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    Round 21: Brisbane Lions Reserves v Sydney Swans Reserves

    NEAFL Round 21
    Brisbane Lions Reserves v Sydney Swans Reserves
    Saturday 18th August 2012 1.30pm
    Yeronga

    An exciting end to the NEAFL regular season with both clubs in contention for a minor premiership in their respective conferences. Brisbane need a win to hold off the Thunder and claim the Northern conference title while the Swans will require a win and hope that Tuggeranong cause a major boilover in beating current leaders Queanbeyan at Greenway Oval on Sunday.

    However the Swans won't be too perturbed if they fail to capture their second consecutive minor premiership, for with the introduction of the Top 5 finals series in 2012, the minor premiers earn the first week of the finals off. This would be an unwelcome break for the team as it impacts on the form and fitness of the fringe players hoping to push their names for senior selection as the AFL finals approach.

    Regardless of the result, the listed players in this game have plenty to play for as during the NEAFL finals series as the number of listed players allowed in the Swans squad is trimmed to just 12, down from a total of 18 in the regular season (with a max of 14 on the field at any one time). From the size of the squads in the past month or so, there will be around 2-4 players who will have to be cut. It will be a tough break on the unlucky players to miss out, particularly those who have played the majority of NEAFL games but find themselves squeezed out next week.

    Eastern Conference Ladder
    TeamPlayedWinsLossesDrawsForAgainstPercentagePoints
    Queanbeyan17143019931329149.96%56
    Reserves17134024031199200.42%52
    Ainslie17116018421596115.41%44
    Eastlake17107016111392115.73%44
    Hills Eagles17107017421662104.81%40
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    Belconnen1751111499173586.40%22
    UWS Giants1751201336209163.89%10
    Sydney Uni1731401257228754.96%12
    Tuggeranong1711511309230456.81%6

    Northern Conference Ladder
    TeamPlayedWinsLossesDrawsForAgainstPercentagePoints
    Lions Reserves17143022491212185.56%56
    NT Thunder17143019441346144.43%56
    Southport17134018671281145.75%52
    Redland17115118431775103.83%46
    Suns Reserves1798016051431112.16%36
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    Labrador189901637174793.70%36
    Broadbeach178811681171298.19%34
    Mt Gravatt1741301383207566.65%16
    Aspley1731401551192580.57%12
    Morningside1731401475212869.31%12

    Past Meetings
    2012
    R8 Brisbane Reserves 11.20 (86) defeated by Reserves 18.12 (120) @Yeronga
    The Reserves travelled to Brisbane to upset the Lions who aided the Swans by being incredibly wasteful in front of goal. The Swans stormed to a 6 goal lead at quarter time and maintained a 4 goal lead at the main break and despite a couple of Lions surges in the 2nd half, confidently withstood the fusillade of shots from Brisbane to win quite comfortably. Mitch Morton continued his goal glut by bagging 8 to complement his 10 the previous week. Captain Jarred Moore dominated the stoppages yet again aided by the taps of big Canuck Mike Pyke

    Goals: Morton 8 Walsh 2, Davis, Thurgarland, Spangher, Cunningham, Moody, Bosschieter, Moore, Meredith
    Best: Moore, Pyke, Walsh, Cunningham, Biggs, Heath

    R16 Reserves 16.7 (103) defeated by Brisbane Reserves 17.20 (122) @ Sydney Cricket Ground

    The Swans for a variety of reasons had plenty of regulars missing and a very strong Lions outfit took advantage of their absence to record a strong away win. Truth be told, if they had converted a higher number of their set shots, the game would have been over early in the 2nd half. Tommy Walsh stood up in the absence of his forward line teammates to take strong grabs, and finished with a deserved 3 goals. Brett Meredith provided plenty of run and dash from the half back line while Trent Dennis-Lane continued to impress onlookers in his new hybrid midfield-forward role.

    Goals: Broome 3, Parker 3, Dennis-Lane 3, Walsh 3, Moore, Krochmal, Mitchell, Lamb
    Best: Walsh, Meredith, Dennis-Lane, Heath, Plug, Parker

    2011
    R10 Brisbane Reserves 14.13 (97) defeated by Reserves 16.8 (104) @ Yeronga
    The Reserves were equally impressive and disappointing in this game. They shot to big leads in the 1st and the 3rd quarters, only to be reeled in by the Lions in the 2nd and 4th quarters. They just managed to hang on when Kane Murphy snapped the winning goal against the run of play. Byron Sumner did a great run-with job on ex-Swan Amon Buchanan while Daniel Currie was superb in a almost-lone hand in the ruck.

    Goals: White 4, Murphy 2, Currie 2, Bevan 2, Moore, Johnston, Heath, Gordon, Sumner, Kruger
    Best: Sumner, Currie, Bevan, McNeil, Parker, Brain

    R21 Reserves 26.23 (179) defeated Brisbane Reserves 4.5 (29) @ Blacktown Olympic Park
    A four quarter performance resulted in a demolishing of the depleted Lions Reserves. The Swans kicked the first 11 goals of the game before registered their first major and were never troubled. Trent Dennis-Lane continued his impressive form with another 6 goals while midfielders Brett Meredith (5) and Nathan Gordon & Kane Murphy (4) also notched multiple goals

    Goals: Dennis-Lane 6, Meredith 5, Gordon 4, Murphy 4, Seaby 2, Bevan, Moore, Heath, Pyke
    Best: Moore, Kruger, Meredith, McNeil, Gordon, Murphy

    Recent Form
    Reserves
    RoundTeamVenueResultFA
    R1UWSAwayWIN15134
    R2BYE    
    R3Gold Coast ReservesHomeLOSS5591
    R4AinslieAwayLOSS85111
    R5TuggeranongHomeWIN21341
    R6NT ThunderAwayLOSS90112
    R7Sydney UniAwayWIN23936
    R8Brisbane ReservesAwayWIN12086
    R9EastlakeHomeWIN14443
    R10Gold Coast ReservesHomeWIN10956
    R11QueanbeyanAwayWIN13796
    R12BYE    
    R13Sydney UniHomeWIN18840
    R14UWSHomeWIN12942
    R15Brisbane ReservesHomeLOSS103122
    R16BYE    
    R17BelconnenHomeWIN19766
    R18Gold Coast ReservesAwayWIN131100
    R19UWSAwayWIN12664
    R20Hills EaglesAwayWIN18059

    Brisbane Lions Reserves
    RoundTeamVenueResultFA
    R1BYE    
    R2BroadbeachAwayWIN12661
    R3UWSAwayWIN10981
    R4NT ThunderAwayWIN84764
    R5Gold Coast ReservesHomeLOSS7793
    R6MorningsideAwayWIN11837
    R7AspleyHomeWIN138106
    R8Sydney ReservesHomeLOSS86120
    R9UWSHomeWIN27433
    R10BroadbeachAwayWIN15942
    R11BYE    
    R12Gold Coast ReservesAwayWIN7250
    R13SouthportAwayWIN16283
    R14Mt GravattHomeWIN21845
    R15Sydney ReservesAwayWIN122103
    R16LabradorHomeWIN11720
    R17Gold Coast ReservesAwayLOSS95103
    R18Mt. GravattAwayWIN12784
    R19RedlandHomeWIN16775
    R20BYE    

    Last Round
    Reserves 27.18 (180) defeated Sydney Hills Eagles 9.5 (59) @ ANZ Stadium

    In the inaugural meeting between the two sides, the Reserves were switched on from the very start and put 8 majors on the scoreboard before the Eagles had their first. The Eagles were more competitive after quarter time but their defence had no answer for the triple threat forward line of Mitch Morton, Matt Spangher and Tommy Walsh. Jed Lamb and Jarred Moore controlled the midfield for the Swans who had excellent service from ruckman Jesse White.

    Goals: Morton 6, Walsh 6, Spangher 5, Meredith 2, Lamb 2, White, Wray, Robinson, Plug, Cunningham, Sertbas
    Best: Lamb, White, Walsh, Morton, Spangher, Moore

    Brisbane Reserves 26.11 (167) defeated Redland 10.15 (75) @ Giffin Park

    The Lions hammered the finals-bound Redland in impressive fashion including an amazing 12 goals to 1 third quarter which all but sealed the 4 points for Brisbane after the margin was a tight 9 points at half time. Aaron Cornelius rebounded from his senior demotion in style kicking 7 in another impressive marking display but it was half-forward James Hawksley who earnt BOG honours with his 4 goals and work rate around the half forward area.

    Goals: Cornelius 7, Hawksley 4, Dyson 3, Fox 3, Fuller 2, Bewick 2, Newell 2, J.Stiller 2, Michael
    Best: Hawksley, Lester, Dyson, J.Clarke, J.Stiller, Cornelius

    Team List
    Listed players
    #NameGamesGoalsVotesNotes
    7Brett MEREDITH14717(Senior extended bench) His inlcusion in the seniors squad of 25 is just reward for a solid second half of the season.
    8Trent DENNIS-LANE93028Impressive all-round performance in the R15 clash with the Lions.
    11Jed LAMB131810His clearance work at the stoppages last week was most impressive.
    13Andrejs EVERITT543Unexplained late withdrawal from the seniors, likely to line up in the midfield.
    17Tommy WALSH152626Returned to goalkicking form with a bag of 6, won't have it as easy this week against Brisbane's big defenders
    18Jesse WHITE122518Continues to be the lone ruckman in Seaby's absence, and performing very well in this role.
    19Tony ARMSTRONG916(Senior extended bench)
    27Matthew SPANGHER102617(Senior extended bench) His inclusion could depend on Reid's fitness, but he may be flown down to Melbourne in any case.
    28Dylan McNEIL1778One whose spot for the finals looks shaky.
    33Jarred MOORE171240Was dominant in the clearances but not as prominent in the forward half.
    35Campbell HEATH17022Had his hands full with Cornelius and Lisle the last time these sides met.
    36Alex BROWN913 
    42Jack LYNCH17712Has grown into the key defensive post as the season has progressed and looks likely to be retained for 2013.
    43Eugene KRUGER1010Finally has overcome hammy issues that has seen him miss the past 5 games.
    44Harry CUNNINGHAM161116Midfield tagging role looms
    45Nathan GORDON12259A defensive role last week may be reprised against Brisbane's talented on-ballers and half-forwards, especially if Meredith is required in Melbourne.
    Changes
    In: Dennis-Lane (senior demotion), Everitt (???), Armstrong (senior extended bench), Kruger (hamstring)
    Out: Mitch Morton (senior promotion)

    3 to be omitted as the seniors bench (McGlynn named on the seniors interchange but not named in the reserves' squad) is finalised this afternoon. Pyke and Parker are certainties with the last spot to be decided between Armstrong, Spangher, Meredith and Morton. A further player will be taken down as the traveling emergency, and perhaps 2 will be required if the doubts over Reid's fitness are serious so the number of listed players could be as low as 15 when the side takes the field tomorrow afternoon.

    Academy Players/Topups
    #NameGamesGoalsVotesNotes
    47Jackson POTTER1661 
    ?Lewis BROOME4103 
    ?Blake GUTHRIE100 
    ?Brandon JACK423 
    ?Dane RAMPE100 
    ?Jordan WEST100 
    ?Stephen WRAY610 
    Changes
    In: Broome, Guthrie, Rampe, West
    Out: Beau Heeney, Bradley Plug, Daniel Robinson, Joshua Roebuck, Dylan Roos, Erol Sertbas, Thomas Thurgarland

    Reserves leading goalkickers

    • Mitch Morton 75
    • Trent Dennis-Lane 30
    • Matt Spangher, Tommy Walsh 26

    For full list: 2012 Goalkickers - RWOwiki

    Reserves leading votegetters

    • Jarred Moore 40
    • Trent Dennis-Lane 28
    • Tommy Walsh 26

    For full list: 2012 Best Votes - RWOwiki

    Brisbane Lions Reserves
        
    B:40. Niall McKEEVER46. Sam MICHAEL1. Sam DOCHERTY
    HB:58. Dave CUMMINS42. Justin CLARKE48. Stephen WRIGLEY
    C:33. Amon BUCHANAN32. Cheynee STILLER18. Todd BANFIELD
    HF:28.Patrick KARNEZIS51. Jackson STARCEVICH27. Josh DYSON
    F:44. Aaron CORNELIUS12. James HAWKSLEY?. Daniel FRAME
    Foll:5. Billy LONGER13. Callum BARTLETT?. Matthew JOSEPH
    Int:52. Scott CLARKE55. Sam GRIBBLE54. Jack FOX
     49. Matthew GREEN?. Daniel DAYE 
    Emg:Caleb BROWNJack COLLINGS 

    In: Banfield, Buchanan, Daye, Green, Gribble, Joseph, Karnezis, Starcevich, Wrigley
    Out: Claye Beams, Rohan Bewick, Ben Fuller, Ryan Lester, Richard Newell, Sam Sheldon, Josh Stiller, Patrick Wearden

    The Swans had trouble containing the height of tall forwards Cornelius and Jordan Lisle in Round 15. To the relief of Heath and Lynch, Lisle has earnt a place in their senior side but replacing him in the reserves is the equally dangerous Patty Karnezis who may be not as tall as Lisle but is a proven goalkicker at NEAFL level. Hawksley was also a handful in Round 15, kicking 4 goals as an smaller forward. Former NSW scholarship holder Richard Newell will also be missed as he has performed a very important job as their forward tag, and was effective in this role against Brett Meredith in Round 15.

    The omissions of Beams, Bewick and Newell will hurt the Lions midfield but they have called upon capable replacements in Buchanan and Banfield.

    Their backline also looks very solid with the talls of McKeever, Michael and Justin Clarke complemented well by the smaller runners in Docherty, Wrigley and Wearden.
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    Seems the away team has the edge in past contests.

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    ugg, a friend has worked out that if all goes well, ressies will play off at the SCG prior to Hawthorne for a place in the grannie. Is this correct?
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    Next week, i.e. before the Hawthorn game, #1 gets the bye, #2 plays #3 and #4 plays #5. Therefore no place in the GF is up for grabs. Secondly, I think the only possibility of the reserves playing a final in Sydney, even if they are the 'home' team is if the Hills Eagles are the other opponent. Otherwise all finals will be played in Canberra.

    For us to play the Hills Eagles, they would have to come 3rd. For them to come third they would have to beat Eastlake and hope Ainslie lose to Sydney Uni (very unlikely) and also bank on the margins being large enough so that they can bridge the current 10 percentage points between their percentage and Ainslie's percentage.

    We are more likely to play Ainslie or Eastlake in Canberra next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugg View Post
    Next week, i.e. before the Hawthorn game, #1 gets the bye, #2 plays #3 and #4 plays #5. Therefore no place in the GF is up for grabs. Secondly, I think the only possibility of the reserves playing a final in Sydney, even if they are the 'home' team is if the Hills Eagles are the other opponent. Otherwise all finals will be played in Canberra.

    For us to play the Hills Eagles, they would have to come 3rd. For them to come third they would have to beat Eastlake and hope Ainslie lose to Sydney Uni (very unlikely) and also bank on the margins being large enough so that they can bridge the current 10 percentage points between their percentage and Ainslie's percentage.

    We are more likely to play Ainslie or Eastlake in Canberra next week.
    I just don't get the need to play all finals in Canberra when we should be trying to promote the game here. I know it wouldn't impact on the crowd v Hawks as it is a sell out but even if it were played on a different day at a different venue like Dromoyne Oval or Skoda or Blacktown at least it is promoting the game in Sydney. That also means the Sydney side get to play in front of a home crowd if they are better placed on the ladder.

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    Wonder where Jordan Lockyer is at? He isn't on the injured list or the ressies list this week. He sure has had a bad run with injuries.

    There do seem to be a few mysteries with the ressies team members now and again - like Everitt's disappearance last week. I suppose it is only the few Dr Watson types among us who notice and want to know everything about everyone - sort of control freakish. Forget I mentioned it.

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    Quarter time Swans 6.3 (39) Lions 3.1 (19)

    Currently 12 min into 2nd quarter Swans 7.3 (45) Lions 5.2 (32)

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    Swans 9.4 (58) Lions 6.2 (38) I think Walsh has at least 3 goals

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    Halftime Swans 11.5 (71) Lions 6.3 (39)

    Goals: Walsh 4 Unknown 3 Dennis-Lane 2 Spangher Everitt

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    Swans 14.8 (92) Lions 7.3 (45)

    Goals: Walsh 4 Dennis-Lane 4 Unknown 3 Spangher Everitt Cunningham

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    Swans 16.9 (105) Lions 7.4 (46)
    Goals: Walsh 4 Dennis-Lane 4 Unknown 3 Spangher 2 Everitt Cunningham #53

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