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    AFL Injury Update 01/07/2014

    Taking over from Scott this week.


    PlayerInjury21-05Injury28-05Injury03-06Injury10-06Injury17-06Injury24-06Injury01-07
    JohnsonKneeSeasonKneeSeasonKneeSeasonKneeSeasonKneeSeasonKneeSeasonKneeSeason
    LRT    CalfTestCalfTestCalfTest    
    Tippett      Knee2-3 wKnee1 wKneeTest  
    NaismithKneeAvailable            
    PykeHamstring1 wHamstring1 wHamstringTest        
    Dick  Hamstring1 wHamstring1 wHamstring1 w      
    Rampe    KneeTest        
    Towers    Shoulder2-3 wShoulder1-2 wShoulder1 wShoulderTest  
    McGlynn      ConcussionTestThumb1-2 wThumbTest  
    T Mitchell      Ankle2-3 wAnkle1-2 wAnkleTest  
    X Richards      Hip1 wHip1 wHip1 wHipTest
    Aliir        ToeTestToeTestShoulderTBC
    Hannebery        AnkleTestAnkle internal sprain3 wAnkle internal sprain2 w
    Marsh        HamstringTestHamstring1 wHamstringTest
    Perris          KneeSeasonKneeSeason
    Shaw          Ankle2-3 wAnkle3 w

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    Dan back on his feet again

    Funny watching this. There's a clear edit when talking about Rohan's injury...never seen that before.
    The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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    I see Lloyd Perris is set to have a 'hybrid' lars/ traditional reconstruction.

    This will apparently make for a speedier rehab (doesn't say by how much) compared to a straight traditional procedure.

    Fingers crossed for him, hopefully it means he can have a full preseason.
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    I noticed that Tim Needham is now called the club physiotherapist. No mention of Matt Cameron. Has there been a change?

    And where did that news about Perris come from? I haven't seen a thing about it on the Swans' website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post

    And where did that news about Perris come from? I haven't seen a thing about it on the Swans' website.
    At the bottom of this article:

    Finals will be a tough ask for Rioli: Doc Larkins - AFL.com.au
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernie koala View Post
    Good pick up Ernie, Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post
    I noticed that Tim Needham is now called the club physiotherapist. No mention of Matt Cameron. Has there been a change?

    And where did that news about Perris come from? I haven't seen a thing about it on the Swans' website.
    Perris was diagnosed in last week's injury report. There were a few posts on here about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernie koala View Post
    I see Lloyd Perris is set to have a 'hybrid' lars/ traditional reconstruction.

    This will apparently make for a speedier rehab (doesn't say by how much) compared to a straight traditional procedure.

    Fingers crossed for him, hopefully it means he can have a full preseason.
    In theory yes. A traditional graft takes 9-12 months to get to about 70-90% of its full strength. A LARS graft doesn't weaken like a traditional graft initially does. So, augmenting the traditional graft with the synthetic LARS material allows the LARS material/graft to take the initial strain of accelerated rehab while the traditional graft heals & strengthens to its full strength. It's really more how a LARS graft was meant to be used (Ligament Augmentation Reconstructive System - as opposed to using the LARS graft as the sole material to reconstruct the torn ligament)

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    Quote Originally Posted by goswannies View Post
    In theory yes. A traditional graft takes 9-12 months to get to about 70-90% of its full strength. A LARS graft doesn't weaken like a traditional graft initially does. So, augmenting the traditional graft with the synthetic LARS material allows the LARS material/graft to take the initial strain of accelerated rehab while the traditional graft heals & strengthens to its full strength. It's really more how a LARS graft was meant to be used (Ligament Augmentation Reconstructive System - as opposed to using the LARS graft as the sole material to reconstruct the torn ligament)
    Does having LARS hybrid mean that they use less autologous tissue? And if so, is that a benefit of the hybrid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post
    Does having LARS hybrid mean that they use less autologous tissue? And if so, is that a benefit of the hybrid?
    Depends on the surgeon. There is only so much room for the graft to sit in, in the intercondylar notch. The autologous graft is ideally a similar width to the ACL so that it can, in theory, be subjected to the same forces. Also, the LARS graft should eventually be superseded by the autologous graft (there is a school of thought that synthetic grafts often eventually fail, but by the time this happens with a hybrid LARS, the autologous graft should have well & truly incorporated, hence, it should be a relatively normal size to do its job properly.
    Using less donor tissue is really only of benefit if the surgeon is concerned that the donor tissue will be weakened & susceptible to failure, but this is relatively uncommon.
    Last edited by goswannies; 3rd July 2014 at 10:16 PM.

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    There are too many words being used here that I don't understand - specifically, 'autologous'. Let's break it down in to layman's terms: What LARS makes knee most good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by swansrob View Post
    There are too many words being used here that I don't understand - specifically, 'autologous'.
    Google is your friend autologous just means "using bits of yourself", typically bits of hamstring.

    This is quite a useful page, outlining the various reconstruction techniques:

    ACL Reconstruction Graft Choice

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