Match Day Thread Rnd 15 V Melbourne. MCG 19.50 pm.

[aardvark]

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Dees coming off their third six day break and a trip to the west with many injuries. Swans by 37. Go Swannies!

[707]

Dees are depleted and we are very close to best 22 on the park, if we are serious with ourselves, we should win this without a close finish drama.

Stakes have rarely been higher given our precarious ladder position, this is a BIG 8 point game, no excuses, just need a fair run with umpires, I'll spew if they pluck out pathetic in front of goal frees for the Dees like they have against us in the last couple of games.

Win, win well then focus onto Manuka tomorrow.

[Markwebbos]

I'd really like this to be a comfortable win! Swans by 22

[Matty10]

It is a tough prospect from so far back to keep the hype and intensity in check for the rest of the season. With this game (due to injury, etc.) there is also the weight of expectation. Melbourne have been playing very well and it will still be our best fielded 22 against their best fielded 22, I just hope we can gain command early and maintain it throughout the match.

It has been such a strange season in terms of predicting results, particularly if you said in a game that is 5 v 10 on the ladder that 10 would be the favourite. Fingers crossed - go Bloods!

[snajik]

Hawthorn were depleted too when we played them, so wariness is an ongoing mindset for me.

Swans by 3. Gary Rohan kicks the final goal with 12 seconds left on the clock just to mess with our heads and hearts.

[ernie koala]

The Demons may be depleted, but they are in great form and have great belief....

This will be a real test for the Swannies.

Swans by 9

[Blue Sun]

Beautiful day here in Melbourne (for the moment, anyway). No rain forecast for tonight either. Hoping the boys can bring the manic pressure with Buddy kicking a bag after last weeks woes!

[Billericay]

Who are the Demons going to tag tonight? Joey? Hanners? Lloyd?

[Swansongster]

Watching my kids play hockey early but should be there soon after quarter time.

Alas, the game will be over by then.

Buddy to score four in the first quarter.

:redface:

[Thunder Shaker]

Beautiful day here in Melbourne (for the moment, anyway). No rain forecast for tonight either.
No rain forecast, but it will be the coldest night of the year so far in Melbourne. It's getting down to 1 degree or so with some suburbs forecast to go below zero and widespread frosts. Bring scarves and beanies and rug up.

[stevoswan]

I think it's about time our boys made a real statement........Swans by 30+

[Nico]

No rain but 8.8 degrees right now, getting down to -1 in the morning. Might get a bit dewy.

[longmile]

Swans by 4 goals

[Daisi]

I hope they're wearing the good sticky boots tonight...no slips and slides like last week please...

[longmile]

Bruce needs to stop

[Cheer_Cheer]

Love the banner :-)

[YvonneH]

Love the banner :-)

Was in the bathroom, what did it say?

[Cheer_Cheer]

Was in the bathroom, what did it say?

Something like "Wowee we are back at the G.. Hope we win so we can welcome BT."

[Danzar]

Swans by 27


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[Danzar]

Something like "Wowee we are back at the G.. Hope we win so we can welcome BT."

Shocker of a banner


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[undy]

Sure I just saw Rohan shake hands - hasn't he read the script

[Billericay]

Rohan forward does that mean McVeigh back?

[longmile]

Absolute scum

[Club 80]

Dump from Papley.

[undy]

4 weeks

[Daisi]

Gee Umpires at it already..stealing a free kick from us...idiots...

Can we please kick a goal...

[longmile]

inaccuracy

[Billericay]

aarggh inaccuracy

[Daisi]

Oh and channel 7 at it again too...idiots! Bloody Victorians...(disclaimer swans supporters down there are very nice people...)

[S.S. Bleeder]

Mills done for the game.

[Billericay]

Bugg has to go for 6-8 weeks for that, he should not play again this year

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Rohan needs to kick straight

[mcs]

Bugg has to go for 6-8 weeks for that, he should not play again this year

Yet we are left a player down for the night because of a thuggish action. If there was ever an example of where there should be a send off rule in the AFL, this is it.

WE are so wasteful with our kicking so far - we should be 5 goals + in front at the moment.

[Thunder Shaker]

Mills done for the game.
That was a low act by Bugg ... if he doesn't get at least 4 weeks the AFL has gone soft.

What do we have to do to get a goal? Seven behinds is not good football.

[S.S. Bleeder]

Bugg has to go for 6-8 weeks for that, he should not play again this year

It's actually worse than Houlis, just. This incident is Actually worse than Halls. I don't think Mills was touching him. He'll get 5-6.

[Billericay]

2 goals to 7 behinds. We have to start kicking straight

[longmile]

horrible feeling that our inaccuracy and their thuggery are costing us

[Cheer_Cheer]

Yet we are left a player down for the night because of a thuggish action. If there was ever an example of where there should be a send off rule in the AFL, this is it.

WE are so wasteful with our kicking so far - we should be 5 goals + in front at the moment.

Totally agree.

[Bill Posters]

Swans by 2. 0.50.50 to 8.0.48.

[Billericay]

That free against Naismith - seriously

[S.S. Bleeder]

Fishers the only decent umpire out there. Stevic and McInerney are just so inconsistent.

[mcs]

That free against Naismith - seriously

Bull@@@@.

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Totally agree.

In rugby league, in rugby union, in soccer - every game that is a clear violent action where the player is sent off. The Umpire clearly saw it - it should be exactly the same in our great game. Instead of us getting at least not disadvantaged by being down a player, we now have one very good player out of the game, and the thug that dishes it out can keep playing..... absolute nonsense.

[Daisi]

so anybody still think we have a chance here?

[mcs]

Arrrggghhhhhhh this is going to be nasty at this stage..... Melbourne can't miss and we can't kick one for the life of us. Plus we are player down due to a thug.

[longmile]

finally

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tom bugg is up there with toby greene and stevie j. Absolute scum

[i'm-uninformed2]

If Houli got four for a backhander, that needs to get six

[Club 80]

I was going on about Petracca years ago. Now he is hurting us.

I wanted Petracca at the Swans in partnership with Heeney.

People thought I was nuts. I was willing to lose Hanners for him.

Look at Petracca now. He is a absolute jet.

[Mel_C]

They've had 2 shots both goals and we are 7 behinds. Make that 3 goals.

We are being undisciplined giving away frees when we have the ball.

Bugg is a dirty sniper. He has been doing it since GWS days. It's unfair that Mills is out of the game while he can keep playing.

Finally we kick a goal! Those misses better not cost us.

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[707]

Bugg has spent his whole career doing dog acts so no leniency from the Tribunal, and that folks is behind play, high impact, high contact, deliberate 5-6 weeks.

This will cost us the game, a thug act will cost us this game, maybe our season. One of our most important players misses the whole game and we are down to three on the bench.

Hope Mills doesn't take the inevitable apology call from Bugg.

[undy]

More I think. Similar to Barry's except Barry had been niggled and fouled for a while with no umpire intervention.

[PerthSwannie]

Remember Bazza got 7 weeks..............

[Daisi]

Blah - Ok we haven't played badly and many of our shots were from difficult angles or far out....credit to Thug- life Melbourne for that...

The players have to leave the Bugg Bashing to us, and get it out of their head and just play footy...

[Billericay]

Towers rucking!

[longmile]

Parker looking well

[Billericay]

We HAVE to kick straight

[longmile]

1.10

[Daisi]

Are C7 seriously trying to get Buddy reported? They seem to be trying to get one of our boys reported in retaliation? Cause they are certainly replaying a lot of stuff...

They truly suck as a broadcaster..honestly...

[Billericay]

Swans by 2. 0.50.50 to 8.0.48.

Not impossible the way we are kicking for goal

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Are C7 seriously trying to get Buddy reported? They seem to be trying to get one of our boys reported in retaliation? Cause they are certainly replaying a lot of stuff...

They truly suck as a broadcaster..honestly...

I totally agree. BT seems to have a vendetta

[longmile]

One thing I've learnt about following the Swans all these years, we never ever ever make it easy

[Billericay]

Just need 9 more of those from Buddy

[S.S. Bleeder]

Is plugger actually working with our players or was it just a media opportunity at the start of the season? Anyone know?

[dejavoodoo44]

Goal from a Bugg turnover. Well that's a shame.

[S.S. Bleeder]

Why would Jack call for that?

[Thunder Shaker]

In rugby league, in rugby union, in soccer - every game that is a clear violent action where the player is sent off. The Umpire clearly saw it - it should be exactly the same in our great game. Instead of us getting at least not disadvantaged by being down a player, we now have one very good player out of the game, and the thug that dishes it out can keep playing..... absolute nonsense.
I agree, the AFL really should give umpires the power to eject players from the game for acts of blatant thuggery, and the player cannot be replaced on field for 20 minutes at least.

I'm quite sure this will be discussed in the media.

[Daisi]

Look even I- Sydney born and bred on Rugby league, know that if you knock it out of bounds from a bounce it's a free to the opposition...What a joke these umps are......honestly...just give them the damn game you losers....Am I wrong?

[dejavoodoo44]

Does anyone actually have any idea what holding the ball is anymore?

[Billericay]

nail it Reid

[S.S. Bleeder]

Look even I- Sydney born and bred on Rugby league, know that if you knock it out of bounds from a bounce it's a free to the opposition...What a joke these umps are......honestly...just give them the damn game you losers....Am I wrong?

That's only if it goes out on the full.

[Billericay]

Parker hits the post 2-13
Our luck has to turn

[S.S. Bleeder]

OMFG. We can't buy a goal.

[longmile]

this is bizarre

[Untamed Snark]

The big sticks boys, the big sticks

[Billericay]

About frickin time!!!

[longmile]

Feels like last week

[Billericay]

If we can keep this domination up and kick straight....

[Daisi]

Oh so I am Sydney born and bred after all???? Hahahahahhahahaah still hate those umpires...Not upset to be wrong sometimes..the only way to learn...thank you

[i'm-uninformed2]

Heeney makes it look absurdly easy. It is totally ridiculous

[dejavoodoo44]

Please, just keep getting it to Heeney.

[longmile]

Florent too raw

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Couldn't miss that

[Billericay]

That's more like it Kizza

[Danzar]

Towers, having a great quarter


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[Cheer_Cheer]

One thing Towers does do well is kick out in front of our forwards.

[Daisi]

Wow...what an amazing goal! Let's hope it's not like last week..and that we continue to kill these thugs...on the scoreboard

[India'sDad]

Towers 2 good plays in 3 minutes!

[Billericay]

If we'd kicked 14-4 not 4-14 game would be over

[dejavoodoo44]

Dare I say it, but that goal was made by the kick by our new ruckman, Towers.

[Billericay]

Towers having a good game

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Dare I say it, but that goal was made by the kick by our new ruckman, Towers.

Thanks Ludwig

[i'm-uninformed2]

Jack took a mark back in their goal square then surges forward to ours to kick that. Great stuff

[Billericay]

About time Paps

[Danzar]

Papley, such a reliable goal sneak!


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[S.S. Bleeder]

Gotta hand it to Grundy of late. He's been really cool under pressure and his foot skills have been excellent.

[Billericay]

20th shot on goal

[longmile]

Gotta hand it to Grundy of late. He's been really cool under pressure and his foot skills have been excellent.

Yep Grundy has been huge

[Blue Sun]

Missed the first half. 5 goals 15 BEHINDS!!? What is going on? 20 scoring shots to 5 though, Swannies are dominating!

[Billericay]

We should be 60-70 points up. Just hope we can keep it up in the second half

[Bill Posters]

1. McVeigh - yes!
2. Towers - maybe!
3. Holding the ball - what the hell do we have to do to get a free kick???

[Danzar]

Thank god we got that behind. I was getting unsettled with those goals


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[Thunder Shaker]

Six quarters of football ... 15 goals 35 behinds. Bad kicking is bad football. We should have been 10 goals up by now but instead we're only 20 points in front. Let's hope that we continue the dominance and start to kick straight.

[Hotpotato]

Naismith rucking so well against the Great Gigantic Gawn ...

[stevoswan]

We should be 60-70 points up. Just hope we can keep it up in the second half

If we do we'll win by 60-70+ . We would have to fall over to lose this. The boys are on....bar accuracy. Go Swans!

[dejavoodoo44]

Thank god we got that behind. I was getting unsettled with those goals


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Was overconfidence becoming a problem?

[stevoswan]

It's funny but excruciatingly frustrating how the 'yips' can go through a team.......it would be nice if we end up with more goals than points. It's do-able....and we win big! :wink:

[dejavoodoo44]

The pressure on Melbourne was fantastic in that quarter. Kept them to one behind. Also smashed them in contested possessions. Parker was excellent. Rohan was hurrying up their rebounding, to the point of dysfunction. Kizza finally seems totally injury free and is playing really well.

[Danzar]

Was overconfidence becoming a problem?

We can't get too cocky :) Greater teams have lost from a 14-behind lead


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[Wardy]

Towers had a clearly free Buddy in front of him (I was right behind him) and he ignored him again . Loving Newman !!!

[Scottee]

Roos on Fox talks about the AFL sending officials the take players off after a bashing. This is now a big issue because there is no sub rule and the rules around concussion have tightened. The weird thing is that I distinctly remember Roosy advocating the sub rule before it came in. Says he is against it now. WTF? Can the AFL think anything through before it becomes a problem. They are strategically bereft.

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[Hotpotato]

Buddy's feathered kicks to advantage are sublime .

[Blue Sun]

Just saw the Bugg incident. That's 6 weeks there, knocked poor Callum out. Poor guy, he looked really upset on the bench. I guess all of the aggression targeted towards him from opposition players every week is taking its toll. Pretty awful stuff, reminds me of the Hall Staker incident.

[Danzar]

Roos on Fox talks about the AFL sending officials the take players off after a bashing. This is now a big issue because there is no sub rule and the rules around concussion have tightened. The weird thing is that I distinctly remember Roosy advocating the sub rule before it came in. Says he is against it now. WTF? Can the AFL think anything through before it becomes a problem. They are strategically bereft.

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What's the logic between having a sub for concussion but not another injury?


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[707]

If we tire and lose it will be entirely because of Buggs thuggery.

The intelligent Fox commentators suggesting 5-6 and that it must be stamped out, this is worse than Houli's and unlike Houli, Bugg is no saint. AFL won't be happy, two big suspensions in consecutive weeks.

[Hotpotato]

After the Houli week , its astonishing any player would do a thug act.

[Billericay]

Another preposterous free against Melican. Seriously

[Blue Sun]

Wow, soft free inside 50. Thanks umpires, what a @@@@ing joke.

[mcs]

Another preposterous free against Melican

BY god that was a soft call - looks well within the required distance for mine....

[dejavoodoo44]

Have Channel 7 bothered to say what Mills's injury is? Concussion? Jaw?

[stevoswan]

Do you ever think the Swans would ever receive soft crap like that right in front of goal?? Never......

[Daisi]

Melbourne player takes a dive...free kick....Sydney player punched in the face...free kick reversed...

Quality AFL umpiring...

[Bill Posters]

Umpires given us a couple of frees in the middle so they can even up with some in front of goal for the demons.

Ah - there's one.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Another cracking Longmire speech at half time.

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[Billericay]

Wow, yips are contagious. But Swans are being out contested

[stevoswan]

Without a doubt, Jake will give away a goal a week........but he was lucky there. There's still two quarters left!:tongue:

[Billericay]

That in the back was ridiculous

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Needs to kick this Reid

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BT embarrassed himself yet again re: Viney

[Blue Sun]

Melbourne player takes a dive...free kick....Sydney player punched in the face...free kick reversed...

Quality AFL umpiring...

That makes my blood boil. I am fuming.

Mills concussion confirmed. I hope Bugg doesn't play again this year.

[longmile]

.... i guess mcveigh has played well *grumblegrumblegrumble*

[Billericay]

22 scoring shots to 9

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I needed that one from Lloyd

[stevoswan]

Jake owed us that one! Nice kick....

[gazza]

lot of work for plugger this week

[Blue Sun]

Great goal from Lloyd. Had enough experience now to steady and kick the goal. Well done.

[Billericay]

Paps marked that

[Thunder Shaker]

Why is Parker in the ruck? :hmmmm2:

[Billericay]

Bout time Buddy started dobbing those

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Why is Parker in the ruck? :hmmmm2:

Dunno but it seems to be OK. Maybe to confuse Gawn

[India'sDad]

I love this club so much!!

[Billericay]

Can we relax yet? errrr Nope not when Reid is shooting for goal

[dejavoodoo44]

I've really missed Buddy belting it through from 60.

[Billericay]

I've really missed Buddy belting it through from 60.

+1

[Daisi]

Seems Melbourne are too busy playing the man rather than the football...

All we have to do is be methodical and keeping kicking goals...but what is with our rucking confusion???

[Billericay]

WORST DECISION EVER!!!!!

[Thunder Shaker]

Seems Melbourne are too busy playing the man rather than the football...

All we have to do is be methodical and keeping kicking goals...but what is with our rucking confusion???
Gawn in the ruck on his own ... ?

[Daisi]

They seriously paid that a deliberate OOB??? Oh dear.....

[stevoswan]

Where do they get umpires from these days? Not from footy stock obviously, they have no understanding of the game.....:hmmmm2:

[0918330512]

They seriously paid that a deliberate OOB??? Oh dear.....

Credit to BT calling the stupidity of that call against Rohan

[Billericay]

That not OOB after the Rohan one, umpires are funked

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I agree with Ling that Parker is BACK

[longmile]

Parker BOG by a mile, hasn't played this good for a while. Amazing

[stevoswan]

Have you ever a seen a team so dominant......with only 8 goals on the board after 3 quarters? Unbelievable! Playing well though, and yes, Parker is on song. Let's finish with 15 goals!!

[i'm-uninformed2]

The Rohan decision made even my dogs laugh.

By the way, gee Melican does some good stuff and has great football brains. Not elite skills or pure speed, but just does the right stuff

[Daisi]

As we now know, it's not over until the the final siren sounds......as I learnt to my horror as I waited outside the SCG- after leaving at the 23 minute mark of the final quarter last week..

[Billericay]

The Rohan decision made even my dogs laugh.

By the way, gee Melican does some good stuff and has great football brains. Not elite skills or pure speed, but just does the right stuff

Melican is a keeper. He has a lot of poise for a key defender

[swannymum]

Watching the game in our caravan at Broken Hill. Terribly frustrating that twice during the middle of play they go to an ad!! What the???

[Danzar]

Melbourne player takes a dive...free kick....Sydney player punched in the face...free kick reversed...

Quality AFL umpiring...

I think that reversal was Stevic, then he's been reasonably good to us (we're not playing the Hawks though I guess).


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[Blue Sun]

They got the deliberate OOB calls mixed up!

[Billericay]

They got the deliberate OOB calls mixed up!

They certainly did

[Daisi]

How is Jones still playing?

And far more importantly, when will Josh Kennedy...our Josh Kennedy win Brownlow?

and how long before the umps try to give this game to Melbourne with some cheap free kicks?

[Billericay]

Why does Petracca not have an opponent?

[longmile]

melb gets the free kick momentum all of a sudden

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How is Jones still playing?

And far more importantly, when will Josh Kennedy...our Josh Kennedy win Brownlow?

and how long before the umps try to give this game to Melbourne with some cheap free kicks?

Give him a break he pretty much has one eye

[Daisi]

That's what I meant...he's my favourite player...how can he play all beaten up like that?

[stevoswan]

Wow, we got a doubtful one.....more please!

[Billericay]

Boy oh boy did we need that

[Thunder Shaker]

Buddy marvellous goal!

[stevoswan]

Buddy, Buddy, Buddyyyyyyyyy!!!!

[longmile]

Florent not good enough at AFL level yet

[dejavoodoo44]

That Buddy goal was poetry in slow motion.

[longmile]

Parker has gone next level tonight

[Billericay]

Now BT is going after Jones... he's a @@@@ stirring @@@@

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I'm starting to relax

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Beautiful kick from Kizza to advantage

[undy]

Listening on ABC but I see the tv is advertising that bt will be tooling around the winners rooms.

[longmile]

Jones could get a week for that

[0918330512]

Zac Jones has as many brain fades as BBBH. At least Hall's were usually provoked. Jones just gets angry in general play.

[Billericay]

Jones could get a week for that

No way

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Kieren Jack has been really good tonight. Towers OK. Rohan needs to play forward not back.

I hate to say it, but I'm really glad we've had McVeigh in the side. I didn't want him in, and he's been really important.

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Think O-Flo might need some time in the twos

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While I'm at it, Naismith has done a pretty good job rucking solo v Gawn

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Florent just got shepherded 10m off the ball, but that's not a free kick after the one against Melican?

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Discussion turns to roaming BT, who says he's not going to roam!

[longmile]

Think O-Flo might need some time in the twos

Yep only negative for the game. Even Towers played really well. McVeigh and Jack had been questioned but played great. Hanneberry's quite game a massive positive.

Florent needs some consistency in the twos. Hope Dawson can get a run soon

[Mug Punter]

Great result.

Hopefully tonight will shut the McVeigh haters up for a while - 96 ranking points, most when the game was to be won and lost.

Parker and Buddy immense, the entire backline (Rampe McVeigh and Newman especially).

Thought Towers did quite well. Maybe next week for Dawson for Olly who tried hard but could do with a spell in the twos.

Minimum 6 weeks for Bugg.

8-7 if we beat the Suns and then go hunting GWS

[AB Swannie]

Great win. Dominated all night. I can't believe we've kicked so inaccurately the last two weeks and got the two wins.

I really think the one ruck strategy must stay. With Mills going down early we would've struggled to run out the game like we did with Sinclair taking up a lot of time on the ground.

[Blue Sun]

Hope Jones doesn't get another week for that bump.

Great win tonight. So proud of this team. Definitely something special.

McVeigh showed us why he's still in our best 22. Just smart plays. In and around the contest, keeps his cool and gets clean handballs or kicks out. Him and Rampe are important pillars down back.

[Club 80]

Listening on ABC but I see the tv is advertising that bt will be tooling around the winners rooms.

"Roving Brian" is very popular for Melbourne based fans who love their BT.

Longmire doesn't turn up to Gill's dinner and the Swans media manage BT.

I think the Swans need to be careful not to become too anti-establishment.

[Hotpotato]

Didn't see Bugg approach Mills to apologise...
anyone at the game witness same?

[Billericay]

Great result.

Hopefully tonight will shut the McVeigh haters up for a while - 96 ranking points, most when the game was to be won and lost.

Parker and Buddy immense, the entire backline (Rampe McVeigh and Newman especially).

Thought Towers did quite well. Maybe next week for Dawson for Olly who tried hard but could do with a spell in the twos.

Minimum 6 weeks for Bugg.

8-7 if we beat the Suns and then go hunting GWS

Think it will be Hayward for Florent. The one ruck strategy was a success I don't know if it was a one off tactical special, given that Demons only have Gawn or Horse&Co will keep it up. I'd rather have Towers as 22nd man than Sinkers. Not sure what happens when / if Tippo gets his mojo back?

[Cheer_Cheer]

I think we look much better with one ruck. Our best team was out there tonight.. I thought Bugg was gutless no going up to Mills after the game.. I hope he gets plenty..

[Billericay]

BT is a roaming! Talking about AJ

[stevoswan]

Didn't see Bugg approach Mills to apologise...
anyone at the game witness same?

No meeting at all between them. Ch 7 would have been all over it if their had...."Nice touch there from Bugg", "Good sportsmanship".....vomit, vomit!

[Industrial Fan]

Jones was trying to make body contact to push his opponent off the ball. Approached his next contest the same way and won the ball. He got the head but it's a tough one to call.

[Club 80]

Didn't see Bugg approach Mills to apologise...
anyone at the game witness same?

Bugg will probably get a character reference from Donald Trump.

That will get 6 weeks down to 3 weeks.

[Thunder Shaker]

We've squared the ledger at 7-7 and we've closed the percentage gap a lot. That will help if we're to have a shot at a home final.

[longmile]

LOL John Longmire running away from BT was classic

[barry]

McVeigh was good but he'll need to string more than one decent game together before in convinced.

Towers did some great work.

Rohan, one good quarter then missing again.

[The Big Cat]

McVeigh was good but he'll need to string more than one decent game together before in convinced.

Towers did some great work.

Rohan, one good quarter then missing again.

Rohan was terrific all night

[Jeynez]

Feels so reassuring having the ball in McVeigh's hands in defense

[Boddo]

I've said it for while on here. Sinclair will never be a ruck/forward that plays in a premiership. Rohan provides a lot and looks ready for the next step, Reid provides good support for Franklin n towers I'm done with

[stevoswan]

I've seen it all....BT wearing a Swans scarf! Beautiful......

[Hotpotato]

When McVeigh has the ball , you know it won't be turned over , or very very rarely .
Fab to have him back .

[stevoswan]

Towers was good tonight but still shows signs that he maybe shouldn't play in finals. His decision making and execution under pressure and even sometimes under no pressure is just too risky.

[Mel_C]

Bugg will probably get a character reference from Donald Trump.

That will get 6 weeks down to 3 weeks.
No it will be 6 weeks up to 12 ????.

Bugg is talking about the incident but the radio reception isn't good on the train. What did he say?

[stevoswan]

Channel Seven going into 'get Bugg less' mode......apology on air from Thomas but it has to be said, while gutsy, it's self serving......and the follow up Bugg love fest from Bruce is sickening.:hmmm

[mcs]

With the exception of our dreadful kicking for goal, we were absolutely superb I thought overall. We hassled and harried all night, made it hard for the dees all night, and deserved a much larger margin.

[Sandridge]

We support a magnificent club. Let BT into the rooms, stuck a Swans scarf on him and made light of what happened last week. I'd have locked him out again after his hissy fit last week but, fortunately, our club is classier than I am!

GO THE MIGHTY BLOODS!!!!

[dejavoodoo44]

I've seen it all....BT wearing a Swans scarf! Beautiful......

Well, Tom Harley wrapped it around him as a condition of entry. But obviously the trouble with Roaming With BT, is that it has BT. I mean, after the listening to him right through the night, I don't think that too many viewers want any more.

[goswannies]

Bugg to Richo "My genuine attempt was not to hurt him (Mills)" ... well, thank goodness he didn't actually want to hurt him or Cal might've left in a coma

[Blue Sun]

No it will be 6 weeks up to 12 ????.

Bugg is talking about the incident but the radio reception isn't good on the train. What did he say?

Blah, blah not a good look for footy, blah, blah Mills didn't let me apologise blah, blah, I let down my side blah, blah.

Hope he gets 6+ weeks. I particularly enjoyed the obvious contempt Hanners had for Bugg after the match.

[Hotpotato]

Brereton actually defending Zak ...

[goswannies]

Barry Hall was usually provoked into his physical outbursts. I wonder what (if anything) incited Bugg's action?

[dejavoodoo44]

Channel Seven going into 'get Bugg less' mode......apology on air from Thomas but it has to be said, while gutsy, it's self serving......and the follow up Bugg love fest from Bruce is sickening.:hmmm

Yep, just so tiresome, listening to people in all seriousness, eulogise a club's media team for performing PR 101.

[longmile]

Bugg to Richo "My genuine attempt was not to hurt him (Mills)" ... well, thank goodness he didn't actually want to hurt him, he Cal might've left in a coma

pathetic by Thomas "ummmm" Bugg

[dejavoodoo44]

Bugg to Richo "My genuine attempt was not to hurt him (Mills)" ... well, thank goodness he didn't actually want to hurt him, he Cal might've left in a coma
Yes, strange that I guy whose career is essentially physical training, apparently didn't realise that he had power in his arm.

[stevoswan]

Well, Tom Harley wrapped it around him as a condition of entry. But obviously the trouble with Roaming With BT, is that it has BT. I mean, after the listening to him right through the night, I don't think that too many viewers want any more.

Agree on that one, he's a tool. His last comment that he'd '"rather not be here" just shows that class is not something he possesses.

[sprite]

Didn't see Bugg approach Mills to apologise...
anyone at the game witness same?

Bugg approached him and tried but Mills ignored him. Then went around to Buddy, Papley who both were short with him.

Should get 6-7 weeks IMO.

[Billericay]

Bugg to Richo "My genuine attempt was not to hurt him (Mills)" ... well, thank goodness he didn't actually want to hurt him or Cal might've left in a coma

I'd like to know what his genuine attempt was?
As an aside, we won the game convincingly, and Bugg will deservedly have a week from hell with the media.

[stevoswan]

Bugg to Richo "My genuine attempt was not to hurt him (Mills)" ... well, thank goodness he didn't actually want to hurt him or Cal might've left in a coma

Yeah, it's weird how a coward punch is not seen in the same way as it would be if it happened outside a pub.........Bugg's self serving apology is meaningless.

[Club 80]

Agree on that one, he's a tool. His last comment that he'd '"rather not be here" just shows that class is not something he possesses.

I swim against the tide here, but there are parts of BT's commentary that make me laugh.

The way BT says Lloyd's name is pretty funny.

[Daisi]

Look at Buddy smiling....I love to see Buddy smiling

[707]

Blah, blah not a good look for footy, blah, blah Mills didn't let me apologise blah, blah, I let down my side blah, blah.

Hope he gets 6+ weeks. I particularly enjoyed the obvious contempt Hanners had for Bugg after the match.
I was hoping Mills wouldn't talk to Bugg after the game and he didn't, just snubbed him and walked away, great stuff.

Bugg has form, 6 weeks. Glad Horse in his presser said that the incident left us one down for 98% of the game. Good we didn't lose.

Tribunal just needs to do it's work now, want the Thursday members, not the weak Tuesday members!!!

[Hotpotato]

I swim against the tide here, but there are parts of BT's commentary that make me laugh.

The way BT says Lloyd's name is pretty funny.

There's just two of us Club 80 on here who enjoy BT's call. I'm not remotely annoyed by him , and have a few laughs on the couch .

[stevoswan]

Look at Buddy smiling....I love to see Buddy smiling

Amen to that!:five:

[barry]

There's just two of us Club 80 on here who enjoy BT's call. I'm not remotely annoyed by him , and have a few laughs on the couch .

3.

[WauchopeAnalyst]

Brereton actually defending Zak ...
Jones must be going to the Hawks.

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[S.S. Bleeder]

Just saw the Bugg incident. That's 6 weeks there, knocked poor Callum out. Poor guy, he looked really upset on the bench. I guess all of the aggression targeted towards him from opposition players every week is taking its toll. Pretty awful stuff, reminds me of the Hall Staker incident.

He was interviewed after the match. He said it wasn't his intention to hit Mills. What a flog. He must think we're blind and dumb.

[stevoswan]

I noticed Buddy in a dressing gown in the rooms after the game and just then on Ch 7 they were talking about it, how good it is and that the Swans are the only team to still have dressing gowns. Nice touch of tradition Swans......:five:

[S.S. Bleeder]

Bugg to Richo "My genuine attempt was not to hurt him (Mills)" ... well, thank goodness he didn't actually want to hurt him or Cal might've left in a coma

If he says that to the tribunal they should give him additional weeks for perjury.

[Industrial Fan]

Waleed has already made himself unavailable for a character reference stating "I can't. Not for that #%��"

[Ludwig]

I think we look much better with one ruck. Wow. That's a pretty bold statement. I have to admit that the notion of playing only one ruckman did cross my mind a couple of times in the distant past, but was always too shy to say anything. I'm very sensitive about ridicule.

I have been wondering a bit if someone like Aliir could possibly make a bigger impact than Hitouts Towers, who wasn't exactly on fire tonight, thank goodness, because there's nothing worse than Towers on Fire. Just wondering. Let's just pretend I never said it.

[dejavoodoo44]

If he says that to the tribunal they should give him additional weeks for perjury.

Though it might be amusing, if they then asked him, "Well, what were you genuinely attempting to do?"

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Wow. That's a pretty bold statement. I have to admit that the notion of playing only one ruckman did cross my mind a couple of times in the distant past, but was always too shy to say anything. I'm very sensitive about ridicule.

I have been wondering a bit if someone like Aliir could possibly make a bigger impact than Hitouts Towers, who wasn't exactly on fire tonight, thank goodness, because there's nothing worse than Towers on Fire. Just wondering. Let's just pretend I never said it.
Hello, stranger. Hmm, I think that I can pretend that you never said that.

[Hotpotato]

I swim against the tide here, but there are parts of BT's commentary that make me laugh.

The way BT says Lloyd's name is pretty funny.


Wow. That's a pretty bold statement. I have to admit that the notion of playing only one ruckman did cross my mind a couple of times in the distant past, but was always too shy to say anything. I'm very sensitive about ridicule.

I have been wondering a bit if someone like Aliir could possibly make a bigger impact than Hitouts Towers, who wasn't exactly on fire tonight, thank goodness, because there's nothing worse than Towers on Fire. Just wondering. Let's just pretend I never said it.

Welcome back Ludwig , hoped you weren't too far away.

[barry]

It will be very interesting to see if we only play one ruck man again next week. You'd have to say it worked against dees

[stevoswan]

This.....1947 so they did shake but did not speak by all accounts. Mills is all class....a worthy Blood.

[Levii3]

It was literally a 3 second encounter Bugg finds Mills shakes his hand Mills keeps walking after that didn't listen to what ever crap Bugg wanted to say.

[dimelb]

A messy game at times, and frustrating with all those behinds, a bit like watching everyone give their Lewis Jetta impersonation.
But we got rolling again and finished strongly, I think in better shape than Melbourne, who are struggling with their injury list. Fortunately we appear to be over the worst of ours, touch wood.
Great to see Buddy in good form again, and the beneficiary of a couple of beautifully weighted kicks from Towers. I think he is perhaps our best field kick atm.

[Thunder Shaker]

He was interviewed after the match. He said it wasn't his intention to hit Mills. What a flog. He must think we're blind and dumb.
So just what he trying to do then? Spoiling in a marking contest 100 metres off the ball and just happened to connect to Callum's face?

[aardvark]

Tomas Bugg. You can take the boy out of GWS but you can't take GWS out of the boy!

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Big Sammy did well tonight and Lukey Parker back to his best.

[Levii3]

Nick Smith refused to shake Buggs hand good on him.

[Meg]

Wow. Let's just pretend I never said it.

Ummm, ok ......

[MattW]

Rohan was terrific all night

Yep.

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Look at Buddy smiling....I love to see Buddy smiling

Yeah, it's close to my favourite thing.

[Markwebbos]

Provided Freo beat Saints, we'll be in the 8 at the end of the round. If we can beat Gold Coast next week we'll be almost top 4.

The fairytale is alive

[MattW]

A messy game at times, and frustrating with all those behinds, a bit like watching everyone give their Lewis Jetta impersonation.
But we got rolling again and finished strongly, I think in better shape than Melbourne, who are struggling with their injury list. Fortunately we appear to be over the worst of ours, touch wood.
Great to see Buddy in good form again, and the beneficiary of a couple of beautifully weighted kicks from Towers. I think he is perhaps our best field kick atm.

Yeah, Towers kicked well long, but terribly inside 50, including for goal. Reckon our best kicks are McVeigh, Franklin, Newman, Heeney, Lloyd (who was a bit wobbly tonight).

[mcs]

Provided Freo beat Saints, we'll be in the 8 at the end of the round. If we can beat Gold Coast next week we'll be almost top 4.

The fairytale is alive

A few beers might be jogging my judgement a little at this hour, but we can win the flag this year - make no doubts about it. We need a huge lot to go our way, but we can do it.

[MattW]

A few beers might be jogging my judgement a little at this hour, but we can win the flag this year - make no doubts about it. We need a huge lot to go our way, but we can do it.

Yeah, we're good enough. I actually think we've become a harder team over the course of the year.

[aardvark]

Jones has a suspected fractured cheekbone according to BF.

[Matty10]

Gotta hand it to Grundy of late. He's been really cool under pressure and his foot skills have been excellent.

He has been excellent. I have been super critical of Grundy for quite some time (particularly when he voluntarily goes to ground), but give credit where it is due. He has been stellar in our turnaround.


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[Club 80]

Early on Rampe was so vital. He cut off everything and saved the day often.

Rampe was aided early that he played on an electric but not physically imposing tall player in Jayden Hunt.

I would like to see the Swans being in another key defender like AA, so that Rampe does not have to play on a tallish player. In essence he can become the 4th back tall. He looks like he can give more attacking drive and cover for other players when not burdened by playing on a tall player.

There is no way Melican can be dropped. He is so consistent and has great speed, good marking ability and a good kick.

How AFL clubs let Melican get to the rookie draft is anyone's guess.

[aguy]

Jones has a suspected fractured cheekbone according to BF.
Jones is hard enough that he would play a week afte surgery if it was his choice

[Blood Fever]

Yeah, Towers kicked well long, but terribly inside 50, including for goal. Reckon our best kicks are McVeigh, Franklin, Newman, Heeney, Lloyd (who was a bit wobbly tonight).

Great to have a fit McVeigh back. Didn't waste a disposal. I was sitting at ground level and his direction down back gives us a lot more composure. Agree with list above- would add Mills and Melican is also very reliable.

[Meg]

I was sitting up in Melbourne members stand area with a friend who is a Demons supporter. Suffice to say Melbourne supporters were not a happy lot. It was great to see the large number of Swans supporters down the Swans cheer squad end. Even my Demons friends were impressed. Well done you lot - gave the Swans players a great accolade as they left the field at the end.

[707]

So there's a likely toll after last night, Mills may not be risked next week, Jones fractured cheekbone/MRP.

Melbourne toll too, Bugg 5+ weeks, Viney has one of those nasty foot ligament thingy's so that may be two more long term to a final 8 rival.

Dawson just a corkie so must be in contention next week and a great chance for someone to light up the ressies today and put their name forward.

Melican looks a find, plucked out in the 50s from memory in the Rookie Draft. To answer Club 80 query, Melican could hardly get a game for the Geelong Falcons U18 because of high profile KPBs, St.Kilda's Goddard one of them I think? His parents were surprised we wanted to draft him according to reports at the time. He was a very young draftee as well.

Against my pre game thoughts, McVeigh was very good, cool head, good foot skills, is a general. Reg excellent again, Melican and Newman have bolstered our defence this year, Rohan good, Buddy damaging, Parker immense he's back!

No reason we can't go deep this year, one game at a time, once we are ahead of the ledger the 0-6 start is irrelevent, we are the form team right now and IMO have a better team than last year plus we are building a little depth. All good!

[Blood Fever]

I was sitting up in Melbourne members stand area with a friend who is a Demons supporter. Suffice to say Melbourne supporters were not a happy lot. It was great to see the large number of Swans supporters down the Swans cheer squad end. Even my Demons friends were impressed. Well done you lot - gave the Swans players a great accolade as they left the field at the end.

I was sitting down that end where it was almost all red and white. The players are genuinely thrilled by the reception they get in Melbourne, especially at the end of the game.

[MattW]

So there's a likely toll after last night, Mills may not be risked next week, Jones fractured cheekbone/MRP.

Melbourne toll too, Bugg 5+ weeks, Viney has one of those nasty foot ligament thingy's so that may be two more long term to a final 8 rival.

Dawson just a corkie so must be in contention next week and a great chance for someone to light up the ressies today and put their name forward.

Melican looks a find, plucked out in the 50s from memory in the Rookie Draft. To answer Club 80 query, Melican could hardly get a game for the Geelong Falcons U18 because of high profile KPBs, St.Kilda's Goddard one of them I think? His parents were surprised we wanted to draft him according to reports at the time. He was a very young draftee as well.

Against my pre game thoughts, McVeigh was very good, cool head, good foot skills, is a general. Reg excellent again, Melican and Newman have bolstered our defence this year, Rohan good, Buddy damaging, Parker immense he's back!

No reason we can't go deep this year, one game at a time, once we are ahead of the ledger the 0-6 start is irrelevent, we are the form team right now and IMO have a better team than last year plus we are building a little depth. All good!

I agree with all of that, particularly your conclusion. Jack and Rampe's best games of the year, too.

[BRISWAN]

Hi 707
Loved your positive post
Just wondering if you can do a comparison of last years team to this years team to clarify that we are a better team
WHO ???
So there's a likely toll after last night, Mills may not be risked next week, Jones fractured cheekbone/MRP.

Melbourne toll too, Bugg 5+ weeks, Viney has one of those nasty foot ligament thingy's so that may be two more long term to a final 8 rival.

Dawson just a corkie so must be in contention next week and a great chance for someone to light up the ressies today and put their name forward.

Melican looks a find, plucked out in the 50s from memory in the Rookie Draft. To answer Club 80 query, Melican could hardly get a game for the Geelong Falcons U18 because of high profile KPBs, St.Kilda's Goddard one of them I think? His parents were surprised we wanted to draft him according to reports at the time. He was a very young draftee as well.

Against my pre game thoughts, McVeigh was very good, cool head, good foot skills, is a general. Reg excellent again, Melican and Newman have bolstered our defence this year, Rohan good, Buddy damaging, Parker immense he's back!

No reason we can't go deep this year, one game at a time, once we are ahead of the ledger the 0-6 start is irrelevent, we are the form team right now and IMO have a better team than last year plus we are building a little depth. All good!

[MattW]

Hi 707
Loved your positive post
Just wondering if you can do a comparison of last years team to this years team to clarify that we are a better team
WHO ???

Reid for Richards
Melican for Laidler
Hayward for McGlynn

Papley, Hewett, Lloyd, Jones have developed.

Mitchell out for Towers or Florent a diminution, but means Heeney plays in the middle and more speed out wide.

[Matty10]

As much as Papley's bump into Bugg after the Mills incident was a bit silly and we lost the ball because of his action, I absolutely love him for it. We need players to stand up to that sort of thing with a bit a passion.

He ripped his shirt (which essentially branded him as the pariah that he is) and then put him on his backside - well done Paps.


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[wolftone57]

Got to admit I was wrong. Macca was sensational. i was very worried after watching the reserves game again about his lack of pace. Sure that was a factor a couple of times but not too much because he didn't do much chasing. He generally drew the ball and used his unique skill set to beat his opponent to the ball and dodge and weave his way out of trouble. he combined very well with Lloyd, Jones, Newman and the other backs to provide a very strong close knit back half. Melican was good and better for having the 'old fella' there. macca gave him instruction a couple of times as to where to position himself and it worked soooo well.

Bad Points; Our kicking for goal. Efficiency inside 50. That's it.
Mills KO.

Deliberate Out Of Bounds. What a joke. The way the umpires let opposition players throw the ball or just drop it down but if we do it we get penalised.

Good Points; We won contested possession by so much I think Simon Goodwin would be embarrassed. They had a few out and if we kicked straight we would have won by 60 points or more.

Form of Macca.

The way our blokes are playing for each other. Sam Naismith was fantastic last night. He hurt them both physically and by what he did in play. His tap work was sensational and he managed to impact the play around the ground. He was also the first one to stand up for Mills. Good on you Sam. By the way our young blokes have plenty of mongrel.

That goal Buddy kicked. Ok he kicks those pretty often and my nephew would say par for the course. But gee those shots don't get any less wonderful.

Luke Parker. Back to his best. Some of his marks and moves were just unreal. he demolished the Dees.

Our team, this was a full team effort. Plugger needs to give our forwards a kick in the proverbial. But at least they had the opportunity to have plenty of shots due to our incredible mids. Good on Georgie boy for his wonderful game. Towers did some really good work.

[CureTheSane]

The goal kicking or lack there of, doesn't worry me so much.
It happens, and imagine when it comes good. :)

McVeigh was in top form.
Interesting how well the back line worked without Mills down there.
Could be a blessing in disguise in that if we have a strong back 6 in (mainly Rampe, but also Grundy and the other 'staples') then Mills should be made more free at times to play up the ground, which is where he is supposed to be by all accounts.

[O'Reilly Boy]

Rohan was terrific all night

+ 1 His best game since the prelim against the Shinboners in 2014 (which he played from half back rather than up the ground). His pressure game was terrific with consistent second and third efforts. If he had kicked straight�and he usually does�he would have been in top 5 on ground. The forward set up looked very good: Buddy staying down when Reid jumped, rather than spoiling each other. O Flo not there, so Hayward in for him next week if fit. I also though the one ruckman strategy paid off; against the Dons there were too many passages when Naismith and Sinclair were both on the ground lumbering around the midfield. I think that we sometimes forget that Naismith has only played 22 games! We also need to note Kizza's great game last night. Brilliant tackling and some neat kicks. Really impressive game across the park (except for kicking), and it feels like there is some good depth in the list now, particularly in the back half: Aliir, Marsh, the forgotten Laidler and Talia and, dare I say, AJ, across the back. I wonder how/whether Tippett will be able to break into the team at all: the team seems better balanced without the extra big. And I suspect that the Foote experiment might be over.

[mattybloods]

The Mills incident and inaccurate kicking aside what a great match!!!

The 2 players I was extremely happy with last night were;

Naismith. Up against possibly the best Ruckman in the league by himself and matched him in just about all categories. Almost equal hitouts and disposals. Changes the dynamic for the team, we now know playing one ruckman isn't the end of the world (as long as its a fit Naismith) and we don't need to carry another into each game that has no impact around the ground or the forward line. I'd be happy for Tippett to come in playing forward after a few good games in the Ressies but Sinclair is depth only as far as I'm concerned.

Jack. Back at his best. I thought he would struggle for the rest of the year and that he may well retire at seasons end due to his body. Looks like he is fit again and his impact really makes us a better team.

[Club 80]

The Mills incident and inaccurate kicking aside what a great match!!!

The 2 players I was extremely happy with last night were;

Naismith. Up against possibly the best Ruckman in the league by himself and matched him in just about all categories. Almost equal hitouts and disposals. Changes the dynamic for the team, we now know playing one ruckman isn't the end of the world (as long as its a fit Naismith) and we don't need to carry another into each game that has no impact around the ground or the forward line. I'd be happy for Tippett to come in playing forward after a few good games in the Ressies but Sinclair is depth only as far as I'm concerned.

Jack. Back at his best. I thought he would struggle for the rest of the year and that he may well retire at seasons end due to his body. Looks like he is fit again and his impact really makes us a better team.

Well coached by Longmire to allow Naismith to play a kick behind the play when the ball was in Swans attacking 50m. This meant that Naismith got a rest and Gawn got more fatigued and had to cover more ground. Parker was ok in ruck duels against Gawn in the attacking 50m.

[707]

Hi 707, loved your positive post. Just wondering if you can do a comparison of last years team to this years team to clarify that we are a better team
WHO ???
Reid at CHF and saving games in the backline
Newman adds more class down back
Melican an adequate replacement for Ted
Hayward a gun in the making (doesn't turn 19 until after the season) for McGlynn
The improvement from a number of younger players, Lloyd, Jones, Papley etc and (now) return to form of older players like KJack & McVeigh
The development of more depth
Mitchell the only loss but has allowed a better midfield mix with Heeney, Papley and Jones in there more

Head to head 2016 to 2017, we are a better side now, it's why we are now on a winning streak similar to last year. Make no mistake, plenty of the top 8 teams are not happy to see us back in form again.

[Industrial Fan]

Newman has such great balance. After each marking contest seems to read the ball drop and keeps his feet.

Going to be a gun

[ROK Lobster]

Got to admit I was wrong. Macca was sensational.I agree on both counts. I thought he was past it (but figured that he must direct others well etc, because I do not think that the Swans (or any club) are overly sentimental) but he was excellent last night.