Rnd 9 Match Day Thread. Hawthorn V Sydney. MCG. 19.50 pm.

[aardvark]

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Perfect day for footy here in Melbourne. Swans odds have shortened considerably as the game gets closer.
The interesting question is how will Roughie's news affect the Hawks? Welcome back Gary Rohan. Hawks by 10pts.

[barry]

Tough to backup to MCG to weeks in a row. But on paper we have a good side while the dawks are missing a few.
Could go either way, but on our recent form, you'd have to favor the home team.
This will go a long way to determining if we are a top 4 side or not.

[longmile]

This will go a long way to determining if we are a top 4 side or not.

Agreed. This is a huge game. While we were unlucky last week we didnt deserve to win and my confidence for this has been sapped a bit in the last few rounds. I think this is a real test. Unfortunately I'm tipping the Hawks in a close one

[Mel_C]

I'm not looking forward to tonight...I hate playing Hawthorn and being around their supporters!

My instincts are telling me it is going to be a long night for us. I hope I am wrong.

[chuckie]

I think we must win this game to make up for last week.
Looking at the way the other teams have improved there isn't many games left that we would be certainties to win.

[Industrial Fan]

Hawks by a fair bit in the end. 25-40

[neilfws]

Hard to guess how this one could pan out. Hawks are usually very motivated, I'm sure even more so tonight with the "do it for Roughy" factor. Swans should still be stinging after last week. Maybe those psychological factors cancel each other out!

Given previous recent outings I'll settle for close and competitive.

[bloodbrother]

Hard to guess how this one could pan out. Hawks are usually very motivated, I'm sure even more so tonight with the "do it for Roughy" factor. Swans should still be stinging after last week. Maybe those psychological factors cancel each other out!

Given previous recent outings I'll settle for close and competitive.

They may be motivated but this swans team has more steel inside than given credit for ..swans by 37 pts

[ScottH]

Hawks by a fair bit in the end. 25-40

I love some good confidence in our team!!

I've tipped the hawks by 25. :(
I don't mind being wrong.

[Plugger46]

Swans by 40 :smile:

[dimelb]

They may be motivated but this swans team has more steel inside than given credit for ..swans by 37 pts

Last week the steel played like aluminium. If they play like they can, we are in with a good chance.

[Go Swannies]

I see only two options here. I think the Swans have proved to be a bit soft with close games against weak teams like the Bombers and Lions - and then giving the game to the Tigers.

If we don't win tonight with the better team then I won't be planning any Melbourne trips in September.

Swans by 25.

[Dosser]

About to head on down. I hope there are a few tickets left at the gate.

[111431]

Weather fine no excuses - swans by 4 pts

[Nico]

Mild weather. Looks like little or no dew. No excuses unless it is "free kick Hawthorn".

[ugg]

No late changes for us

[Ocker]

What's with the negativity? Swans by 25


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[Faunac8]

Sydney by 32

[Cheer_Cheer]

It has been really hard to gauge where we are it so far this season.. I feel this game will answer a lot of questions. I hope we did n't bring back Gaz too soon. Not sure who else should have played though. As much as Towers infuriates me a part of me feels he should get a run of games to see if things can click for him. Make him or break him. Swans by 10.

[Zlatorog]

Just to be different: Sydney by -40.

[dejavoodoo44]

Umpires for tonight: Nicholls, Hay and Schmitt. Nicholls I don't mind. Hay I haven't heard of. Schmitt can really do my head in!

[mcs]

Umpires for tonight: Nicholls, Hay and Schmitt. Nicholls I don't mind. Hay I haven't heard of. Schmitt can really do my head in!

Nicholls was god damn awful last week, absolutely crucified us and poor old Grundy.

Hawks couldn't be too worried or they would of called up their #1 ticket holder Stevic to be in the 3 :rofl

[dejavoodoo44]

Nicholls was god damn awful last week, absolutely crucified us and poor old Grundy.

Hawks couldn't be too worried or they would of called up their #1 ticket holder Stevic to be in the 3 :rofl

Yes, I must admit that I did look up the umpires, because I fully expected Stevic to be there. Don't really recall Nicholls annoying me too much last week and I think that the persecution of Reg was more a group effort, but Schmitt was shocking a few weeks ago at the Gabba.

[bloodspirit]

Is Gaz playing back or forward? Who's lining up on who in our back half?

[longmile]

butterfingers from both teams

[bloodspirit]

I like the way Mills looked like being beaten by Puopolo left a really bitter taste in his mouth.

Also liked Heeney's steady, clean hands.

[longmile]

camera work is terrible

[bloodspirit]

As far as I can tell on TV, great atmosphere!

[mcs]

Should have been about 10 holding the balls paid so far - going to be a very uneventful game at this rate.

[longmile]

ROOSTER!

[bloodsbigot]

Zak Jones is playing like absolute crap.

[bloodspirit]

Great start by Gazza! Couple of good marks as well as the goal.

[Billericay]

Great start by Gazza! Couple of good marks as well as the goal.

Great mark by Gaz

[bloodspirit]

I'm so glad Hewett is getting an extended run after we were all so hungry for him to get a game while he did his apprenticeship.

[treespirit]

Our kicking hasn't improved from last week

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[bloodspirit]

Ted's been solid so far tonight but that mark was his best moment so far.

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This is awful after his recent head injury!

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Glad he's running off.

[Foreign Legion]

Good pressure in that quarter but not happy to see Ted go down like that.

Parker looks injured to me. Rampe doing well as is Hannebery.

[Luke Shannon]

Great stuff by Mills. He has been more under siege than Steven Segal. He has kept at it despite some errors and is growing in character as the examination goes on.

[Billericay]

Is it just me but does having to watch the Hawks advertise SWISSE in the breaks makes me angry.

[Mel_C]

Can't believe there has only been 5 scoring shots from both sides. Both teams are rushing their kicks around the ground.

The Richards incident looked nasty at the ground. Hope he is ok.

Does anyone know what Tippett was being treated for?

[Ludwig]

Parker's down period doesn't look to be improving. Hawthorn's kicking is so much better than ours.

[Wardy]

Should have been about 10 holding the balls paid so far - going to be a very uneventful game at this rate.
I noticed that too - Hawks can hold and hold - nothin - us for a second - pinged!! ????

[Wardy]

heeeney!!!!

[dejavoodoo44]

I noticed that too - Hawks can hold and hold - nothin - us for a second - pinged!! ????

Yes I was wondering when we were going to get a holding the ball too.

[Wardy]

im not getting the hype with Mitchell - and what's with Parker ??

[Foreign Legion]

Grundy responding well to the criticism

[Wardy]

Rampe has improved out of sight.

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C'mon boys keep it going!!!

[Daisi]

Oh what a scrappy game...Loving Buddy's little fake outs...but too many missed opportunities..Hawthorn will come back

[longmile]

Defence is huge today.
Inspiring stuff

[bloodspirit]

Rampe has improved out of sight.



Ramps is bloody wonderful. We knew what we were doing when we re-signed him for another 4, was it last year?

[Wardy]

Go Benny!!!

[Daisi]

Benny is showing his experience..waiting for the fall of the ball from the big guys

[Foreign Legion]

Rampe is easily our most improved this year.

[Billericay]

The Heeney and Rampe show!

[WauchopeAnalyst]

No team playing from Parker. Burnt Lloyd in both defence and attack. Trying hard but not looking.

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[Billericay]

OK and Buddy!!!

[bloodspirit]

Since when is Bud taking contested marks like this!?

[Wardy]

Keep it going lads!!!

[bloodspirit]

Since when is Bud taking contested marks like this!? Loving it!!

[Billericay]

I think Parker tends to try to do a bit too much with the ball

[Wardy]

How come the Hawks can hold onto our guys when they don't have the ball??

[bloodspirit]

Sinclair doing better than he has recently, I reckon.

[Daisi]

Wow...Buddy is amazing...I think we really miss Josh when he's not there...At the last SCG game, one of the young blokes got crunched in a tackle and laid on the ground in pain for some time...Josh approached him, stood over him with arms folded and said....something...Young bloke popped back up to his feet, limped away...

[Billericay]

I was literally about to write 'Rohan is officially listed as missing' and then ...

[longmile]

Rohan alla Jetta 2012 thanks to Buddy.
Amazing

[dejavoodoo44]

Nice bit of thinking by Buddy there!

[mcs]

Stupid play there to play on after the htb call on paddle pop.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

But normal service. Free in back 50, so play on and handball to pressure and free for them and goal.

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[dejavoodoo44]

Hawthorn goal from some very poor umpiring.

[Mel_C]

That's bull@@@@...I'm at the game and the advantage shouldn't have been paid as we were under pressure. Cost us a goal.

[longmile]

Sam Mitchell is a @@@@wit

[Wardy]

Josh Kennedy is making some silly mistakes

[Wardy]

TRIP!!!!!

[longmile]

two obvious frees missed by the umpire
god i hate the hawks

[bloodsbigot]

#freekickhawthorn #nofreekicksydney

SERIOUSLY HOW MUCH TIME DO THE UMPIRES WANT TO GIVE THE HAWKS BEFORE THEY'RE PENALIZED FOR HOLDING THE BALL? @@@@

[dejavoodoo44]

Sam Mitchell is a @@@@wit
I think the correct term is psychopath.

[Legs Akimbo]

This umpiring thing...getting beyond a joke. 5 minute period of play reckon they missed 4 obvious frees to Sydney

[treespirit]

two obvious frees missed by the umpire
god i hate the hawks
Ditto. Ditto. Ditto

[Daisi]

How come Hawks can trip Buddy and no free kick? He could have got seriously injured in that play...

[Blue Sun]

I haven't been watching the game, but the Swannies must be playing better than last week. Who has been best on ground so far?

[Billericay]

#freekickhawthorn #nofreekicksydney

Every time the Swans kick in short it gets called 'play on not 15' but Hawthorn can kick it 2 feet and its a mark

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Cheats can ignore free kicks for one team and claim they cant see it..

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[mcs]

two obvious frees missed by the umpire
god i hate the hawks

Nicholls at it again after his awful efforts last week. Clear free to Tippett in the goal square, and a clear trip on Buddy as well.

So far so good but you get that feeling the Hawks will get on a roll at some stage, and we will need to grimly hang on. Some good footy interspersed with a lot of awful footy as well from both sides.

Love how Heeney goes about his footy - he really is a superb young player. Rohan having some impact as well, and Buddy is in fantastic form.

Come on Swans - keep it up in the 2nd half - Hawks are most definitely there for the taking tonight, but we have to play 4 good quarters of footy, not 2 or 3.

[Daisi]

I get very angry when umpires fail to protect players from potentially injurious illegal play....

[longmile]

Nicholls at it again after his awful efforts last week. Clear free to Tippett in the goal square, and a clear trip on Buddy as well.

So far so good but you get that feeling the Hawks will get on a roll at some stage, and we will need to grimly hang on. Some good footy interspersed with a lot of awful footy as well from both sides.

Love how Heeney goes about his footy - he really is a superb young player. Rohan having some impact as well, and Buddy is in fantastic form.

Come on Swans - keep it up in the 2nd half - Hawks are most definitely there for the taking tonight, but we have to play 4 good quarters of footy, not 2 or 3.

Lets hope these 2 missed free kicks dont come into play then

[mcs]

How come Hawks can trip Buddy and no free kick? He could have got seriously injured in that play...

Nicholls said 'he was on the ground'. Yes he may have been, but that is no excuse for a clear trip. Imo should get cited for it, but no doubt he won't - made no attempt to actually tackle, just to kick out with his legs to trip.

[Mug Punter]

Some terrible umpiring there.

Parker having a shocker, hope he tears it up second half

[dejavoodoo44]

Nicholls said 'he was on the ground'. Yes he may have been, but that is no excuse for a clear trip. Imo should get cited for it, but no doubt he won't - made no attempt to actually tackle, just to kick out with his legs to trip.

Possibly starting to reassess my previous positive thoughts on Nicholls?

[Billericay]

The Hawks will definitely come at some point. I remember a game at the SCG 3 or 4 years ago. Swans were 7 goals up and my mate went to get beers. By the time he'd got back Hawks were level.

Best so far:

Hanners
Rampe
Heeney
Buddy
The late Reg
Tippo
and I think Mitchell is doing a great job on Mitchell

[mcs]

Possibly starting to reassess my previous positive thoughts on Nicholls?

I never had positive thought for him - always been an inconsistent umpire. He absolutely crucified us last week (Grundy in particular) and giving a fair share of poor calls this week as well.

[bloodspirit]

Thoughts and prayers for AJ - apparently due to have his latest knee reco this week.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Can you please explain, was that the umpire or Tom on the mark.

This is the mark from Gunston.

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Why is Tom there. Tom or Umpire.

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Cost a goal.

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[Blue Sun]

Thoughts and prayers for AJ - apparently due to have his latest knee reco this week.

Another reco? When did that happen?

[mcs]

Can you please explain, was that the umpire or Tom on the mark.

This is the mark from Gunston.

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Why is Tom there. Tom or Umpire.

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Cost a goal.

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Nice spot Wauchope. Not that it would of made a lot of difference probably, was a very long kick from Gunston.

[Wardy]

Nick smith is doing a good job on Cyril which I'm sure is giving Bruce the @@@@s!

[bloodspirit]

Smooch doing the job on Cyril! Bruce McAvaney managed to say Cyril doesn't have a great record against us. Why do you think that is?! It's thanks, in large part, to Nick Smith.

Hawks fans mustn't be enjoying this - and that only makes it sweeter. Crossing everything for victory. If we can finish it off this will well and truly make up for losing to the Tiges by a point.

Let's go Bloods!!

[i'm-uninformed2]

Am still getting over the smarts and kick from Buddy for the Rohan goal

[mcs]

Smooch doing the job on Cyril! Bruce McAvaney managed to say Cyril doesn't have a great record against us. Why do you think that is?! It's thanks, in large part, to Nick Smith.

Hawks fans mustn't be enjoying this - and that only makes it sweeter. Crossing everything for victory. If we can finish it off this will well and truly make up for losing to the Tiges by a point.

Let's go Bloods!!

Bruce already preparing the excuses at half time if Cyril doesn't do anything so far. Human glove has been superb so far.

Come on Swannies - go on with it in the second half please!

[undy]

Every time the Swans kick in short it gets called 'play on not 15' but Hawthorn can kick it 2 feet and its a mark
Yep, there were a few 10m kicks they got away with before we got pinged for what looked like a much longer kick deep in defence

[Wardy]

Yeah keep it going - Sam Mitchell will get clobbered eventually due to his filth - Gibson is taking up where Hodge left off in the narky dirty play department.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Nice spot Wauchope. Not that it would of made a lot of difference probably, was a very long kick from Gunston.
5m off the mark and one of the shortest on the mark. If that was the umpire then that proves cheating or otherwise totally poor holding the mark.

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[treespirit]

Am still getting over the smarts and kick from Buddy for the Rohan goal
They aren't. I'm getting regular messages! [emoji2]

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[Hotpotato]

Sinclair needs to take those marks at this level .
Keep it up Swans .

[bloodspirit]

Something that's really annoying me is the way the commentators, from about 5 minutes in to the 1st quarter, have been saying the Hawks are looking "a bit flat" in an apparent reference to Roughy. Going out of their way to make excuses - whether or not that is the case. Just because they like that "Awwwhhh" factor, or think (or know) it rates.

Certainly wish Rough all the best. He is one of the less offensive Hawks.

[treespirit]

They aren't. I'm getting regular messages! [emoji2]

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Woods. Replied to wrong message but be assured Hawks fans are not having a good time so far.

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[Wardy]

Here we go the frees all for hawthorn. - and now the crap begins !!

[longmile]

free kick hawthorn in full affect
an absolute joke

[aardvark]

Weak as piss Macca!

[bloodspirit]

And even if he weren't.

[bloodsbigot]

AND THE UMPIRES GET THEM BACK INTO IT EARLY IN THE THIRD. LOL. THE UMPIRES ARE A @@@@ING JOKE

[Wardy]

Don't panic swans!!

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@@@@!!!

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Schmidt hates us and Nichols holds the No1 ticket for HFC..

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[bloodsbigot]

THAT IS SUCH @@@@ING BULL@@@@. HAWKS ALWAYS GET MOMENTUM WITH @@@@ING FREE KICKS

[bloodspirit]

What a waste!!!!

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Cmon Harry anywhere but there..

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[Wardy]

Shot clock is a joke

[treespirit]

Same as last week. Our bad kicking plus dodgy umpiring has them in the game.

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[Wardy]

What in the hell is up with Parker

[bloodspirit]

Again loving Mills' determination to make amends for his every error.

Hanners kicking hasn't been a highlight this quarter

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Another free (high on Jones) gone begging!

[Daisi]

When in Melbourne we have to be ruthless...just keep pouring on the goals, because the umpires will always keep the Victorian teams in the game..The umpires will always positively respond to the big pro Victorian crowds

[Wardy]

Thank god for Rampe!!!

[mcs]

Again loving Mills' determination to make amends for his every error.

Hanners kicking hasn't been a highlight this quarter

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Another free (high on Jones) gone begging!

Arrrgh jump for the ball you donkeys!

[Billericay]

Rohan has been a good in tonight!

[Wardy]

And Gary!!!!

[bloodspirit]

What a night out and return to the big league for Gazza!!! Love him.

[dejavoodoo44]

The ginger ninja has done a few useful things tonight, hasn't he.

[longmile]

Awesome by mcveigh

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Square up

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[barry]

Mchack.

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Hartung is keepin us in the game

[bloodspirit]

Why no free for Sink's tackle?

[longmile]

Why is Mills on Gunston???

[bloodspirit]

Tonight's the best I've seen from Sinclair I reckon.

[Billericay]

Hanners marked that, surely

[longmile]

McVeigh is terrible

[dejavoodoo44]

Mark to Hannebery not paid, goal to Hawthorn. Grrrrr.

[mcs]

Clear mark to hanners ffs!

[undy]

Tonight's the best I've seen from Sinclair I reckon.
Nah, he was playing this well before he was injured and sticking a few more marks.

[Wardy]

Loving Rampes effort!

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Geez Bruce we get it you want Hawks to win

[undy]

Nah, he was playing this well before he was injured and sticking a few more marks.
He is getting to the right spot a lot.

[bloodsbigot]

Listen to those piece of @@@@ Hawthorn supporters booing when they don't get their precious free kicks.

[goods78]

Tonight's the best I've seen from Sinclair I reckon.

Sarcasm?

[mcs]

Arrrgghhh what a frustrating quarter. Couldn't get hold of the ball at all, and very wasteful when we did. Not helped by some usual 'lets help Hawthorn along' umpiring in there as well - that last one was a killer, Hanners clearly marked it then up the other end for a goal.

Come on Swans, find a way to lift - a win tonight would be a huge boost, no matter how we get it.

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Listen to those piece of @@@@ Hawthorn supporters booing when they don't get their previous free kicks.

We shouldn't be surprised - they are a bunch of mongrels at the best of time. Umps have well and truly bought them back into the contest, combined with our ineptness.

[Mel_C]

That Sam Mitchell (aka the Twerp) is a dirty @@@@@. He hit Tommy off the ball. Can't stand their team of snipers.

Come on let's not fall asleep like last week. Need to be switched on from the bounce and need to stick our tackles.

Have to admit at the ground it did look like Hanners dropped the mark.

[bloodspirit]

Just looking at the Fantasy stats. They have Tippett and Ramps equal first. I have no problem with that. But not sure I see Parker as being our 3rd most valuable player so far. Heeney was a bit quiet

[Billericay]

Swans just need to get their hands on the ball and the rest will follow

[bloodspirit]

...that quarter - otherwise been quality, as ever

[WauchopeAnalyst]

The big test is now. Have to win to prove that the moment is ours..

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[goods78]

Grundy and Rampe have been huge tonight. Last week was an anomaly. They would be in the AA team ATM if they were Vic players.

[barry]

McVeigh is terrible
Done nothing. Hopefully the game has slowed down enough in the final quarter so he can get a kick.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Ramps was holding his arm...

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[Wardy]

Here we go again!!!

[bloodsbigot]

AHHHHHH THERE IT IS. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

#FREEKICKHAWTHORN

[Wardy]

Wasn't that kicking in danger ?

[Billericay]

Wasn't that kicking in danger ?

I thought so too, but side angle it wasn't

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Under pressure, we fumble most times, so frustrating.

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[Wardy]

Why wasn't Rioli pinged he wasn't looking at the ball!

[Luke Shannon]

Grundy and Rampe have been huge tonight. Last week was an anomaly. They would be in the AA team ATM if they were Vic players.

Great call.

[Hotpotato]

To keep Hawks to 5 majors in three terms is very impressive .
Buddy needs to come back into it .

[Wardy]

Fair enough. But Rioli should he been done

[Billericay]

Cmon Swannies. How good was Heeney then?

[mcs]

Oh ffs dawks fans why were they booing - a clear mark on replay from tippett

[bloodspirit]

Did he actually touch that??? Is that why they played on so fast to avoid the score review??

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that was an @@@@@@g goal!!

[longmile]

Hewett playing his best game amazing stuff

[Wardy]

You buddy beauty!!!

[Billericay]

Agree, he's having a great game

[undy]

I was just going to ask if Buddy had gone to the bar with Ted :)

[bloodspirit]

We wouldn't know Buddy was there if he didn't produce some magic or boot a goal from the centre square! :-)

[mcs]

Budddddyyyyyy!

[Luke Shannon]

Wow Buddy. At 1.2 million a year it's a bargain.

[dejavoodoo44]

Not sure that I have seen a better kick from outside fifty than Buddy at the moment.

[Billericay]

Why was that not 50m against Mitchell?

[bloodspirit]

Wow Buddy. At 1.2 million a year it's a bargain.

We'll definitely be laughing if he plays his full 9 years, even if his output declines a bit.

[Foreign Legion]

Hewett stepping up big time!

[Wardy]

Jesus jones!!!

[undy]

Have the commentators mentioned that we've played most of the game a player down

[Billericay]

Ive never seen 50m paid at a kick in before

[undy]

Ive never seen 50m paid at a kick in before
That was rzor Ray like

[gossipcom]

Hewett's definitely playing his best game so far.

Buddy!

[Wardy]

I love that man Buddy!!!

[longmile]

Umpiring been bad on both sides. Social media gonna go into hyperdrive

[mcs]

That was rzor Ray like

Ridiculous free to give but he did give cyril 3 massive warnings.

And i repeat BUDDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!

[dejavoodoo44]

The Buddy bullet strikes again!

[Luke Shannon]

Buddy is being underpaid. Give him a raise.

[Billericay]

Gutted - i tipped the Hawks

[gossipcom]

Gutted - i tipped the Hawks
There's still time for us to lose it *sigh*

[Wardy]

Cmon boys - get it back and make the commentators choke on their words!!!

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Buddy is being underpaid. Give him a raise.
I'd have his children - if he'd let me - and if I was 20 years younger!!????????

[dejavoodoo44]

Possibly the silliest deliberate call this season.

[gossipcom]

Now air-swings are kicked deliberate OOB.

[Billericay]

Possibly the silliest deliberate call this season.

yep

[mcs]

What an absurd call against rohan - we may as well move to last touch gives the ball away.

[Billericay]

Hewett tackle on Lewis

[gossipcom]

And this is how you play out the last minute - unlike last week. LMAO.

[mcs]

Well done bloods - thats what we wanted to see in response to last week!!!!

[Wardy]

YAY YAY YAY!!!!

[barry]

Heeney is amazing

[bloodspirit]

Alright!

Feels much better than our corresponding victory last year when there were all the boos. Suck it up Hawks fans!

[gossipcom]

Heeney stop trying to take a speculator on the siren. Massive kudos to the Swans players at the end of the game. No massive over-celebrating, etc.

[bloodspirit]

Heeney is amazing

Heeney IS amazing. +1

[bloodsbigot]

A lackluster win but I'll take it.

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Heeney is a golden God.

[Industrial Fan]

No pleasing some people bloodsbigot

[ugg]

Our defence really held up well tonight, particularly after copping some heat for the ease of which Richmond scored last week

Rampe and Grundy were magnificent.

[Billericay]

[QUOTE=bloodsbigot;696858]A lackluster win but I'll take it.

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Seriously I thought the Swans were fantastic. Soaked up some frightening Hawthorn pressure, particularly in the 3rd Quarter and several players stood up, particularly:

Heeney
Rampe
Hewett
Grundy (after last week)
Mitchell (ditto) smashed his namesake
Tippett was huge
Lloyd too

[Industrial Fan]

Really impressed by Hewett. He's going to get a lot of htb frees paid his way and a lot of over the shoulder as well. Really composed and up for the big game.

[treespirit]

Thank goodness!

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[Mug Punter]

Very good win tonight.

Rohan did some brilliant things, Hanners was good again and Mitchell did a great job on his sniper namesake. Rampe and Reg were huge at the back.

Good to see Hewett stand up when the going got tough as I have felt he's gone missing before but not today.

Mills had a torrid time out there against a classy opponent, perhaps too big a job at this stage of his career but he did some good things and never have up. Hard to believe the kid is a teenager.

Benny again showed how important he is for the team

And Buddy just gave us the touch of class we need at the end.

No real negatives for me except Ted's concussion which didn't look too bad but I'm glad we put his welfare first (as we always do), I could see us erring on the side of caution here and certainly perhaps wearing headgear for the rest of his career.

Jones seems more and more self assured as a senior footballer and I'd say he's not going to play much NEAFL going forward.

McVeigh was a bit of a concern but I just think he is feeling his way back into form but I'm sure the usual critics will be ion his case.

Hard to see how anyone can be dropped for next week really

[Billericay]

Really impressed by Hewitt. He's going to get a lot of htb frees paid his way and a lot of over the shoulder as well. Really composed and up for the big game.

Hewett wasn't afraid to carry the ball through traffic and laid some great tackles.

[56-14]

Another big tick for Tippett.
How good is Heeney going to be!
To ScottH - I'd rather Hewett/Lloyd/Jones than your preferred Hiscox!

[longmile]

Alot of players I had question marks over were awesome tonight. Hewett was huge.
Tippett is a star, and somehow underrated by all of us.
Rohan did some amazing things when it mattered, lets hope he doesnt go missing in the next few weeks.
Only player I'm still suspect on is McVeigh. Seems slow and his decision making seems shot.

[barry]

Mchack has been back in the side for a few weeks now and looks lost.

[Wardy]

Has Wayne Carey had his eyes done???

[Billericay]

Mark Stevens saying Teddy may miss next week with concussion...

[gossipcom]

Teddy may miss next week due to the concussion rule. Honestly with his history (like Tippett's) I'd be resting him even if it is against the Roos since his welfare is more important, etc.

[undy]

Has Wayne Carey had his eyes done???
I think that's a cybernetic Wayne. They call the feeling you get when looking at an almost realistic robot the 'uncanny valley'

[dejavoodoo44]

Really impressed by Hewett. He's going to get a lot of htb frees paid his way and a lot of over the shoulder as well. Really composed and up for the big game.
Yes, I was really impressed by his composure in heavy traffic tonight. Mills was also making a lot of good decisions under pressure as well.

[Blue Sun]

It was great to see Kirk behind the players when they were singing the song. Back in the red and white where he belongs. Tom Mitchell was incredible, held Sam Mitchell to bugger all disposals and racked up 20 or so himself. Awesome stuff.

Re Buddy, its a little scary that opposition have to be actively thinking about where he is if a Swan has a mark 60-70m from goal. Bizarre that the biggest danger is behind rather than a lead up mark closer goal. He makes those goals look easy too. Truly a massive weapon to have.

[bloodsbigot]

No pleasing some people bloodsbigot

We always beat Hawthorn without Hodge. I'm happy, but would really like to see us steamroll them ala Giants.

Also, preferably a win at the right end of the season. We did the exact same thing last season. Now let's see them beat these scumbags at the SCG.

[Billericay]

Very good win tonight.
Mills had a torrid time out there against a classy opponent, perhaps too big a job at this stage of his career but he did some good things and never have up. Hard to believe the kid is a teenager.

I didn't mind Horse leaving Mills on Gunston at this stage of his career. Good experience and it didn't cost us the game.

[Hotpotato]

Alot of players I had question marks over were awesome tonight. Hewett was huge.
Tippett is a star, and somehow underrated by all of us.
Rohan did some amazing things when it mattered, lets hope he doesnt go missing in the next few weeks.
Only player I'm still suspect on is McVeigh. Seems slow and his decision making seems shot.

McVeigh is fine...
Sinclair struggled under the blowtorch of a big occasion .

[gossipcom]

Horse to Heeney - try not to injure yourself by taking a speccie with 5 secs to go. :D j/k

[Billericay]

It was great to see Kirk behind the players when they were singing the song. Back in the red and white where he belongs.

How much of an influence has Brett Kirk had? He was the heart and soul of the Swans when he was a player

[Mug Punter]

I didn't mind Horse leaving Mills on Gunston at this stage of his career. Good experience and it didn't cost us the game.

I agree, he is getting the ultimate on-the-job training at the moment. He did OK on an elite opponent and never dropped his head

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How much of an influence has Brett Kirk had? He was the heart and soul of the Swans when he was a player

Our most important signing by a mile

[mcs]

Lets hope that is the breakout game for Hewett - he is composed, creates space and time for himself, and can seriously use the ball. The guy can play, and he will hopefully take huge confidence from tonight. I've seen him rip it up at NEAFL level, and I think he can do it at AFL level as well.

Great to have Rohan back. Didn't get much of the ball, but you can see the difference having that extra quicker player up forward in the team can make. Needs to find more of the footy, but can make a real difference for us.

Our back 6 were superb tonight, even after the early loss of Teddy. Grundy was immense - a good recovery after a poor game last week (or just a reversion to his superb form for most of the season), Rampe was great and Mills continues to develop.

Lloyd continues to grow as a player as well - he played well tonight, which was something he needed to do in a big game. Harry C is beginning to find more of the ball as well, and finally getting a harder edge to his footy - I liked a lot of his work tonight!

Kudos also to Mitchell - did a superb job on the grub, and won that contest very well, a big win and a string to his bow we haven't seen so much of it. A really good performance and really shut the grub out of the game.

Finally Tippo - much maligned by so many but did his role to the absolute 't' tonight - a superb game.

Oh and yeh there is that guy called Buddy - words don't describe what he can do when he is in form like this. He doesn't need to be in the game all night when he can pull out what he did late in the game. He is the key to our Premiership aspirations - if he is fit and firing, even if as a whole we don't play well, we can find ways to win the close ones!

Cheer Cheer - just what the doctor ordered after last week's meek surrender!

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How much of an influence has Brett Kirk had? He was the heart and soul of the Swans when he was a player

Absolutely - it is really becoming clear that he is doing more than his fair share in reinjecting some 'bloods' culture back into our club - after what could have been terminal damage at the end of 2014. So great to have him back at the club!

[i'm-uninformed2]

Our 25 and under midfield. Hanners Mitchell Parker Mills Hewett Heeney. Oh boy. Also thought Harry did some hard work tonight

[mcs]

McVeigh is fine...
Sinclair struggled under the blowtorch of a big occasion .

Sinclair is doing a lot right. If his hands stop letting him down and he starts clunking some marks again, he will be more than playing his role. It is reassuring he is getting in the right positions, and he can lay a tackle too. I like him and think he will be a solid servant for us.

[Luke Shannon]

Very good win tonight.

Rohan did some brilliant things, Hanners was good again and Mitchell did a great job on his sniper namesake. Rampe and Reg were huge at the back.

Good to see Hewett stand up when the going got tough as I have felt he's gone missing before but not today.

Mills had a torrid time out there against a classy opponent, perhaps too big a job at this stage of his career but he did some good things and never have up. Hard to believe the kid is a teenager.

Benny again showed how important he is for the team

And Buddy just gave us the touch of class we need at the end.

No real negatives for me except Ted's concussion which didn't look too bad but I'm glad we put his welfare first (as we always do), I could see us erring on the side of caution here and certainly perhaps wearing headgear for the rest of his career.

Jones seems more and more self assured as a senior footballer and I'd say he's not going to play much NEAFL going forward.

McVeigh was a bit of a concern but I just think he is feeling his way back into form but I'm sure the usual critics will be ion his case.

Hard to see how anyone can be dropped for next week really

People won't like this, but Ted going out gave our defence more speed and agility that matched up better on what the Hawks provided. He will have a match up next week as North have Petrie, Waite and Brown.

Mills has excellent closing speed for a defender and ended up matched up on Gunston a couple of times. He came through that baptism very well.

Hewitt has class, time and poise. Delivered well by foot.

Rohan showed why he will never be given up on. Great come back game.

Tippett was pivotal and Rampe must now be in all Australian contention.

The Hawks really are a triumvirate of Hodge, Roughead and Mitchiell. Two of those guys were out and Mitchell was quiet. If all three of those guys had played then we would have lost.

[Billericay]

Cmon boys - get it back and make the commentators choke on their words!!!

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I'd have his children - if he'd let me - and if I was 20 years younger!!????????

There's no player in the AFL I'd rather watch. I really didn't know to think we he joined... doubted him, but now I love having Buddy in the team and can't believe we have the AFL most exciting player at the SCG every other week

[mcs]

We always beat Hawthorn without Hodge. I'm happy, but would really like to see us steamroll them ala Giants.

Also, preferably a win at the right end of the season. We did the exact same thing last season. Now let's see them beat these scumbags at the SCG.

Yep we need to beat them again when they come to the SCG - needs to build some real confidence that we can roll them when it matters at the end of the year. For I think the team that can (if any can) will win the flag.

[Billericay]

I agree, he is getting the ultimate on-the-job training at the moment. He did OK on an elite opponent and never dropped his head

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Our most important signing by a mile

So glad he's spending no more time with EVIL Ross Lyon

[i'm-uninformed2]

Our 25 and under midfield. Hanners Mitchell Parker Mills Hewett Heeney. Oh boy. Also thought Harry did some hard work tonight and forgot Lloyd.

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And what did we pay Buddy? Double it

[0918330512]

Wow Buddy. At 1.2 million a year it's a bargain.

$10M for 9 years is $1.1M/season

[i'm-uninformed2]

Once again folks stand and applaud Nick Smith Cyril who?

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Rohan - Great marking on the lead, or kick over the back and turn it to a race.
Hewett - This why you need real footy players, smart, great decisions and disposals
Buddy - just being buddy
Mills - on Gunston, great lesson, but give it everything and brave and will play 250 games.
Heeney - just a gun, would we needed.
Smooch - Blanketed Rioli and no Bruce stroking himself
Laidler - This is why he plays every game, courageously every contest
Ramps & Reg - just great, nothing more
Tippett - A grader, as Ruck and killed them and good forward
Hannebery -our heart and soul
JPK - Covered Mitchell with Titch and a warrior
Titch - mitchell beat him early but after q1 just 4 more possessions
Parker - got it alot but made no impact
Lloyd - played as our link man, solid game.
Sinclair - just needs to toughen up, weak efforts, and take your marks
Benny - great as small forward but decisons in the mids will always with problems
Kizza and Macca - just fair games and some dodgy skills and I not think they will ever dominate their men or games.
Jones - some very good a little bad and couple of ugly. Just one free and 4 tackles. Maybe needs to play as tagger or in mids and cracking at the ball.
Harry - got 19 posssies but can't tell what he did. I think he was playing similar to Lloyd.



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[0918330512]

He's already the Bondi billionaire

[troyjones2525]

Great win all round from the boys tonight! The umpiring was horrible (for both sides) and with Ted missing for three qtrs the backline really held up. Buddy stood up when it mattered and Joey showed how important an out he was for us last week with his inside work. I'm still not sold on Z. Jones though people! He was missing in the first half and while admittedly better in the 2nd half, I'm not sure that we wouldn't be a better team with either Harry Marsh or Nic Newman back there. Hard to change a winning formula though so we'll see!

[Billericay]

Once again folks stand and applaud Nick Smith Cyril who?

Smith killed Cyril until Rioli moved into the centre when he was very dangerous. Would be interesting to see a Swans player with serious speed e.g. Rohan play out of the centre square - what he can do if he gets the ball in the middle

[Luke Shannon]

$10M for 9 years is $1.1M/season

I'm sure you have the exact numbers, but wasn't his first two years under the 1.1 mark for salary cap purposes. It's propably 1.2 or 1.3 a year from here until the end of his contract.

[Mug Punter]

People won't like this, but Ted going out gave our defence more speed and agility that matched up better on what the Hawks provided. He will have a match up next week as North have Petrie, Waite and Brown.

Mills has excellent closing speed for a defender and ended up matched up on Gunston a couple of times. He came through that baptism very well.

Hewitt has class, time and poise. Delivered well by foot.

Rohan showed why he will never be given up on. Great come back game.

Tippett was pivotal and Rampe must now be in all Australian contention.

The Hawks really are a triumvirate of Hodge, Roughead and Mitchiell. Two of those guys were out and Mitchell was quiet. If all three of those guys had played then we would have lost.

Father time is just catching up with Ted, it happens to us all but I do think we will resist the temptation, and I hope he does too, to go on one year too far.

Agree re Rohan. I have a bad habit of under-rating players who have been out injured (I was a bit negative on McGlynn too) but that was a brilliant breakout game. I tend to see him a rebounding half back flanker but with his speed you'd have to consider him up forward with Heeney and Buddy.

Rampe is definitely in AA form, his development is nothing short of amazing. Agree re Tippett too, he is an absolute workhorse and he contributed on the scoreboard too.

Hewett is still young and I expect he will still continue to drift a bit in and out of games for the next year or so but there is something there that is quality. I think it is his composure more than anything, can see him being a 10 year player for us

[Blue Sun]

He's already the Bondi billionaire

It always puzzles me how Eddy "Chins" McGuire refers to Buddy as the Bondi Billionaire, when Chins himself is pulling in an absolute mint. That man makes me sick to my stomach. A blight on the game for sure. But I digress...

Great game from the Swans tonight, a much needed palate cleanser after last weeks effort. So many contributors. But can we beat North next week at home?

[neilfws]

That was terrific wasn't it. I'll take wins like that every day of the week. Great effort from lots of players.

When did Ling turn into such a Hawks fanboy? Too much time hanging around with the others.

[Mug Punter]

I'm sure you have the exact numbers, but wasn't his first two years under the 1.1 mark for salary cap purposes. It's propably 1.2 or 1.3 a year from here until the end of his contract.

It's a staggered deal. You can google the exact details. I think years 1 and 2 were $800K and then this year and next he is about $1.2 a year. He spikes at $1.8m a year in years 5 and 6 I think and then tails off at the end a bit for the last three years.

A calculated gamble on the salary cap going north which it certainly will, we just don't know by how much

[707]

Saw a real footballer who came of age tonight who is just going to add to our midfield depth - Hewett. Watch him closely, just slicesc through traffic and composed, he is going to be a very good player.

Also want those idiots who wanted to drop Reg to put their hands up and hang their heads - idiots!

[mcs]

Harry - got 19 posssies but can't tell what he did. I think he was playing similar to Lloyd.



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Harry is gradually finding his spot in the team. He isnt a player that ever is going to light up the highlights but he is ever improving.

As for nick smith - he is such a great contraceptive pill for bruce and cyrils ongoing love in! He was superb on him when cyril went up forward

[0918330512]

I'm sure you have the exact numbers, but wasn't his first two years under the 1.1 mark for salary cap purposes. It's propably 1.2 or 1.3 a year from here until the end of his contract.

Here you go. Without putting his contract in front of you, will this do?

Nocookies | The Australian (http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/afl-clears-buddys-10m-move/story-fnca0u4y-1226735072406)

[Luke Shannon]

Father time is just catching up with Ted, it happens to us all but I do think we will resist the temptation, and I hope he does too, to go on one year too far.

Agree re Rohan. I have a bad habit of under-rating players who have been out injured (I was a bit negative on McGlynn too) but that was a brilliant breakout game. I tend to see him a rebounding half back flanker but with his speed you'd have to consider him up forward with Heeney and Buddy.

Rampe is definitely in AA form, his development is nothing short of amazing. Agree re Tippett too, he is an absolute workhorse and he contributed on the scoreboard too.

Hewett is still young and I expect he will still continue to drift a bit in and out of games for the next year or so but there is something there that is quality. I think it is his composure more than anything, can see him being a 10 year player for us

Mug, as an avid viewer of the Sydney AFL scene, did Rampe destroy the amature players during his 2012 season with UNSW?

Seems like he is a brilliant athlete at AFL level. He would have been Usain Bolt at Sydney AFL level.

[longmile]

Our 25 and under midfield. Hanners Mitchell Parker Mills Hewett Heeney. Oh boy. Also thought Harry did some hard work tonight

Reading that all those players are under 25 makes me so happy. Seems like we have a very bright future without even considering bottoming out. Good times to be a Swans supporter

[jono2707]

At least one of Reg and Rampe deserve Brownlow votes tonight, if not both. If neither get any it'd be a travesty of the highest order.

A great effort from both of them tonight.

[Billericay]

At least one of Reg and Rampe deserve Brownlow votes tonight, if not both. If neither get any it'd be a travesty of the highest order.

A great effort from both of them tonight.

Rampe not Reg. Rampe would have to be in our top 5 players

[MightyBloods]

Saw a real footballer who came of age tonight who is just going to add to our midfield depth - Hewett. Watch him closely, just slicesc through traffic and composed, he is going to be a very good player.

Also want those idiots who wanted to drop Reg to put their hands up and hang their heads - idiots!

Agree. We saw the arrival of Hewett tonight. A serious young player.

[longmile]

Rampe is seriously impressive at the moment. Thought he was our best defender last year and has only proved it this year.

[Ludwig]

The guys who cost us our COLA and the trading restrictions, Tippo and Buddy, are showing that it was all worth it. And the academy draft revisions - Heeney - worth it. They've been fantastic all year.

Hewett finally shows why I've been singing his praises since he walked through the door. Jake Lloyd has bounced back strongly after a couple of sluggish games.

Only negative for me was Sinclair. If he can't improve his marking he'll drop down to our last ruck option fairly quickly. Naismith and Nankervis can both ruck, mark the ball well and kick goals.

We still have work to do on our centre clearances and need to move the ball much faster out of defense. There were plenty of times we held the ball in our defense with players were running into open space only to kick the ball to a contest.