Roos and Ireland on board till 2009

[Bloody Hell]

Originally posted by Nico
I say trade him now. What was it, 7 kicks in the GF and 2 of those misses from point blank range in the 1st Q. Turns up late to almost every game, gets a fair bit of it in the last Q (not in GF's though) doesn't appear to be a 4 quarter player.

He's a quality player though. You can't dump him because he plays one dog of a game.

Interesting though to go with his 2 misses in this years GF - in 2005 he missed 2 (relatively simple) snaps in the final quarter when the game was in the balance.

[Mike]

Originally posted by Bloody Hell
in 2005 he missed 2 (relatively simple) snaps in the final quarter....

Not nearly as simple as the two set shots he had this year.

[NMWBloods]

I can't imagine Bolton will get much better and his form will probably start to decline. The wear and tear on his body has to start taking its toll. He can hardly rely on the quality of his disposal or his football smarts.

[Tuco]

Originally posted by liz
One out of two ain't horrendous - he was excellent in the final quarter of last year's GF. Right up there with Buchanan IMO.

Agree, Liz. And while he missed two sitters in the GF this year, only the week before Jude kicked two great goals for us in the Prelim when the game against Freo was in the balance - including a clutch set shot.

[NMWBloods]

One out of two, when they are grand finals is pretty ordinary to start with, but when it's 7 bad quarters out of 8 it's really quite crap.

Criticisms about players in other sides not performing in pressure games fly pretty thick and fast here, but J Bolton has failed in two of the highest pressure games there are. Two grand finals, 28 possessions, 0 goals, 4 behinds.

[Tuco]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
One out of two, when they are grand finals is pretty ordinary to start with, but when it's 7 bad quarters out of 8 it's really quite crap.

Criticisms about players in other sides not performing in pressure games fly pretty thick and fast here, but J Bolton has failed in two of the highest pressure games there are. Two grand finals, 28 possessions, 0 goals, 4 behinds.

The Possession count depends a lot on what job you're given. We always have lower figures in the midfield across the board whenever we meet WC.

Jude had 8 poss in the Qualifier then had 26 poss in the Prelim. Different jobs = different stats.

[NMWBloods]

Bolton gets crap numbers against WC because they tag him closely and he doesn't do well against tags. Stenglein is often against him.

[swansrule100]

14 possies a couple of marks and 6 tackles is hardly a poor grand final from jude. He draws attention away from the younger midfielders for a start and is in at every contest.

and last year the same stats, both years he could of kicked straighter and looked even better.

He wasnt outstanding in either grand final but he was about a 6 or 7 out of 10 overall for each, he peformed his role well.

[Nico]

Originally posted by swansrule100
14 possies a couple of marks and 6 tackles is hardly a poor grand final from jude. He draws attention away from the younger midfielders for a start and is in at every contest.

and last year the same stats, both years he could of kicked straighter and looked even better.

He wasnt outstanding in either grand final but he was about a 6 or 7 out of 10 overall for each, he peformed his role well.

What a load of old cobblers.
Draws attention away from the younger midfielders, sure. Kirk, Willo (retired) Mathews, Ablett (tagger) McVeigh (tagger, maybe) Buchanan (perhaps) O'Keefe (as if). Your statement assumes the other 15 coaching panels are all stupid.

NMW's stats and summary of his efforts were spot on. By the way he has little or no defensive side to his game. If anyone can tell me when he has had a tagging role and the stats of the tagee then I am prepared to stand corrected.

He is supposed to be and has always been a possession getting midfielder.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by swansrule100
14 possies a couple of marks and 6 tackles is hardly a poor grand final from jude.

It's garbage for one of our main ball winners!

[Ed_Gein]

Originally posted by Destructive
2010 onwards looks like being a rebuilding phase.

Not sure.

Players like Schneider, Malceski, Dempster McVeigh, Buchanan etc will all be senior players by then and hopefully they will be able to take the next step up in their careers and become what Barry, Kirk and Hall are doing now, which is lead the club. We'll also have Schmidt and Moore who show promise as well. Of course there is always the chance they may not turn out to be stars of the Kirks mould etc... but i don't think it will be a case of bottoming out for draft picks. But on that note, we wouldn't want to become a club like the Kanagroos, stuck in the middle of nowhere.

[reigning premier]

Originally posted by Ed_Gein
Not sure.

Players like Schneider, Malceski, Dempster McVeigh, Buchanan etc will all be senior players by then and hopefully they will be able to take the next step up in their careers and become what Barry, Kirk and Hall are doing now, which is lead the club. We'll also have Schmidt and Moore who show promise as well. Of course there is always the chance they may not turn out to be stars of the Kirks mould etc... but i don't think it will be a case of bottoming out for draft picks. But on that note, we wouldn't want to become a club like the Kanagroos, stuck in the middle of nowhere.

Don't forget Phillips & Reg .. I think they've already shown they have what it takes...