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    Corruption of traditional footy talk

    Can't stand it when commentators try to make up names for things which already have a bloody name. A mark is NEVER TO BE CALLED a catch!. Putting the hands out in front is NEVER TO BE CALLED putting the dukes out! The home ground advantage is NEVER TO BE CALLED the home field advantage (take note Roosy!). The loose man in defence is NEVER TO BE CALLED the quarterback! The backline is NEVER TO BE CALLED the defensive half. The first bounce is NEVER TO BE CALLED the tip off. A player shoots AT goal, not ON goal! After a point the player kicks OUT not IN. A handpass is NEVER TO BE CALLED giving it by hand. A pack is NEVER TO BE CALLED a scrum or maul. A utility is NEVER TO BE CALLED a swingman. A banana is NEVER TO BE CALLED a check side. etc etc etc

    I am happy to let the game's vocabulary find new words for modern innovations such as "the fat side", maybe even "set play" (but never "set piece") but never allow traditional footy talk to be supplanted.
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    Well what do you expect? Australia is very Americanised and it seems the social engineers want us to follow the american corporate culture.

    Just look around you and see how many amercian brands have taken over our cities.

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    To me a player kicks in.
    ie: kicks back IN to the field of play.
    Kicking 'out' sounds strange...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CureTheSane View Post
    To me a player kicks in.
    ie: kicks back IN to the field of play.
    Kicking 'out' sounds strange...
    He's kicking out of the square.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Cat View Post
    Can't stand it when commentators try to make up names for things which already have a bloody name. A mark is NEVER TO BE CALLED a catch!. Putting the hands out in front is NEVER TO BE CALLED putting the dukes out! The home ground advantage is NEVER TO BE CALLED the home field advantage (take note Roosy!). The loose man in defence is NEVER TO BE CALLED the quarterback! The backline is NEVER TO BE CALLED the defensive half. The first bounce is NEVER TO BE CALLED the tip off. A player shoots AT goal, not ON goal! After a point the player kicks OUT not IN. A handpass is NEVER TO BE CALLED giving it by hand. A pack is NEVER TO BE CALLED a scrum or maul. A utility is NEVER TO BE CALLED a swingman. A banana is NEVER TO BE CALLED a check side. etc etc etc

    I am happy to let the game's vocabulary find new words for modern innovations such as "the fat side", maybe even "set play" (but never "set piece") but never allow traditional footy talk to be supplanted.
    Agreed.

    Though i must say the creeping in of "first grade" is a bit grating when I read it on here, but i know where the club is and who we are converting so I bite my tounge on that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic.merkin View Post
    He's kicking out of the square.

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    Agreed.

    Though i must say the creeping in of "first grade" is a bit grating when I read it on here, but i know where the club is and who we are converting so I bite my tounge on that one
    I'll cop "first grade" but I draw the line at "Souths".

    Also, Dermot Brereton is responsible for more commentating atrocities than all the others combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPK12 View Post
    Well what do you expect? Australia is very Americanised and it seems the social engineers want us to follow the american corporate culture.

    Just look around you and see how many amercian brands have taken over our cities.
    You'll be in trouble with Matt80......

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Cat View Post
    Can't stand it when commentators try to make up names for things which already have a bloody name. A mark is NEVER TO BE CALLED a catch!. Putting the hands out in front is NEVER TO BE CALLED putting the dukes out! The home ground advantage is NEVER TO BE CALLED the home field advantage (take note Roosy!). The loose man in defence is NEVER TO BE CALLED the quarterback! The backline is NEVER TO BE CALLED the defensive half. The first bounce is NEVER TO BE CALLED the tip off. A player shoots AT goal, not ON goal! After a point the player kicks OUT not IN. A handpass is NEVER TO BE CALLED giving it by hand. A pack is NEVER TO BE CALLED a scrum or maul. A utility is NEVER TO BE CALLED a swingman. A banana is NEVER TO BE CALLED a check side. etc etc etc

    I am happy to let the game's vocabulary find new words for modern innovations such as "the fat side", maybe even "set play" (but never "set piece") but never allow traditional footy talk to be supplanted.
    Can we call a final last second long bomb into the crowded forward line just before half time and full time a "Hail Mary"?

    Can't we call a quarter where the opposition does not score a "shut out"?

    Can we call desperate defensive efforts on the goal line a "goal line stand".

    Can we at least call Buddy our "franchise player".

    Can't we call the AFL Premiers "World Champions".

    Come on people let's embrace what's great in the world of sport.

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    I've always referred to it as a kick in, at least I think I have!

    I thought check-side was just the term used by folks from SA/WA, and as such might be reasonable enough to be viewed as traditional footy talk. It isn't a new term.

    I don't really mind swingman for a utility, but in my mind it would be limited to a mid-tall who can play in the forwards or backline.

    I usually think of defensive half as referring to a team's defensive half of the ground, in that context I'm comfortable with it- and I'm probably relatively comfortable with it being used to refer to the back 6 (assuming back 6 is okay!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPK12 View Post
    Well what do you expect? Australia is very Americanised and it seems the social engineers want us to follow the american corporate culture.

    Just look around you and see how many amercian brands have taken over our cities.
    JPK is not in trouble with me. He is entitled to his opinion.

    What should never be forgotten by the anti - American Swans agenda is that Paul Roos loves America as much as I do.

    Roos delivered the Swans it's first premiership in 70 odd years.

    All Swans supporters should be chanting "God Bless America" in honour of Paul Roos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt80 View Post
    Can we call a final last second long bomb into the crowded forward line just before half time and full time a "Hail Mary"?

    Can't we call a quarter where the opposition does not score a "shut out"?

    Can we call desperate defensive efforts on the goal line a "goal line stand".

    Can we at least call Buddy our "franchise player".

    Can't we call the AFL Premiers "World Champions".

    Come on people let's embrace what's great in the world of sport.
    Matt80, I honestly can't tell if you're taking the piss out of this thread. Isn't there a suitable emoticon you can put at the end of your posts when are being lighthearted?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt80 View Post
    All Swans supporters should be chanting "God Bless America" in honour of Paul Roos.
    God bless anyone who can put a stop to ridiculous suggestions that "all Swans supporters should" do anything of the sort.

    Big Cat, I do like this thread.
    I'm ok with kick out or kick in. Banana is my preferred but check side is almost acceptable IMO (the South Aussies are as anti-Vic as much as you're anti-USA terminology ... but at least they're Australian).
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    So many rules and jargon! AFL is a niche sport, shouldn't we be doing all we can to increase participation and not turn our noses up at people that don't speak "our language"? If someone says ref, just kindly remind them that it's called an umpire in AFL. Don't need to make people feel bad for enjoying AFL. Or maybe we shouldn't even call it AFL, we should call it Australian Rules only and AFL only refers to the top-tier league of Australian Rules

    But yes, to be fair commentators should know what they're talking about considering that's what they're paid to do (comment on the game)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamY View Post
    So many rules and jargon! AFL is a niche sport, shouldn't we be doing all we can to increase participation and not turn our noses up at people that don't speak "our language"? If someone says ref, just kindly remind them that it's called an umpire in AFL. Don't need to make people feel bad for enjoying AFL. Or maybe we shouldn't even call it AFL, we should call it Australian Rules only and AFL only refers to the top-tier league of Australian Rules

    But yes, to be fair commentators should know what they're talking about considering that's what they're paid to do (comment on the game)
    I have no problem with people new to the game who are still to be educated. What I'm railing against is people who have grown up with the sport who are trying to be smart.

    eg. David Parkin - "They need someone in the forward half to take a catch" No David! It's "they need a forward who can take a mark."
    eg. David Parkin#2 (although this is a bit more original) - "They need to go through the corridor." No David "They need to go up the guts."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt80 View Post
    Can we call a final last second long bomb into the crowded forward line just before half time and full time a "Hail Mary"?

    Can't we call a quarter where the opposition does not score a "shut out"?

    Can we call desperate defensive efforts on the goal line a "goal line stand".

    Can we at least call Buddy our "franchise player".

    Can't we call the AFL Premiers "World Champions".

    Come on people let's embrace what's great in the world of sport.
    No, No, No and No!

    It's a scoreless quarter for the opposition.
    It's a great defensive effort in the last line.
    Buddy is our highest paid player. The Swans are not even a franchise - They are a club!
    The AFL premiers are AFL premiers. All this "world series" and "world champions" is American crap when applied to sports where most of the world doesn't participate. To Call American Baseball the World Series is self indulgent crap. Even the soccer "world championship" winner is known as the World CUP champion not world champion.
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