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Ajn
4th April 2005, 11:19 AM
With the new rules he would be safe and I'm pretty sure he would dominate. I just can't see any other position for him. He plays his best and most consistant football there and gets to man up to a 7 foot hack who can't go with him.

NMWBloods
4th April 2005, 11:21 AM
Ruck rover in the same way as Koutafides. Kouta was awesome against Essendon on Fri night - 8 clearances. Dominated in the centre from Carlton's dominant tap ruckmen. We should be able to do benefit the same way.

ugg
4th April 2005, 11:59 AM
The only memory of Goodes in the ruck on Saturday was the one he thumped towards our own goals and eventually led to a Kangaroos goal.

Old Royboy
4th April 2005, 12:10 PM
Yep. Here it is.

http://img205.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img205&image=ruckcontest0pp.jpg

ugg
4th April 2005, 12:13 PM
I don't think that was the one. IIRC, it was more central and closer to the 50.

Old Royboy
4th April 2005, 12:16 PM
Maybe there was two, because north swept the ball downfield for a goal after that contest. I was convinced that my camera was a jinx and put it away!

Sanecow
4th April 2005, 12:21 PM
The one I remember, he was moving toward the opposition goal when he punched it in that direction. The commentators suggested toward the boundary line would have been a better direction (not nearly as exciting though, which is the most important thing).

cressakel
4th April 2005, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by NMWBloods
Ruck rover in the same way as Koutafides. Kouta was awesome against Essendon on Fri night - 8 clearances. Dominated in the centre from Carlton's dominant tap ruckmen. We should be able to do benefit the same way.

Spot on.

Ajn
4th April 2005, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by NMWBloods
Ruck rover in the same way as Koutafides. Kouta was awesome against Essendon on Fri night - 8 clearances. Dominated in the centre from Carlton's dominant tap ruckmen. We should be able to do benefit the same way.

He isn't a clearance specialist, but in the ruck he could be the 4th midfielder to allow Kirk to tag and give us 3 midfielders against their 2nd and 3rd best midfielder (noting that most other rucks can't bend down past their knees!)

P.S. Yes the defensive 50 clearance as the 3rd man up was a shocker, but he has had better days (as have most of the team)

ROK Lobster
4th April 2005, 01:06 PM
Should have traded him at the end of 2003, while he was worth something.

NMWBloods
4th April 2005, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by Ajn
He isn't a clearance specialist, but in the ruck he could be the 4th midfielder to allow Kirk to tag and give us 3 midfielders against their 2nd and 3rd best midfielder (noting that most other rucks can't bend down past their knees!)

P.S. Yes the defensive 50 clearance as the 3rd man up was a shocker, but he has had better days (as have most of the team)

Goodes was one of our leading clearance players, around the ground and in the middle, in 2003.

Newbie
4th April 2005, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by NMWBloods
Ruck rover in the same way as Koutafides. Kouta was awesome against Essendon on Fri night - 8 clearances. Dominated in the centre from Carlton's dominant tap ruckmen. We should be able to do benefit the same way.
Kouta could go one-to-one with a 180cm midfielder which Goodes has not done so far. Kouta ground skills are outstanding. He uses his body against smaller players very well too. Goodes in contrast, uses his athelitism advance to NEGATE taller players and use his better grounding skills against taller players (not shorter one) to his advantages. While they have similar physical attribute, their style of plays are different. He would not dominate playing short, i.e, as a midfield. Ruck is his best position, if not, key defensive post is his second best. Didnt we notice that whenever he is going forward, they will mark him with a flanker, not a genuine key position guy.

ScottH
4th April 2005, 01:48 PM
Well that is settled then, We aproach Carlton for a direct swap Goodes for Kouta!!

And while we are there, how about Hall for Fevola, or maybe Whitnall.

Mike_B
4th April 2005, 02:20 PM
Surely Davis and Whitnall are more comparable!:D

ScottH
4th April 2005, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by Mike_B
Surely Davis and Whitnall are more comparable!:D OK so hall for fevola
davis for whitnall,
and dunkley for sos.