As Doctor pointed out, still some extra bucks above the league average and they also are allowed a larger list than the league norm which is to be phased out over the next few years (I'm not sure that they actually are using the full number they're allowed this year).
I think it's something that it is quite easy to be confused by. I feel like the media excitement has been cyclical in its hysteria, just rolling from one issue to another without really every digging into specifics; at first it was "they won't be able to retain any of them, it's pointless!" then it has morphed to "they have too many good young players!" without bothering to say "oh, they've clearly been able to retain some of them!"- in both of those examples it was Melbourne media with club associations ("land of the felafel" anyone?) leading the charge. I really feel like it's partly media pushing out stories to generate content in the modern world of 24 hour new cycles, but combined with a malicious, biased section of media consciously trying to manipulate general opinion.
Losing Treloar was a great example of excellent list management under difficult circumstances- bad situation to lose a star over money, but they lost him because of a list management policy that is based around retaining the group overall, they were aware it may occur with one young star midfielder and had already pushed games in to Kelly and Whitfield at an early age to mitigate it, and when he did go they worked on a return that was in their best interests in getting 2 first round picks that aligned with their needs (in getting a current and a future first round).
Maybe the media should start to focus less on "what the AFL gave them" and a little more on "how the hell have they managed to do it, and what can we learn from it?".
I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time
Overall that assessment is pretty spot on.
The North Shore, Eastern Suburbs and Hills District and St George are the traditional heartland of AFL in Sydney and also are in the Swans zone, except for Baulko as the bible belt is allocated to GWS (they can have them ) That allocation isn't a case for favouritism for the Swans but a geographical and socio-economic fact so let's not go down that path.
But GWS have Canberra which I suspect has produced a lot more senior AFL footballers than Sydney. And the Hills district has Baulko (we get Penno) but when you look at the footprint of Sydney GWS simply has an enormous footprint and the one that is growing massively and in the area of young families.
And it's not AFL wasteland, Sure the round ball has appeal there but there are also some real white blue collar areas and growing middle class areas.
And historically there has been success in the west with AFL, it has just been severely neglected which is why GWS' decision to sponsor Manly, a club in the Swans zone, whilst ignoring clubs in its feeder area is nothing short of disgraceful. Campbelltown weer a powerhouse of the SFL but wallow now and are near death, it would only takle a little money and some genuine interest by GWS to re-ignite that club, I really don't know why they don't.
Parramatta have won a SFL flag but remain under-achievers and Penrith have enormous potential with their own junior league but their senior club struggles.
There is an enormous opportunity for GWS to develop the game in western Sydney, they just cannot be bothered and for that they should be condemned.
PS - Nick Davis was not at Wests but St George and LRT was a country boy originally I think.
Even without the academy they have more than enough pipeline to ensure success for the next 5-8 years which is more than enough time to get their Western Sydney and Canberra academies up to speed.
If they had any balls and integrity they'd recognise the inherent rorting they are doing of this system and suggest a solution - zone our Riverina over five years and allocate strategic funding for Western Sydney for the next 15 years
The West Coast Eagles were minor premiers in their 5th year in the AFL and won the premiership the following year. So what's all the excitement about just because GWS are playing well and are serious contenders in their 5th season?
They are not rorting the system if they are just taking what the system is giving them. It's the same as saying we rorted the system because of the COLA. It's not like GWS have to wait in a queue until Carlton, Melbourne and the Bulldogs get their shot at a premiership. We all know that if things go right they have more than enough talent to win premierships in the next few years, but it's not done until it's done.
I have no issue at all with the depth of the GWS list. The AFL rightly said they were going to be given every opportunity to succeed, they erred on the side of generosity re concessions but they have drafted and traded well and developed the players well. They will have a period of dominance where everyone in Melbourne acts as if the world will end and it will be uncomfortable given their minute and superficial supporter base but it will resolve itself over time.
Whether they are rorting the system or merely taking advantage of an inherently flawed system is a case of symantics but what else do you call it when they get to draft a kid at a posh Melbourne Private School who doesn't play in their programme for his entire senior schooling, how on earth can GWS justify getting access to klds like that.
And their complete disregard for developing the game in western Sydney where it is most desperately needed? Not rorting but absolutely disgusting.
I just think that they do little for the game apart from the TV money they deliver. I always thought they were a bad idea but I decided I'd give them the benefit of the doubt because I thought they'd develop the game here in Sydney and they have just shown no desire at all to connect, they just want the quick fix.
The academies are about developing new talent and increasing community engagement. GWS fail appallingly on both counts.
How many academy picks for GWS from areas other than the Riverina? What's that I hear, none?
Take the Riverina under AFL control and get GWS to actually develop non AFL areas like western Sydney where they are supposed to be representing/based!
I actually don't mind GWS dominating the AFL because it could be the Swans best shot at winning another premiership in the next couple of years. For some reason the Swans match up really well on GWS and have always beaten them with the exception of a wet day in 2014. GWS matches up well on Geelong and the Hawks. The Swans may be able to snatch a premiership or two because GWS have killed off the Hawks or Geelong in a couple of finals series's.
Gws being dominant, of it happens, is good for footy in NSW. Bring it on .
Agree Baz. Let these born to rule clubs wallow in their self pity and ineptitude. Carlton the cheque book club of the past are unable to succeed without it or cheating on the salary cap, Essendon; we didn't do it, we were conned, not our fault, we didn't cheat on the salary cap, besides the penalties were too harsh, Collongwood; the rules are not fair, boo hoo, pass the Kleenex.,
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