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    Quote Originally Posted by Zlatorog View Post
    Why do we needs to rest players that have no injuries issues? There were 2 byes this year! How much rest do you still need? Why don't we have just 3 months of footy and be done with. That way everybody can rest a lot. Sheesh!
    We have got 4 or 5 games of the most intense and physical games of football coming up. If giving players a week off to improve any minor injuries so that they can perform at their optimum in the most important games of the year. Doesn't that make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying South View Post
    We have got 4 or 5 games of the most intense and physical games of football coming up. If giving players a week off to improve any minor injuries so that they can perform at their optimum in the most important games of the year. Doesn't that make sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flying South View Post
    We have got 4 or 5 games of the most intense and physical games of football coming up. If giving players a week off to improve any minor injuries so that they can perform at their optimum in the most important games of the year. Doesn't that make sense?
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    Proven year after year that the teams that have the least changes win the big dance, less changes = team cohesion. They had a week off just a couple of weeks ago!
    I see the logic in not playing Josh this weekend as there is a specific problem that they don't want to risk and a week off will assist his recovery and I would have agreed with that POV last year where we had such a hard run into finals and so many injured players,but not this year.

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    I think you rest a player in the last week who is just over the line in being able to play.
    Let them have another week to lower further injury risk.
    for instance if this round was the last, and had little impact on our position, you'd possibly say that Reid might miss so that he's right.

    Aside from that, you want the players playing and staying switched on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewels View Post
    No.
    Proven year after year that the teams that have the least changes win the big dance, less changes = team cohesion. They had a week off just a couple of weeks ago!
    I see the logic in not playing Josh this weekend as there is a specific problem that they don't want to risk and a week off will assist his recovery and I would have agreed with that POV last year where we had such a hard run into finals and so many injured players,but not this year.
    I think it depends on the physical talents of the player. They have experimented with informed player management in cricket with fast bowlers. Mitch Johnson who is an athletic marvel can handle in physical workload thrown at him. Pat Cummins, Mitch Starc and James Patterson break down with too much work.

    The same must apply to footballers. Some need a rest while others don't. Josh Kennedy is a Mitch Johnson will Jake Lloyd always plays better the week after the subs vest. Sam Reid looks like a rest helps while Buddy is about touch and form and would prefer to keep playing.

    It's all about the physical make up of the players and the fitness staff would have the well being index information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt80 View Post
    It's all about the physical make up of the players and the fitness staff would have the well being index information.
    Maybe we should sack Matt Cameron and get a weekly report from the "Well Being Index Officer".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt80 View Post
    I think it depends on the physical talents of the player. They have experimented with informed player management in cricket with fast bowlers. Mitch Johnson who is an athletic marvel can handle in physical workload thrown at him. Pat Cummins, Mitch Starc and James Patterson break down with too much work.
    Yes and the experiment didn't work, according to Darren Lehmann - his philosophy is playing the best available players at all times.

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    I think what people are trying to say either way is:

    If resting certain players will benefit the group and give us the best chance of winning the premiership, then do it,

    If not resting players will benefit the group and give us the best chance of winning the premiership, then do it.

    Either way we should trust the guys getting paid the big bucks to make these calls!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jono2707 View Post
    Yes and the experiment didn't work, according to Darren Lehmann - his philosophy is playing the best available players at all times.
    Exactly, and its a philosophy thats now reaping rewards for the Australian cricket team and a philosophy that from his comments I think is shared by John Longmire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono2707 View Post
    Yes and the experiment didn't work, according to Darren Lehmann - his philosophy is playing the best available players at all times.
    A little harsh. James Paterson broke down after giving his all in that final test in South Africa. Starc broke down after bowling his heart out in India. It depends on the physical talents of the player. It's rare to find players as physically resilient as Mitch Johnson in cricket and Josh Kennedy in AFL. Those two guys relish the workload. Other players need to rest their bodies and be managed carefully. It depends!

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    The point was that Lehmanns philosophy is to not rest players unless injured as opposed to Mickey Arthur's rotation policy which has been far more successful for the Australian cricket team.
    No one is saying to not rest injured players, just that many of us don't believe in resting players for the hell of it as many on here are suggesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jewels View Post
    The point was that Lehmanns philosophy is to not rest players unless injured as opposed to Mickey Arthur's rotation policy which has been far more successful for the Australian cricket team.
    No one is saying to not rest injured players, just that many of us don't believe in resting players for the hell of it as many on here are suggesting.
    For sure. Club medicos have tools that can measure players' workloads and stack that up against their physical capabilities. They know pretty precisely if a player is cooked and could benefit from a week off. Rather than, say, list off a random bunch of players 'who look tired.'

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