe 2 of our bet and get done by 7 points. My question is 1- Where are we at, honestly, Are we that bad and lucky ot be where we are on the ladder due to a few close wins in the first half of the year. or 2 - did we just have a bad night???

Unfortnuatly i think we are in the 1 category.

to be honest with you I have been saying this all year, we have won most of our games by very small margins & if they had of been losses instead of wins we would have been near the bottom of the ladder. We have been fortunate but we are developing a very good side just not the one we played today. TDL kicked 11 goals in the 2's & if he doesn't get a run next week I think sack the coach & the selection committee & @@@@@@ them all. Get rid of Jesse as he is another Fitzie!!! Looks great never delivers!! Time to look to the furure & bring Byron Sumner into the side doing great things in the 2's & I loved the way LJ was able to kick in against the Pies & hit a player 70 metres away on the chest. time to put LRT out to pasture for a while. Spanger has to come in & play the 2nd ruck role & CHF. while we are at it lets bring in Nipper to give the forwardline a real bit of zip. Piss off Benny for a couple of weks as he has been pretty ordinary for a while. He needs to freshen up!

[Lucky Knickers]

LRT =Ordinary tonight

Don't agree - thought LRT was good.
Parker was good and thought Shaw was one of our better.

[wolftone57]

Embarrassing...appalling....the expectations they were so sure of has made a fool of themselves. Worst loss of the year, and we have to surely now all agree that we DO NOT HAVE A FORWARD LINE!!!!! And there is not one in sight....had enough of this mob...

I have been saying this all year & been ignored. Finally someone agrees with me! If you put Spanger, TDL & maybe Benny & Reiddy, Maca maybe or Nipper we could have a forwardline. Byron into the middle to give some real clearances & think about Currie (Crusher) because I think he is the future of the ruck as much as I like Mummy & Seabs! We do not want to lose this bloke as he is rough as guts & that is what wins premierships!!!

[swans_premiers]

Was at the game. Wasn't the best effort however please keep in mind the conditions were absolutely @@@@ house. Had been raining hard all day, would be silly do make judgements on any players based ONLY on tonights games.

Would have been nice sitting out in the rain watching them kick goals rather than behinds though.

[wolftone57]

Don't agree - thought LRT was good.
Parker was good and thought Shaw was one of our better.

Tippett was really good for them if he was not getting the ball he was hitting it forward or blocking for other players & LRT gave away a couple of very soft free kicks, comes from playing on the forward line & being asked to go back all of a sudden. I think he needs a few resie games to get his ballance back. LRT was soundly beaten today & he gave away 3 frees 2 of which got goals.

[CJK]

& think about Currie (Crusher) because I think he is the future of the ruck as much as I like Mummy & Seabs! !!

Mummy over the hill? Now I've heard it all!

[wolftone57]

I said Parker & Shaw were good! I never said these players were down I though Parkers effort really good. That Shimmy in the first was super, a glide not a baulk, just beautiful I used to to do just the same thing & didn't move very far so cute!!! Shawie had to fill gaps today cos Nickie was not in but I think that was a mistake & they should have taken another tagging mid like Byron instead of Everritt.

Next Week OUT;

Everritt
White
Bevo (Tries Hard Just not quite good enough)
LRT (Tried Hard but was soundly beaten needs to be retrained at another level Resies)
As far as i am concerned Benny has got to be on a string, he has performed in only half of the games this season & today was not one of those. I think he needs a rest as well.
Tadhg could do with a rest as well he was pretty ineffectual tonight & his opponent was pretty good.

[wolftone57]

I think the difference between the sides was the effort by Adelaide to push the ball on at all costs & kick to a position & Jared Petrenko! He killed Kennelly & I don't konw if Tadhg even knew he was on him

[wolftone57]

Mummy over the hill? Now I've heard it all!

I never said Mummy was over the hill nor is Seabs as he is only 26 but I think the young bloke has a lot go give & it will be a lot more than Mikie Babie I think. Mikie is lovely & takes a very good mark but this young bloke is going to be here for the premiership years for us!!

[wolftone57]

What's more he is called Crusher & I can tell you it is not because he is overweight! He throws his weight around & protects his small players & he does it without getting reported WOW!!!! This is something our footy club needs & hasn't had since Plugger & Spider.

[ugg]

What's more he is called Crusher & I can tell you it is not because he is overweight! He throws his weight around & protects his small players & he does it without getting reported WOW!!!! This is something our footy club needs & hasn't had since Plugger & Spider.
I like Currie a lot and I hope he makes it, but throwing his weight around isn't one of his noted strengths. In fact, the coaches probably want him to do more of that and he's too nice for his own sake.

[Triple B]

What's more he is called Crusher & I can tell you it is not because he is overweight! He throws his weight around & protects his small players & he does it without getting reported WOW!!!! This is something our footy club needs & hasn't had since Plugger & Spider.

I told you in a thread last week, you've got the wrong bloke. You need to give it a rest before all credibility is lost...

[jono2707]

How many of you experts have actually played in such crappy conditions? I'm disappointed too but Im not going to hang draw and quarter the guys - tough night. We tried. We lost. Get over it...

[wolftone57]

The times I have seen Currie he has thrown his weight around twicw mind you, but I thought that would be hid normal game

[GongSwan]

White looks like he doesn't know how to play the game. Tonight the only time he got his hands on the ball was when it fell into his lap. If Spanger is playing so well in the 2's he must replace White. Reid plays like a CHF so putting Spanger up front as a power forward makes sense. He is a massive unit.

Yep, we need a forward who can take marks and won't be pushed around. White either needs to belt someone and cop the suspension, or get rid of him, worst passenger I have ever seen in a swans jumper. A game we should have won but for lamentable goal kicking

[ugg]

The times I have seen Currie he has thrown his weight around twicw mind you, but I thought that would be hid normal game
Let's say for argument's sake that he is the type to throw his weight around, knock around a few blokes at the stoppages and get really aggro - do you think that's what cost us the game tonight? Would the inclusion of this hypothetical angry Currie help us win games?

[wolftone57]

How many of you experts have actually played in such crappy conditions? I'm disappointed too but Im not going to hang draw and quarter the guys - tough night. We tried. We lost. Get over it...

Sorry we are supposed to be a top 8 side & this mob are 14th on the table & even though on their dunghill we have an 11 for & 13 now 14 against at AAMI Stadium. Better known as Footy Park to Adelaidians. The expectation was a win & even though the weather was bad we should have still won. I am sorry but the get over it thing I don't get! We are in this Comp to win it not to make up the numbers & if that is your attitude then no wonder the Swans took 40 years to win anothewr Preniership!! Winning is everything!!! The Premiership the goal of every footballer & the epitomy of greatness in this arena! Don't tell me to get over it! If I feel like venting I will thank you as I think that this forum supports that to a certain extent. We lost because we created the conditions to lose!!!

[wolftone57]

Let's say for argument's sake that he is the type to throw his weight around, knock around a few blokes at the stoppages and get really aggro - do you think that's what cost us the game tonight? Would the inclusion of this hypothetical angry Currie help us win games?

Ugg I am not talking about angry I am talking protection of the smaller blokes & if you had read my earlier post you would have read that I am impressed by the way thev young bloke impresses himself on the game by throwing his weight around legally not illegally!!!! He protected his smalls created avenues for them by putting his body on the line & shepherding for them, great stuff! Mummy does the same thing & I think it may be a run off from Mummy!! I haven't seen a great deal of him but was impressed by that part of his game the times I did see him

[mcs]

How many of you experts have actually played in such crappy conditions? I'm disappointed too but Im not going to hang draw and quarter the guys - tough night. We tried. We lost. Get over it...

Sorry I don't buy that at all. They were crappy conditions- but that is absolutely no excuse to lose to a team that had won 3 games all year and lost their last 6. If you want to be a quality football team, then you just win games like that tonight. We shot ourselves in the foot with crap disposal, rubbish kicking from goal and being outenthused. I am very unhappy with that and it may come back to bite us hard. Bad conditions is no excuse for not beating a team that you should be beating comfortably!

[mcs]

We were utter tripe tonight. Far too much kick it and hope, and as per the usual absolutely @@@@ing woeful in front of goal- I'm especially looking at you O'Keefe and Everitt- 3 massive chances wasted in the last quarter, all very kickable. Why Everitt didn't pick that ball up I will never know.

Our in and under guys did fine, but we had no plan of attack as to how we were trying to play tonight. Far too many tim

I know the conditions were bad, but seriously that can not be seen as an excuse. We lost to a very ordinary football team, and instead of keeping well away from the teams on the edge of the eight, we've been dragged back into the fold with them and if we don't vastly improve our goalkicking and general skills, we could yet miss the finals. Really annoyed about that performance tonight- utterly woeful.

Must say though I liked the look of Parker- he looks a good in and under player to me and hopefully we will see more of him. Everitt though should never have been selected as sub, and well Jetta might run fast, but thats about all he can do at the moment for large periods of the game- his disposal generally is woeful.

[ugg]

Ugg I am not talking about angry I am talking protection of the smaller blokes & if you had read my earlier post you would have read that I am impressed by the way thev young bloke impresses himself on the game by throwing his weight around legally not illegally!!!! He protected his smalls created avenues for them by putting his body on the line & shepherding for them, great stuff! Mummy does the same thing & I think it may be a run off from Mummy!! I haven't seen a great deal of him but was impressed by that part of his game the times I did see him

I'm not sure who you thought needed 'protection' tonight. The forward line is the main issue to be rectified

[Melbournehammer]

I'm not sure who you thought needed 'protection' tonight. The forward line is the main issue to be rectified

But it's needed rectification all season. This was not a night for marking forwards - so you might think it would have suited our non marking forwards. But we simply do not make the most of our opportunities. And this happens over and over again

[AnnieH]

I really, really, really don't like the way they go into a competition for the ball and shepherd a player instead of trying to pick up the ball.

It happened about 20 times - the crows came through and picked up the ball easily and ran away with it.

Whichever coach is training this and allowing this to happen should be getting a massive kick up the arse.

IMO - that's what lost us the game - oh, and our @@@@ kicking in front of the sticks.

[Melbournehammer]

[QUOTE=AnnieH;536862]I really, really, really don't like the way they go into a competition for the ball and shepherd a player instead of trying to pick up the ball.

It happened about 20 times - the crows came through and picked up the ball easily and ran away with it.

I agree completely and also there is a lot of that when the ball is in the air. Too often our players are doing the right thing keeping their opponent under the ball but not themselves trying to get the ball and the ball goes over their heads and hits a leading forward on it's chest or alternatively goes another 30 metres down the line.

Have a look how often the ball went over the back of a defenders for us to go back and have to try and force the ball over the line about thirty metres further down the field.

[Triple B]

The WTF? Post of the Year Awards - Finalist:


Personally I don't think Bird is much of a player anyway so who cares whether he comes back on.

Well I cared and I'd reckon plenty other RWO'ers cared. I betchya Scott Thompson cared, he may have thought he might be able to get an uncontested possession at last.

[annew]

The WTF? Post of the Year Awards - Finalist:



Well I cared and I'd reckon plenty other RWO'ers cared. I betchya Scott Thompson cared, he may have thought he might be able to get an uncontested possession at last.

That was sheer frustration speak!

[Triple B]

That was sheer frustration speak!

Fair enough, we are all guilty of it at times and last night was the type of night for it to happen...

[Cosmic Wizard]

I'm not sure who you thought needed 'protection' tonight. The forward line is the main issue to be rectified

We have had a forward line all season??

We had a back man, a very small forward, and other rubbish pretending to be a forwards, and their kicking showing that they are not.

Why this is still not seen by the coaching pannel shows what how crap they are.

How many games must go by when we kick 5.15 and still there is not a change.

We are lucky to be in the eight, but there is now a good chance we will not play final footy!

[neilfws]

Just read Damien Hardwick's words on the Tigers smashing yesterday. He said to his players: "I don't ever want to speak about that game again."

I've decided I feel the same way about last night.

[Bas]

I've decided I feel the same way about last night.

What happened last night? Someone play ?