On another thread Matt80 used another of my really, really pet sport Americanisms. ROSTER! AFL teams don't have rosters they have team lists. And while I'm at it, players don't SUIT UP they change into their footy gear. And they don't wear HOSE they wear socks! And they wear footy jumpers or guernseys they don't wear bloody JERSEYS or SHIRTS! And the ball goes out of bounds it DOESN'T FIND TOUCH!
Last edited by The Big Cat; 2nd March 2015 at 11:32 PM.
Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.
You are pretty right here Bloods05 except that the punt kick used before Jack Dyer invented the drop punt was the torpedo punt (sometimes referred to as a spiral punt or more recently as a Barrel). Another punt kick used (to great effect by Peter Hudson) was the flat punt which was dropped onto the boot in line with the goals rather than angled across the boot as in to case of the "torp". Rather than spin, the flat punt would float through the air, but when kicked properly was very accurate from close range. The mongrel punt you referred to was any type of mis-kicked punt which wobbled and spun irregularly and nearly broke your fingers if you tried to mark it. (Hence Rex Hunt's description of "A mongrel, finger-breaking punt"). Andrew Dunkley was a great exponent of the mongrel punt.
Tim Lane, when asked what his greatest booper in football commentary was replied: "What I meant to say was that it was a mongrel up-country punt!"
Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.
After some research, followed by contemplation Ludwig, I concur.
On the issue, I'd say words are words. For me, some words are sacrosanct. A mark is a mark. I'll expose anyone who says otherwise as a phoney. Kick ins are kick outs. It's pretty damn obvious what they're doing and if everyone has been calling it thus forever, what idiot thinks it's a good idea to invent something new? I'm inclined to agree with The Big Cat in most areas.
Then there's the overarching principle. If you americanis(z)e any aspect of AFL you're doing it a disservice. Take a look at my favourite US team, the Columbus Ohio Jackaroos (I've promoted these guys on RWO before I think). They're just a small , humble outfit, but they embrace everything that is Aussie about our sport, even having their own Australian-themed parties. https://www.facebook.com/columbusfooty?fref=ts. Why would anyone who lives right here where the sport was born think it's a good idea to go the other direction?
Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector
And what about this guy?
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Far too many Ludwigs had sad endings, but supposedly Wittgenstein's last words were that he had a wonderful life.
Anyway, all those other Ludwigs are long gone, but I'm still kicking along, or perhaps punting along, it's all so confusing.
A musical Ludwig? Do you mean the drum bloke?
He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)
As one on the side of kick-ins, I'm pretty sure even the rules of the game refer to it as kicking in to the field of play as opposed to kicking out of the goal square.*
* I can't be bothered looking, so might be completely wrong but just thought I'd throw some form of authority behind things.
I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time
The Laws:
13. KICKING THE FOOTBALL INTO PLAY AFTER A BEHIND
HAS BEEN SCORED
13.1 FOOTBALL MUST BE KICKED
Unless Law 12.4 applies, when a Behind has been recorded, the
following shall apply:
(a) the football must be Kicked back into play by any Player of the
defending Team within a reasonable time;
(b) the football must be Kicked from within the Goal Square. For
the avoidance of doubt, one foot of the Player must be behind
any of the lines which define the Goal Square at the time when
the Player Kicks the football;
(c) Other than the Player kicking the football into play, all
Players must immediately vacate the area within 5 metres
of the Goal Square.
(d) the Player Kicking the football into play may, provided they have
Kicked the football clear from their hands, regain possession
and play on from within the Goal Square.
Presumably the ball has been out of play and is going back in!
He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)
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