Round 17: Sydney Swans Reserves v GWS Giants

[ugg]

NEAFL Round 17
Sydney Swans Reserves v GWS Giants
Saturday 23rd July 2011 10.00am
Blacktown Olympic Park

Note new time and location!

The weather gods continue to toy with us poor ressies fans and so another SCG-scheduled game has yet again been rescheduled. A home game against the Giants has now turned into an away game at Blacktown.

GWS will be battle-hardened having played all the 3 AFL Reserves sides and the top Northern Conference side (NT Thunder) in the 4 of their past 5 games, and have come away with a respectable 2 wins. The Swans will be severely depleted in listed player numbers and will have another tough task after hanging on against Eastlake the week before.

Eastern Conference Ladder
Team|Played|Wins|Losses|Draws|Byes|%Won|For|Agains t|Percentage
Reserves|13|12|0|1|1|92.31%|1591|693|229.58%
Ainslie|12|9|3|0|2|75.00%|1175|990|118.69%
GWS|12|7|4|0|3|63.64%|1048|880|119.09%
Eastlake|12|5|7|0|2|41.67%|1022|1071|95.42%
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Tuggeranong|12|5|7|0|2|41.66%|1023|1337|76.51%
Queanbeyan|12|3|9|0|2|25.00%|976|1349|72.35%
Belconnen|12|1|11|0|2|8.33%|794|1418|55.99%


Past Meetings
2011
Pre-Season Reserves 23.16 (154) defeated GWS 8.10 (58) @ ANZ Stadium

After a lethargic and mistake-riddled start, the Reserves began to use their bigger bodies and greater experience to beat the Giants into submission. Jed Lamb starred as a medium forward, displaying adroitness when the ball hit the ground as well as accurate finishing with his set shots. Mike Pyke impressed in the ruck and when he rested forward booted 3 goals from difficult angles.

Goals: Lamb 6, Pyke 3, Haren 3, Gordon 2, Currie 2, Murphy, Kruger, Seaby, Brain, Robinson, McKaigue, Sumner
Best: N/A

R6 GWS 3.9 (27) defeated by Reserves 12.15 (87) @ Manuka Oval

GWS were much improved from their previous showing against the Reserves, and managed to keep the contest low-scoring and tight right up till the end of the 3rd quarter. The Swans kicked away in the last quarter but onlookers left very impressed with the disciplined and well-drilled side that Sheedy and Choco have managed to build up. Luke Parker was immense in the midfield and up forward, earning a debut in the next week based on this performance. Lewis Johnston and Chris McKaigue were lauded for their defensive work, especially their spoiling down back.

Goals: White 3, Haren 2, E.Moody 2, Dennis-Lane 2, Parker, Bevan, McNeil
Best: Parker, Johnston, McKaigue, Thompson, Roberts-Thomson, McNeil

R12 GWS 3.11 (29) defeated by Reserves 17.13 (115) @ Blacktown Olympic Park

A tight and intriguing struggle developed during the early stages of the game where GWS's pressure and tackling strangled the Swans' movement of the ball. After an adjustment during the second quarter where the Sydney players started to kick longer and more direct, they managed to break the Giants' swarm and coast to a comfortable victory. Daniel Currie starred both in the ruck and at full forward finishing with 4 goals. Luke Parker was the pick of the dominant midfielders.

Goal Kickers: Currie 4 Gordon 3 White Dennis-Lane Otten Everitt 2 McNeil Meredith
Best Players: Parker, Heath, Meredith, White, Gordon, Currie

Recent Form
Reserves
R1 BYE
R2 WIN Away Eastlake 83-33
R3 WIN Home Belconnen 138-29
R4 BYE
R5 WIN Home Tuggeranong 123-12
R6 WIN Away GWS 87-27
R7 WIN Home Gold Coast Reserves 120-28
R8 BYE
R9 WIN Away Ainslie 124-74
R10 WIN Away Brisbane Reserves 104-97
R11 WIN Home Queanbeyan 102-53
R12 WIN Away GWS 115-29
R13 WIN Home Queanbeyan 220-32
R14 WIN Away Tuggeranong 212-57
R15 LOSS Away Gold Coast Reserves 62-141
R16 WIN Home Eastlake 101-81

GWS
R1 BYE
R2 WIN Away Ainslie 109-68
R3 WIN Home Tuggeranong 101-71
R4 BYE
R5 LOSS Away Northern Bullants 34-123 (FOXTEL CUP)
R6 LOSS Home Sydney Swans Reserves 27-87
R7 LOSS Away Brisbane Lions Reserves 86-101
R8 WIN Home Queanbeyan 129-88
R9 WIN Away Eastlake 112-50
R10 WIN Home Gold Coast Suns Reserves 111-74
R11 BYE
R12 LOSS Home Sydney Swans Reserves 29-115
R13 WIN Home Belconnen 176-46
R14 LOSS Away NT Thunder 57-106
R15 WIN Home Brisbane Lions Reserves 111-74
R16 BYE

Last Round
Reserves 15.11 (101) defeated Eastlake 12.9 (81)
With just 9 listed players available, the Reserves' cause was not helped by the withdrawals of key midfielders Brett Meredith and Campbell Heath in the first half. However led by the experienced and tough bodies of Jarred Moore, Mark Seaby and Paul Bevan and receiving great performances from regular topups James Brain and Kane Murphy, the Swans held off a second half surge from the Demons to record an impressive victory

Goal Kickers: Gordon Murphy 3 Brain Seaby 2 Moore Heath Jack McNeil Otten
Best Players: Moore Seaby Bevan Murphy Gordon Brain

GWS had the bye last week so let's look at their game the previous week
GWS 16.15 (111) defeated Brisbane Reserves 11.8 (74)

Goal Kickers: Folau 4 Hampton 3 Carey Cameron Townsend 2 Bruce Treloar Schulz
Best Players: Townsend Darley Giles Treloar Bugg Cameron

Team List
Listed players
#|Name|Games|Goals|Votes|Notes
1|Mark SEABY|7|5|13|
7|Brett MEREDITH|10|10|14|
28|Dylan McNEIL|13|8|17|
33|Jarred MOORE|10|11|25|
36|Chris McKAIGUE|13|1|11|
42|Paul BEVAN|7|9|21|Senior emergency
43|Eugene KRUGER|12|2|4|
44|Max OTTEN|12|3|0|
45|Nathan GORDON|11|23|28|

Changes
In: Kruger (???)
Out: Campbell Heath (knee)

This is a tentative team list.

9 listed players again and there is still doubt on Meredith's hamstrings. McKaigue looks like to be Izzy's most likely opponent, almost by default given the injuries to Johnston, Heath and Spangher and Otten's use in the ruck as a backup to Seaby.

Academy Players/Topups
#|Name|Games|Goals|Votes|Notes
47|Jackson POTTER|4|0|0|
48|Blake GUTHRIE|7|2|0|
49|Nathan KENNY|10|0|0|
50|James BRAIN|9|3|2|
51|Jack LYNCH|4|0|0|
53|Kane MURPHY|10|11|12|
54|Tim WALES|10|1|0|
?|Brandon JACK|1|1|0|#52 last week
?|Bryce McEVOY|0|0|0|from St George
?|Mitch MAY|2|1|0|
?|Daniel ROBINSON|4|3|0|
?|Stephen WRAY|5|0|0|#57 last week


Changes
In: Lynch, McEvoy, May, Robinson
Out: Mitch Crawford, Mitch Daly, Tom Green, Peter Lake, Rory Pryor

Still needs at least one more topup. Lynch returns and will add some height to the lineup.

Reserves leading goalkickers


Trent Dennis-Lane 48
Nathan Gordon 23
Jesse White 17

For full list: 2011 Leading goalkickers - RWOwiki (http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/wiki/index.php?title=2011_Goalkickers)

Reserves leading votegetters


Nathan Gordon, Byron Sumner 28
Jarred Moore 25
Paul Bevan 21

For full list: 2011 Best votes - RWOwiki (http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/wiki/index.php?title=2011_Best_votes)

Talking points

GWS Squad TBA


4. Israel FOLAU
Others

Summary
GWS have been competitive in the last 2 games, managing to keep within distance of the Swans for 2 and 3 quarters respectively. However their inability to convert their chances into goals proved costly in both games with the Swans' miserly defence preventing Izzy and co. from having good shots on goal.

The Swans did extremely well last week with their weakened squad but GWS will be another step up. The Giants are in good form, well rested from their bye and will be looking forward to finally getting the Swans' scalp.

[ugg]

I know I said last week would be my last preview but I couldn't help myself. :p

Suffice to say I won't be live tweeting from this game as a view from the skies over Europe isn't the best vantage point for Blacktown. It's disappointing to hear that the change has resulted in a few regulars being unable to attend but I look forward to hearing from those that do.

[BSA5]

I maaaaaay go. A lot depends on how awake I am tomorrow morning, and how much fuel is in my car! But I'm gonna have so few chances to go this year after this, I feel like I should make the most of the opportunity. So pissed it's been moved to Blacktown though, I live 10 minutes walk from the SCG/Lakeside!

[grose40]

Reckon Kruger should be a starter. Chatted with him trackside last weekend and the game off was due to the melon knock he copped the previous week, he said he was fine and ticked off he wasn't playing v Eastlake. The mandatory rest a reflection of the new concussion rules I guess! Other than Kruger being included we do look pretty frail. GWS coming off the bye last weekend should be well rested and by the look of their team list, at pretty much full strength. Their lads that had been missing in the previous couple months due to RAMS, NT, Nationals duty are all back. At least with the game being @ BOP we can sit in some sort of comfort and be dry!! Oh there are also no over hanging tree's at BOP. PS: great report as per usual Ugg, have a cool holiday!

GWS Giants
2 Curtly Hampton
4 Israel Folau
5 Dylan Shiel
6 Josh Bruce
7 Kurt Aylett
8 Jeremy Cameron
10 Anthony Miles
11 Jack Hombsch
12 Sam Schulz
13 Gerald Ugle
14 Sam Darley
16 Nathan Wilson
17 Adam Treloar
18 Jarrod Harding
20 Alex Carey
21 Joshua Growden
26 Jonathon Giles
28 Rhys Cooyou
29 Ben Casley
30 Damian Williams
31 Jacob Townsend
32 Adam Flagg
35 Ben Reid
40 Matt Channon

[ugg]

Ello from transit in Singapore

latest team has white and tdl in but no Meredith. Also pryor and Andrew moody (whose been named at fullback, surely the shortest one ever)

[Bas]

That's what I call dedication.

[Triple B]

I'll be there and making the mad dash.

Will update twitter on the @bobalski account.

[BSA5]

Just woke up. Obviously not going now. :(

[ABloodsMan]

Thanks Triple B.

GWS are hosting a live chat as well should be interesting to read about the other side of the game. Greater Western Sydney Giants | Giants Live (http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/giants-live/)

[stellation]

bobalski TripleB
Swans 0 0 0 GWS 2 0 12
13 seconds ago

bobalski TripleB
Izzy mark and goal in first 30secs. Swans 0 0 0 GWS 1 0 6
2 minutes ago

bobalski TripleB
TDL, white Nipper start fwd.
3 minutes ago

bobalski TripleB
Powerade girl is here...
4 minutes ago

bobalski TripleB
No Bevan
7 minutes ago

bobalski TripleB
Listed players in 2's TDL White Bulldog Otten Nipper Dill Kreuger McKaigue Seaby Notable topples Murphy Moody Jack Brain Potter Guthrie
7 minutes ago

bobalski TripleB
Not raining at BOP. Overcast and ground heavy.
13 minutes ago

[stellation]

12-zip. We're doomed for eternity!

[Big Al]

12-zip. We're doomed for eternity!

Sack the coach. He's a hack.

[stellation]

Sack the coach. He's a hack.

No, he's a Hank. Get it? aaaaaaaaaahahahahahhahahahahhaha. yes.

[Big Al]

No, he's a Hank. Get it? aaaaaaaaaahahahahahhahahahahhaha. yes.

Come on Stell, that's not playing fair.

[Bas]

The GWS link is only mentioning the GWS scores. Plus you get pfizer ads which may be of benefit for some very soft posters here :)

GWS 25 to Swans 24 - Late 1st quarter I'm guessing.

[Dosser]

I mean really, how hard can this be?

[Bas]

GWS 32 to Swans 30

No idea who has scored for the Swans.

Folau seems to be prominant having scored the first goal and being mentioned in another one.

[Bas]

Crowd of rugby league proportions out there - 70

Now qtr time and no change to last mentioned score.

[wolftone57]

If those scores are any indication we could be in for a high score.

[Bas]

GWS 7.6. 48 to Swans 5.0 30

[Bas]

GWS 8.6 54 to Swans 5.1.31

[wolftone57]

Not good at this stage Bas, are you at the game?

[ShockOfHair]

s a view from the skies over Europe isn't the best vantage point for Blacktown.


Yes it is.

Thanks for the great work Ugg. Hurry back for finals.

[Bas]

No I'm not at the game.

GWS 11.7. 73 to the Swans 6. 1. 37

Half time.

I'll be leaving for the main thrashing around 12pm.

[Triple B]

Murphy and Bulldog are bests. TDL is working hard and playing more around CHF. I think the coaches would be happy with his effort. Jesse and Seaby are interchanging ruck and FF, but neither are starring, but not bad either. GWS are fairly tall in the forward line and our backs aren't coping real well.
It's heavy going, the centre square which is a cricket pitch in summer is very heavy.

[Triple B]

3/4 time. Swans 7 1 43 GWS 13 10 88

[Bas]

GWS 13. 14 97 to Swans 8. 2 50

I'm sure it's Jesse's fault!!!!

[Big Al]

GWS 13. 14 97 to Swans 8. 2 50

I'm sure it's Jesse's fault!!!!

Was Ray umpiring??

[Triple B]

Fulltime Swans 9 3 57 GWS 18 13 121

[wolftone57]

what's worrying is we seem incapable of beating any of the AFL linked sides. That may say something about depth or it may be that we have too many players out as in LJ & Lamby

[Triple B]

Goals
TDL 2 Murphy Bulldog Jesse Brain Nipper Dill Potter

[Big Al]

Thanks for the updates mate!!

[Big Al]

what's worrying is we seem incapable of beating any of the AFL linked sides. That may say something about depth or it may be that we have too many players out as in LJ & Lamby

It's the personnel we have in at the moment. We have a lot of young toppies so we will struggle.

We have beaten the Suns, Lions and GWS twice this year with a lot more listed players playing.

[wolftone57]

It's the personnel we have in at the moment. We have a lot of young toppies so we will struggle.

We have beaten the Suns, Lions and GWS twice this year with a lot more listed players playing.

OK Al that sounds better. It sure makes me feel a lot more secure.

[unconfuseme]

Reasonably predictable outcome today, other than the pathetic crowd!!!
From the advertised list, no Meredith, Bevan (sighted running laps at the SCG at dusk?) or Lynch.
If we present with 8 and 9 listed players and half a dozen 17 y.o.'s against the better sides on a regular basis, we will struggle.
We managed a brave win last week, but further depleted this week, and even with just as big an effort, it was always going to prove to be a bridge too far!
We were able to stay in touch until late in the 2nd quarter, but as expected with such a young line up, the back end of the later quarters were a big challenge mentally and physically.
I would have hoped for more from TDL and White in the leadership area. I would imagine that Krueger will be expected to show more soon.
On the positives, Seaby retains his form, Nipper continues to throws himself into contests without fear, and "Bulldog" was good again, and flew the flag, refusing to take any rubbish from a couple of cocky GWS upstarts late in the game.
Murphy again found the ball in attack. The more experienced scholarship/academy players like Guthrie, Brain, Kenny and Potter were confident and accountable and generally matched their direct opponents, whilst the younger toppies gained valuable game time and experience at a higher level of competition.
GWS are showing the benefits of being a "one team" club, able to play a mostly unchanged side, week in week out. The experience their elite young recruits are gaining from consistent game time against stronger opposition is now showing, and they deserve praise for their big improvement from our previous meeting. They tended to penalise us on the turnover, like a good side, and clearly, the talent they have drafted from the AIS is improving and gaining confidence all of the time (will be scary in the future!).
Izzy is an athlete - kicked 3 I think, but more importantly was looking to do the team things (may need to get a bit more greedy as a forward) but his obvious improvement was there for all to see.
Over all, a bit like when we met them previously, with a good big guy getting the better of a good little guy!

As an aside, I think I have been to BOP about 8 times for various NAB Cup/SAFL /rep/ junior rep matches , and sadly, this NEAFL "showcase" of the second tier of AFL would have attracted the smallest crowd I have encountered there! C'mon you GWS fans! (both of you!) ... what's happening???

[liz]

Thanks for the comments UCM. How did Jack go?

[Bas]

Thanks for the comments UCM. How did Jack go?

Apparently, Jack goes well with everything :D

[Teasdale77]

I was out there for the second half and I'd guess there were 100 spectators at that point. GWS weren't given much opposition from our kids so it's hard to gauge just how well they're coming together.

Interesting move in the 4th was Playfair using Seaby at the centre bounces and having Jesse in the square for I guess roving and bulldozing purposes to try and win some clearances. Had a laugh late in the game when I swear Jesse was going the wrong way before his teammates snapped him out of it.

I've got to be honest and say that TDL still looks relatively unfit and was blowing hard in the 4th. Still not ready for the seniors I reckon.

[unconfuseme]

Brandon was a bit out of his depth today. A bit predictable always trying to go onto his left foot. Tough gig for him though as he is always under the spot light ... hope he just keeps learning from these experiences!

[ScottH]

I've added round 17.

Reserves Round 17 2011 - RWOwiki, Sydney Swans Reserves v GWS, NEAFL Season 2011,Round 17 (http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/wiki/index.php?title=Reserves_Round_17_2011)

If anyone has players numbers I've missed, or any other details please update it.
I've yet to do the Goal Kickers and Votes.

[Triple B]

Scott, I made a few changes.

B.Jack wore 11 and almost sure Moody wore 51.

There was a guy who wore #10 who was reasonably tall and at first I thought was Tom Lynch, but I don't know because he wasn't named.

We only had 4 on the bench

[ScottH]

Scott, I made a few changes.

B.Jack wore 11 and almost sure Moody wore 51.

There was a guy who wore #10 who was reasonably tall and at first I thought was Tom Lynch, but I don't know because he wasn't named.

We only had 4 on the bench

Thanks, I just used last weeks as a guide.

Who was the idiot who approved Ugg's leave during the season???

[nomae]

Was the Great Gaz playing?

If not, is he due back this week?

[ScottH]

Was the Great Gaz playing?

If not, is he due back this week?

No.

And I don't know.

[liz]

Was the Great Gaz playing?

If not, is he due back this week?
No. The team has a bye this week. According to last week's Matt Cameron report, Rohan, Pyke and Lamb are all chances to resume the following week.

[BeeEmmAre]

Rooster was sitting just in front of us in the stands. He looked fit, so hopefully we'll see him back after the bye. On the field, there didn't seem to be much effort, and certainly not compared to the game I saw five weeks ago. Yes, the team was undermanned, but it seems like they have an issue when they are challenged, falling away to big losses.

[Primmy]

Ta fellas. I can't wait to actually sit down and watch another ressies game. Bring back the drought I say. Bugger El or La Ninya whatever. Its stuffing up my weekend!

ugg you still haven't admitted who gave you permission to abandon ship!

[Big Al]

We play in Canberra next week. It looks like another FBT run to the capital for the horseless carriage.

With Ugg not around, will we still be able to get the players numbers??

[unconfuseme]

I've added round 17.

Reserves Round 17 2011 - RWOwiki, Sydney Swans Reserves v GWS, NEAFL Season 2011,Round 17 (http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/wiki/index.php?title=Reserves_Round_17_2011)

If anyone has players numbers I've missed, or any other details please update it.
I've yet to do the Goal Kickers and Votes.

Top ups
47. Jackson Potter
48. Blake Guthrie
49. Nathan Kenny
50. James Brain
51. Andrew Moody
11. Brandon Jack
53. Kane Murphy
54. Tim Wales
56. Bryce Mcevoy
57. Stephen Wray
52(?)Daniel Robinson
10. Mitchell May
55(?). Rory Pryor

[ScottH]

Top ups
47. Jackson Potter
48. Blake Guthrie
49. Nathan Kenny
50. James Brain
51. Andrew Moody
11. Brandon Jack
53. Kane Murphy
54. Tim Wales
56. Bryce Mcevoy
57. Stephen Wray
52(?)Daniel Robinson
10. Mitchell May
55(?). Rory Pryor

Cheers mate.
With those updates it gives me a couple of duplicates.

55. Tom Green
55?. Rory Pryor
56. Mitch Daly
56. Bryce Mcevoy

[ugg]

Scott green and daly only played against eastlakr

[ScottH]

Scott green and daly only played against eastlakr

Corrected. Thanks.