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    Semi Final 2: Sydney Swans Reserves v Belconnen Magpies

    Saturday 31st August at Blacktown International Sports Park

    Shame it couldn't be scheduled for the Hawks curtain raiser but I suspect it would have been hard for Belconnen players to be available for a Friday afternoon trip to Sydney

    Plus side is that all emergencies will play a full game

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    Given we are playing seniors the same weekend, can Jetta and/or Reid play this game???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple B View Post
    Given we are playing seniors the same weekend, can Jetta and/or Reid play this game???
    Given they will only get one game before finals, don't you think it would be better for them to play a game in the seniors. ie; picking up the tempo, playing with the team they need to gel into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple B View Post
    Given we are playing seniors the same weekend, can Jetta and/or Reid play this game???
    I thought it was something like, if you have played senior football then you must have played at least 6 NEAFL games throughout the year to play finals ... Which would rule them both out. There's definitely a criteria, you can't play any listed player.

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    I'm pretty sure they can. Provided the seniors are also playing and therefore you aren't stacking the reserves because they have to be playing somewhere then it is ok.

    It's only whre the seniors are out that the eligibility issues in finals applies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernie koala View Post
    Given they will only get one game before finals, don't you think it would be better for them to play a game in the seniors. ie; picking up the tempo, playing with the team they need to gel into.
    Their game time can be much better managed in the 2's where they can play it by ear as to when they come and go. Winning or losing in the ressies is way way down the list of priorities for this club, as it should be. The problem of trying to manage their time in the seniors is it may well impact on the rest of the team, many of which also look like they need to somehow find a freshen up. If Sammy was to go down after 10 minutes again, let's face it, an absolute possibility, then we find ourselves down on rotations in a game that means jack and we would be desperate to give some of our midfield as easy a game as possible.

    If the club decides to go down the path of resting players who need the rest (ie. plenty of them) and throws the likes of BJ, Harry, Biggs and X in, then happy to see Jets and Sammy also join in the fun.

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    8.0 FINALS

    8.1 Finals Eligibility
    (a) a player must play a minimum of three (3) Competition home and away Matches with the Club
    to qualify for the finals unless otherwise approved by the AFL.
    (b) Any Club that allows a player to play in a final contrary to these Rules may be deemed by the
    AFL to have forfeited the Match. If the Club wishes to challenge the forfeiture it must apply to
    the AFL in writing by no later than the Monday 5pm prior to the weekend?s final Match, so that
    the matter may be determined by the AFL.

    8.2 Exceptional Circumstances
    On application by a player?s Club, the AFL may, in its sole discretion, vary the number of qualifying
    Matches required where a player misses a significant number of Matches due to serious injury or under
    other exceptional circumstances.
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    NEAFL Semi Final 2

    Sydney Swans Reserves v Belconnen Magpies
    Saturday 31st August 2013
    Blacktown International Sports Park

    Note: Match being streamed on neafl.com.au

    The winner of this semi goes straight on to the NEAFL Eastern Conference Grand Final in a fortnight's time while the loser will play the winner of the Ainslie-UWS clash. Although I'm sure the Swans will be aiming to win this game, losing wouldn't be such a bad result either as it would mean another game the following weekend, also in Sydney (and possibly against a strong Giants team) instead of a week off.

    Belconnen have done a remarkable job to turnaround some lean years in recent times, having not qualified for the finals in the past 3 years and picking up the dreaded wooden spoon in 2011. The return of gun midfielder James Bennett from the SANFL alongside his brother Lexie has played no small part in their amazing revival.

    Eastern Conference Ladder
    TeamPlayedWinsLossesDrawsByesForAgainstPercentagePoints
    Sydney Swans Reserves181260419901393142.86%48
    Belconnen18126042133156888.24%24
    Ainslie181170417371573110.43%44
    Eastlake18108041441155492.73%40
    UWS Giants18990421071605131.28%36
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Queanbeyan1899041616177990.84%36
    Hills Eagles18711041637184788.63%28
    Sydney Uni18612041587186585.09%24
    Tuggeranong1821604936226241.38%8

    Past Meetings
    2013
    R11 Reserves 20.20 (140) defeated Belconnen 6.13 (49) @ Sydney Cricket Ground

    Goals: White 5, Jack 3, Kilpatrick 3, Towers 2, Sands 2, Weir, Hadden, Pola-Smith, Membrey, Lamb
    Best: Biggs, Jack, Lamb, Richards, Armstrong, White

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    2012
    R21 Reserves 31.11 (197) defeated Belconnen 10.6 (66) @ Sydney Cricket Ground
    The Reserves were in devastating form, bouncing back from their previous week's defeat to the Lions Reserves, to crush former powerhouse Belconnen by 131 points. Thanks to some fantastic conversion in front of the sticks, the Reserves led by 43 points at half time and pulled away convincingly in the premiership quarter with a 12 goals to 2 showing to put the result of the match beyond doubt. Trent Dennis-Lane continued his superb form playing both up forward and in the midfield and finished with 7 goals while Jesse White had his best showing of the season playing as the primary ruckman.

    Goals: Dennis-Lane 7, White 6, Lamb 3, Morton 2, Cunningham 2, Gordon 2, Spangher 2, Naismith, Roos, Mitchell, Lynch, Brown, Potter, Broome
    Best: Dennis-Lane, White, Parker, Brown, Lamb, Moore

    Recent Form
    Reserves
    RoundTeamVenueResultFA
    R1BYE    
    R2UWSAwayWIN107102
    R3Gold CoastHomeWIN11065
    R4TuggeranongAwayWIN23740
    R5Hills EaglesHomeWIN14886
    R6BYE    
    R7BrisbaneHomeLOSS81104
    R8UWSAwayWIN12778
    R9QueanbeyanHomeWIN15138
    R10AinslieAwayWIN12349
    R11BelconnenHomeWIN14049
    R12Gold CoastAwayLOSS5070
    R13BYE    
    R14NT ThunderAwayLOSS59112
    R15BrisbaneHomeLOSS57125
    R16EastlakeAwayWIN10949
    R17UWSHomeLOSS79142
    R18Gold CoastAwayWIN8564
    R19BYE    
    R20BrisbaneAwayLOSS86119
    R21UWSHomeWIN11045
    R22Sydney UniAwayWIN13156


    Belconnen
    RoundTeamVenueResultFA
    R1EastlakeHomeLOSS67113
    R2Sydney UniHomeWIN152117
    R3TuggeranongHomeWIN11863
    R4BYE    
    R5UWSHomeLOSS127137
    R6Mt GravattAwayWIN16448
    R7QueanbeyanHomeWIN13673
    R8BYE    
    R9Hills EaglesAwayWIN14188
    R10BroadbeachHomeWIN11983
    R11SydneyAwayLOSS49140
    R12BYE    
    R13Sydney UniAwayWIN11481
    R14AinslieAwayLOSS96130
    R15TuggeranongAwayWIN11847
    R16Hills EaglesHomeWIN15289
    R17QueanbeyanAwayWIN13672
    R18EastlakeAwayLOSS53162
    R19AinslieHomeWIN11872
    R20BYE    
    R21QueanbeyanAwayLOSS82107
    R22TuggeranongHomeWIN19146
    QFAinslieHomeWIN12486


    Last Round
    Sydney Uni 8.8 (56) defeated by Reserves 18.23 (131) @ Sydney Cricket Ground

    Goals: Head 3, Towers 3, Lloyd 2, Cunningham 2, Membrey 2, Heeney 2, McKinlay, Davis, Biggs, Jack
    Best: Lockyer, Armstrong, Cunningham, Biggs, Lloyd, McKinlay

    Belconnen 18.16 (124) defeated Ainslie 12.14 (86) @ Kippax Oval

    Goals: York 5, Dess 3, Lokan 3, Bunyan 3, Sharp 2, Porter, Love
    Best: J.Bennett, Campbell, Harper, Sharp, A.Bennett, Hegarty


    Team List
    Listed players
    #NameGamesGoalsVotesNotes
    1Tim MEMBREY14324 
    11Jed LAMB7924 
    19Tony ARMSTRONG12220 
    22Dean TOWERS16275 
    23Jordan LOCKYER18113 
    27Daniel ROBINSON17913 
    28Matthew DICK1440 
    32Lewis JETTA000 
    35Sam NAISMITH100 
    36Alex BROWN18320 
    42Xavier RICHARDS15013 
    44Jake LLOYD171449 
    Changes
    In: Lamb, Jetta
    Out: Harry CUNNINGHAM (seniors), Brandon JACK (seniors), Shane BIGGS (seniors)

    The limit of 12 listed players takes effect in the finals series, but with the number of injuries to the Swans squad as a whole it doesn't look like it has cost too many players a game, as it stands it looks like Mitch Morton will be the only one to miss out, being named as an emergency for the seniors but not for this final.

    Lamb will replace Cunningham in an inside midfield role, and Jetta should also line up in the midfield, although he has played as a half back flanker in past reserves games. Although time is short with his comeback but with the speedster's last game coming in Round 10, the Swans won't be pushing him to the limit and the expectation is that he will only play part of this match. Biggs' absence will be harder to cover, he has been the leading rebounder over the 2nd half of the season but there are plenty of listed players down in defence and they'll just have to collectively pick up the slack.

    Naismith may also be short of fitness, having only made his comeback (half of a) game 2 weeks ago and is likely to only spend portions of the match in the ruck.

    Academy Players/Topups
    #NameGamesGoalsVotesNotes
    47Lloyd PERRIS714 
    48Matthew SPINKS100 
    50Stephen WRAY1421 
    51Brad PLUG440 
    52Thomas GREEN210 
    53Jacob BROOKFIELD000from Wollongong
    54Benjamin HOCTOR000from Wollongong
    58Jordan WEIR1671 
    59Thomas HEAD9101 
    60Josh ZOPPO000from Wests

    In: Brookfield, Green, Hoctor, Plug, Spinks, Zoppo
    Out: Abe DAVIS, Jacob DAWES, James DUNN, Isaac HEENEY, Jack McKINLAY

    With the major ruckman of the last game Dawes omitted, Head is likely to take on main ruck duties due to Naismith's aforementioned lack of fitness. Perris has spent signficant amount of time in the middle and has racked up his fair share of possessions.


    Reserves leading goalkickers
    • Mitch Morton 33 (8)
    • Tim Membrey 32 (14)
    • Dean Towers 27 (16)

    For full list: 2013 Goalkickers - RWOwiki

    Reserves leading votegetters
    • Jake Lloyd 49 (17)
    • Shane Biggs 33 (17)
    • Jed Lamb 24 (7)

    For full list: 2013 Best Votes - RWOwiki

    Belconnen Squad
        
    B:46. Ryan TURNBULL45. Andrew BROWNING16. Chris JANSEN
    HB:24. Nick COLLINS23. Joshua HEGARTY35. Jack BAKER
    C:8. Simon CURTIS6. James BENNETT7. Jordan HARPER
    HF:33. Chris YORK15. Andrew DESS37. John LOVE
    F:26. Dominic BUNYAN18. Shane HARRIS17. Matthew LOKAN
    Foll:19. Matthew PORTER27. Matthew SHARP11. Lexie BENNETT
    Int:12. Cameron CAMPBELL1. Luke DONOHOE43. Isaac TAYLOR
     38. Drew McGRATH44. Patrick DELANEY4. Brock WESTON
     61. Carl WENKE  


    In: Donohoe, Wenke
    Out: Damien HECTOR, Daniel JORDAN

    The 3 danger men in the side are James Bennett, who is clearly their best player. In the final against Ainslie last week, he collected an amazing 46 touches, 13 tackles, 12 clearances and 7 inside 50s. In our Round 11 clash, he had similar numbers tallying 47 disposals, 11 tackles, 13 clearances and 11 inside 50s. An accomplished player who won awards during his stint in the SANFL, the Swans may elect to send a run with player to curb his influence.

    Last year's Mulrooney Medalist, small forward Shane Harris has had an injury interrupted year, only playing 5 games as well but his ability to kick big bags of goals will be crucial to the Magpies' chances. Playing coach Matthew Lokan has filled in for Harris for most of the year, his biggest haul returning 12 majors against Broadbeach as well as bags of 6 goals against Ainslie, Hills Eagles, Queanbeyan and Tuggeranong. He also is versatile enough to play in defence.

    The other major ball winners in their side include Harper, Sharp and captain Lexie Bennett. Matt Porter is an experienced ruckman who is excellent around the ruck contests, and Belconnen may have the edge in this area.
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    Thanks ugg. I hope Lewis can have a good dip, and I think there are others who could yet play a role with the seniors.
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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    Ugg - thk you for your excellent review. What are your thoughts on amt of game time for Jetstar ?

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