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    Round 20: Brisbane Lions Reserves v Sydney Swans Reserves

    Helter Skelter
    NEAFL Round 20

    Brisbane Lions Reserves v Sydney Swans Reserves
    Saturday 3rd August 2013 1.30pm
    Coorparoo - Giffin Park

    Both teams will be fresh coming off the bye, but the Lions are in far ruder health than the Swans and will go into the match as favourites having won the two previous clashes this year. The Swans had a morale boosting away win over the Suns magoos in Round 18 while the Lions were pipped at the post by a desperate NT Thunder side.

    With just 3 rounds to go in the home and away fixtures, both the Swans and Lions have booked their place in their respective conference finals but will be keen to build some form and momentum going into the finals.The Swans can still claim the minor premiership but realistically will need to win all 3 remaining games to steal the title from the Belconnen Magpies.

    Eastern Conference Ladder
    TeamPlayedWinsLossesDrawsByesForAgainstPercentagePoints
    Belconnen161150318611414131.61%44
    Sydney Swans Reserves151050416631173141.77%40
    Ainslie16970315641435108.99%36
    Eastlake1596041214128894.25%36
    UWS Giants15870417461360128.38%32
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    Queanbeyan1578041357154487.89%28
    Sydney Uni1569041414141799.79%24
    Hills Eagles15510041344160583.74%20
    Tuggeranong1521304752184740.71%8

    Northern Conference Ladder
    TeamPlayedWinsLossesDrawsByesForAgainstPercentagePoints
    Brisbane Lions Reserves151320317861054169.45%52
    Southport151230316011134141.18%48
    Aspley161051217211296132.79%42
    Gold Coast Suns Reserves16961216181477109.55%38
    NT Thunder15960317611410124.89%36
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    Morningside16970215821392113.65%36
    Redland15870314591346108.40%32
    Broadbeach16610021279158880.54%24
    Labrador1511403953184751.60%4
    Mt Gravatt1511502977202448.27%4


    Past Meetings
    2013
    R7 Reserves 11.15 (81) defeated by Brisbane Reserves 15.14 (104) @ SCG

    Goals: Morton 5, Towers 2, Perris, Everitt, Robinson, Jack
    Best: Walsh, Morton, White, Mitchell, Everitt, Richards

    R15 Reserves 9.3 (57) defeated by Brisbane Reserves 19.11 (125) @ Blacktown International Sports Park

    Goals: Towers 2, Cunningham 2, Membrey 2, Davis, Lycakis, Marsh
    Best: Cunningham, Lloyd, Armstrong, Wray


    2012

    R8 Brisbane Reserves 11.20 (86) defeated by Reserves 18.12 (120) @Yeronga

    The Reserves travelled to Brisbane to upset the Lions who aided the Swans by being incredibly wasteful in front of goal. The Swans stormed to a 6 goal lead at quarter time and maintained a 4 goal lead at the main break and despite a couple of Lions surges in the 2nd half, confidently withstood the fusillade of shots from Brisbane to win quite comfortably. Mitch Morton continued his goal glut by bagging 8 to complement his 10 the previous week. Captain Jarred Moore dominated the stoppages yet again aided by the taps of big Canuck Mike Pyke

    Goals: Morton 8 Walsh 2, Davis, Thurgarland, Spangher, Cunningham, Moody, Bosschieter, Moore, Meredith
    Best: Moore, Pyke, Walsh, Cunningham, Biggs, Heath

    R16 Reserves 16.7 (103) defeated by Brisbane Reserves 17.20 (122) @ Sydney Cricket Ground

    The Swans for a variety of reasons had plenty of regulars missing and a very strong Lions outfit took advantage of their absence to record a strong away win. Truth be told, if they had converted a higher number of their set shots, the game would have been over early in the 2nd half. Tommy Walsh stood up in the absence of his forward line teammates to take strong grabs, and finished with a deserved 3 goals. Brett Meredith provided plenty of run and dash from the half back line while Trent Dennis-Lane continued to impress onlookers in his new hybrid midfield-forward role.

    Goals: Broome 3, Parker 3, Dennis-Lane 3, Walsh 3, Moore, Krochmal, Mitchell, Lamb
    Best: Walsh, Meredith, Dennis-Lane, Heath, Plug, Parker

    R21 Brisbane Reserves 13.8 (86) defeated by Reserves 17.15 (117) @ Yeronga

    The Reserves coped well without leading goalkicker Mitch Morton with his replacement Trent Dennis-Lane kicking 5 goals and the two talls Matt Spangher and Tommy Walsh 3 each. It was the impressive use of the ball by Andrejs Everitt that saw him named best on ground alongside midfield general Jarred Moore. Campbell Heath yet again led the defence superbly, blanketing the Lions tall forwards.

    Goals: Dennis-Lane 5, Spangher 3, Walsh 3, McNeil 2, Everitt 2, Cunningham Gordon
    Best: Everitt, Moore, Heath, McNeil, White

    Recent Form
    Reserves
    RoundTeamVenueResultFA
    R1BYE    
    R2UWSAwayWIN107102
    R3Gold CoastHomeWIN11065
    R4TuggeranongAwayWIN23740
    R5Hills EaglesHomeWIN14886
    R6BYE    
    R7BrisbaneHomeLOSS81104
    R8UWSAwayWIN12778
    R9QueanbeyanHomeWIN15138
    R10AinslieAwayWIN12349
    R11BelconnenHomeWIN14049
    R12Gold CoastAwayLOSS5070
    R13BYE    
    R14NT ThunderAwayLOSS59112
    R15BrisbaneHomeLOSS57125
    R16EastlakeAwayWIN10949
    R17UWSHomeLOSS79142
    R18Gold CoastAwayWIN8564
    R19BYE    

    Lions Reserves
    RoundTeamVenueResultFA
    R1BYE    
    R2MorningsideAwayWIN14457
    R3UWSHomeWIN10162
    R4Gold CoastAwayWIN18070
    R5BroadbeachHomeWIN13656
    R6Gold CoastAwayWIN11179
    R7Swans ReservesAwayWIN10481
    R8BYE    
    R9UWSAwayWIN48136
    R10SouthportAwayWIN8876
    R11Gold CoastHomeLOSS70117
    R12BYE    
    R13LabradorAwayWIN13435
    R14AspleyHomeWIN13486
    R15Swans ReservesAwayWIN12557
    R16Gold CoastHomeWIN10785
    R17RedlandHomeWIN13355
    R18NT ThunderHomeLOSS8390
    R19BYE    

    Last Round
    Gold Coast Suns Reserves 9.10 (64) defeated by Reserves 12.13 (85) @ Metricon

    Goals: Rohan 3, Membrey 3, Plug 2, Head, Cox, Armstrong, Morton
    Best: Robinson, Biggs, Armstrong, Brown, Perris, Hadden

    NT Thunder 12.18 (90) defeated Brisbane Lions Reserves 11.17 (83) @ TIO Stadium

    Goals: Karnezis 4, Cornelius 2, Rutledge, Paparone, Banfield, Hammelmann, Bartlett
    Best: Crisp, Newell, O'Brien, Karnezis, Wearden

    Team List
    Listed players
    #NameGamesGoalsVotesNotes
    1Tim MEMBREY11274Continues to contribute without getting any real 'official' recognition.
    7Harry CUNNINGHAM9717(seniors emergency) Two sub's vests to add to his lone vest last year. Will slot straight back into the midfield.
    10Mitch MORTON72713(seniors emergency) Incredibly quiet by his standards with a return of only 1 goal in the past 2 matches.
    16Gary ROHAN250Return progressing ahead of schedule, there's been whispers that he could be a chance for the finals but the next step will be to play a full reserves game. Captain for the day.
    19Tony ARMSTRONG9110Future not looking particularly bright after Biggs leapfrogged him in the half-back pecking order.
    22Dean TOWERS13182 
    23Jordan LOCKYER1513Had his best game, or best portion of 1 game, against the Lions tall target man Aaron Cornelius in the last meeting of these two sides.
    27Daniel ROBINSON14913Was the last man left standing as the only listed player available for midfield action against the Suns, but excelled and earnt praise from Crouch.
    28Matthew DICK1130 
    36Alex BROWN15315After a quiet middle part to the season, earnt his first vote in 7 matches last week.
    42Xavier RICHARDS12010Severely missed in the last Swans-Lions reserves clash, he will be a welcome addition to battle Brisbane's wealth of tall forward talent
    44Jake LLOYD141138Missed his first game of the year last week still recovering from the heavy knock suffered against the Giants 3 weeks ago.
    Changes
    In: Cunningham (seniors), Towers (traveling emergency), Lloyd (concussion)
    Out: Rhyce SHAW (seniors), Shane BIGGS (traveling emergency)

    Cunningham and Lloyd will boost the depleted on-ball division while Towers could be slotted either up forward where he has played his best Swans football or downback to replace the run and rebound of Biggs and Shaw.

    Academy Players/Topups
    #NameGamesGoalsVotesNotes
    47Lloyd PERRIS414 
    48Doug HADDEN825 
    49Jack McKINLAY300 
    51Daniel COX220 
    52Jarred ELLIS000 
    53Stephen WRAY1121 
    54Yarran JAFFER-WILLIAMS531 
    58Thomas HEAD661 
    59Jacob DAWES200 
    60Jordan WEIR1351 

    In: Ellis, McKinlay
    Out:
    James DUNN, Brad PLUG, Levi SANDS

    Perris and Hadden both earnt votest for their games against the Suns Reserves, and in Perris' case it was his second consecutive polling game. The midfield isn't as thin this week but he will probably stlil get a run in there some time. Dawes is filling in the gap as the side's number one ruckman but has a Herculean task playing against Longer, Martin and Michael.

    Reserves leading goalkickers
    • Mitch Morton 27 (7)
    • Tim Membrey 27 (11)
    • Jesse White 23 (9)

    For full list: 2013 Goalkickers - RWOwiki

    Reserves leading votegetters
    • Jake Lloyd 38 (14)
    • Jed Lamb 24 (7)
    • Jesse White 24 (9)

    For full list: 2013 Best Votes - RWOwiki

    Brisbane Lions Squad
        
    B:33. Michael CLOSE45. Jordon BOURKE46. Sam MICHAEL
    HB:4. Jared POLEC37. Patrick WEARDEN31. James POLKINGHORNE
    C:25. Richard NEWELL35. Ryan LESTER22. Marco PAPARONE
    HF:28. Patrick KARNEZIS9. Ash McGRATH44. Aaron CORNELIUS
    F:18. Todd BANFIELD19. Jordan LISLE12. Stefan MARTIN
    Foll:5. Billy LONGER47. Jack CRISP13. Callum BARTLETT
    Int:59. Hayden BERTOLI-SIMMONDS56. Lewis RADFORD54. Sam GRIBBLE
     51. Aidan RUTLEDGE55. Cameron STEVENSON53. Bill PENDLEBURY


    In: Close, Gribble, Lester, Lisle, Longer, McGrath, Martin, Pendlebury, Radford, Stevenson
    Out: Riley BLUNDELL, Darcy CAMERON-REEVES, Daniel DAYE, Sam DOCHERTY, Matthew HAMMELMANN, Niall McKEEVER, Jesse O'BRIEN, Archie SMITH, Jacob WATSON

    The Lions dominated in the height department during the Blacktown game and look to have the advantage again on paper. Longer, Michael and Martin all have played as ruckmen in the AFL and with the added height of tall forwards Cornelius, Paparone and Lisle, look to have the potency to punish the Swans on the scoreboard.

    Karnezis excelled for them creating a lot of chances with his run and distribution from half back and also his ability to push forward and kick goals while the ability of Newell to be an effective tagger should not be underestimated. Expect him to run with Lloyd.

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    I believe Sam Naismith isn't far away Ugg. According to Matt Cameron he is training with the main group and wasn't far away from being selected this week. Maybe next week as the Twos could do with him back in the side. Dawes looks to be a pretty good ruckman and if paired with Naismith it could be a very good pairing. That would leave Thomas Head to play FF where he is very dangerous.

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    Thanks ugg for your usual expert presentation.
    I look forward to hearing more about this match, seems it will be played on slightly even terms than the last few as our wounded begin to return to the seniors and the newly-blooded youth return to their old stamping ground.
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimelb View Post
    Thanks ugg for your usual expert presentation.
    I look forward to hearing more about this match, seems it will be played on slightly even terms than the last few as our wounded begin to return to the seniors and the newly-blooded youth return to their old stamping ground.
    I reckon we will give a much better showing than last time. We only had 11 listed players last time and they had a full list bar two. The NSW Rep teams were playing at that stage too so we didn't have access to players like Lloyd Perris. I think we will do much better but we might not win. But in the next few weeks we might be getting back quite a few players and may the Gods help the side we play if Jetts & Rooster are playing in the same side. LRT, Jetts and Goodsie are all on the bikes at the moment. Sammy is already running outside so he has progressed faster than expected and faster than the others.
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    Score updates via a Lions fan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/whatboutbob
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    Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4
    Brisbane Lions 4.3-27 9.11-65 17.13-115 17.17-119
    Sydney Swans 4.5-29 8.6-54 10.7-67 13.8-86


    Brisbane Lions
    Goal Kickers: P. Karnezis 4, S. Martin 4, A. Cornelius 3, T. Banfield 2, A. McGrath 2, J. Polkinghorne , L. Radford
    Best Players: P. Karnezis, S. Martin, A. McGrath, B. Longer, R. Lester, R. Newell

    Sydney Swans
    Goal Kickers: M. Morton 6, D. Towers 3, J. Weir 2, T. Membrey , M. Dick
    Best Players: J. Lloyd, T. Armstrong, M. Morton, D. Towers, X. Richards, J. Dawes

    - - - Updated - - -

    Who picks "best players". Is it independent from the Swans?

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    My understanding is that best players lists (at least in this format) are always the club's choice.

    Great that Mitch Morton is in good form now, because god knows if he's going to get a call-up it will have to be in the next 3 weeks before Goodes, Reid and Jetta all make selection tighter than it is now. And it would be a cold-hearted Swans fan not to want to see him get another call-up.

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    it appears that we wont have the Goodes "finals factor" and there always appears to be a player that stands up above all in a finals game

    Kurt Tippett is my x factor coming into the finals but Mitch Morton without doubt has a massive x factor capability and I would be happy for him to come back in to the snrs but at whos expense ?

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    Anyone know how Rohan went?

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    I hope it is the Club that selects the players game points. I have seen Jake Lloyd overlooked by Nick Davis when he talked about up and coming players. On Swan TV Jared Crouch mentioned 6 or 7 players without mentioning Lloyd. Jack, Richards and Briggs have gone past him, moving from rookie list to senior list. OK Rampe has as well but I think he is the find of the year!!! Having myself moved from a country town to Sydney at same age I know how tough it can be. Just worry we might lose him. He is obviously doing something right if 20 points ahead in game award points.

    To go B2B you either have to be so much better than other clubs (Swans ain't) or you need all the stars to fall into formation, and it requires a larger portion of luck. Our luck might be that the depth at the "bottom level players" is extremely strong. If we get 1/2 of our players back from injury those that will be left out will be the show of our strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottH View Post
    Anyone know how Rohan went?
    The Brisbane guy who was tweeting scores said 'Rohan was quiet' and also 'Rohan was limping late in the game'...

    I would take the 'limping' comment with a grain of salt because his natural gait (certainly pre-injury) was a strange sort of walk which made him look like he was limping. I know both ugg and I thought he looked injured in a first year ressie game at ANZ until we saw him in following weeks and worked out it's just the way he walks. Understandably the Brisbane guy is probably unaware of that.

    Furthermore, if he was still playing late in the game and limping around the ground, it's seems little doubt he would have been taken off the field quick smart if it was a problem with his leg...
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    Next up is UWS again and we need to win to keep our chances of winning the minor premiership alive. However it might not be so bad if we end up finishing 2nd as that would afford us a home final in the first week of the finals (minor premiers get the first week off in the 5 team finals series) and possibly that could be the curtain raiser to the Hawks game at ANZ, or in the worst case a Saturday game at Blacktown.

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