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    Quote Originally Posted by ROK Lobster View Post
    Ernie might be our man if we need an indigenous bear.
    He's a marsupial - carries his young in his pouch.
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernie koala View Post
    I'm slow, have very little skill, virtually no awareness....where do I sign??

    But are you willing to be knocked unconscious for the Bloods?

    Your list is very interesting (and I'm sure it could be expanded - Nahas for example). All clearly worthy of a place on the list, and some very good players there. But very few taken with early picks. Clearly the Swans are not the only ones with trouble identifying a particular sort of talent.

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    I agree with you Ernie - and made the same point last year at the time of the Marn Grook Trophy - if we have no indigenous players do we still get to contest it?

    I'm not suggesting a quota system is implimented for aboriginals, it's just that in many cases it is difficult to adjust to the AFL "system" as many come from lower/completely different socio-economic backgrounds than 95% of footy players. There are a stack of young players coming to the club every year, surely it would be worth a punt on one of these guys - it is often noted that they contain an x-factor. I wonder if the club just puts this in the too hard basket...?

    Having these two champions of the game at our club to mentor young aboriginal boys is a great resource that should be tapped.
    The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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    I think Nathan Krakouer at 39# is an absolute steal, I think he will be a very, very good player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernie koala View Post
    I'm slow, have very little skill, virtually no awareness....where do I sign??
    Do you have cousins named Gary and Nathan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernie koala View Post
    Here are some players from the last 4 years, missed not just by the swans, by most clubs..
    Cyril Rioli.......pick 12 draft
    Alwyn Davey....rookie list
    Arran Davey.....rookie list
    Danuel Pierce....rookie list
    Andrew Lovett....rookie list
    Nathan Krakouer....pick 39
    Eddie Betts......pre season draft
    James Gwilt ...pick 63
    Josh Gibson.....mature rookie
    Micheal Johnson....pre season draft

    Would hate to have a couple of these guys on our list.
    I think you could build a pretty substantial list of non-Aboriginal players we have missed as well.

    I think racial background should be irrelevant when it comes to selection - it should be about the needs of the list, playing ability and character, whether the player is black, white, or purple with green polka dots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donners View Post
    I think you could build a pretty substantial list of non-Aboriginal players we have missed as well.

    I think racial background should be irrelevant when it comes to selection - it should be about the needs of the list, playing ability and character, whether the player is black, white, or purple with green polka dots.
    You either haven't read the reasoning at the start of the thread or you've missed the point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donners View Post
    I think you could build a pretty substantial list of non-Aboriginal players we have missed as well.

    I think racial background should be irrelevant when it comes to selection - it should be about the needs of the list, playing ability and character, whether the player is black, white, or purple with green polka dots.
    In an ideal world perhaps - we don't live in an ideal world.

    The point I was trying to make in my previous post, was I think alot of clubs see aboriginal players as too hard to develop and stay away from them, since they can pick known quantities that grew up in the suburbs.

    The Swans have a good record of selecting good players at the bottom end of the draft. When was the last pick used for an aboriginal player?
    The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROK Lobster View Post
    Do you have cousins named Gary and Nathan?
    I've been outed..
    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernie koala View Post
    You either haven't read the reasoning at the start of the thread or you've missed the point.
    The reasoning being that Mick and Adam wish to play a mentoring role to a young Aboriginal player. That would come at least fourth in the priorities I listed.

    I understand the reasoning just fine, I'm just not sure it is worth spending a valuable pick simply to fulfil that wish. Maybe a rookie pick, but certainly not a national draft pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puppy Eyes View Post
    Perhaps you could identify which indigenous footballers the Swans have overlooked?
    Cyril Rioli was drafted after Pat Veszpremi, I believe.

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    Gwilt is not Aboriginal. I don't think Nahas is either.

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