GWS and it's impact on your club - Please Answer

[The Runt]

No you did not because we never had crowds that low so stop trying to push a GWS agenda with untruths.

Can you please stick to the facts

I hear this mythical 3,000 figure re Swans home games and it makes me want to puke because fella it simply aint true. They were dire days but our crowds WERE NOT THAT LOW. 9,178 in 1990 was our lowest average crowds and whilst we did have two poor crowds of 5,272 v the Brisbane Bears and 6,136 v Fitzroy we were nowhere near this 3,000 figure that people keep on parroting on about

Nay GWS does use the same bloke the Swans used back in the days of really low numbers & they were low. Just think in the future 1 game a week in Sydney pulling good crowds must be great for game overall in Sydney.

[tara]

I remember being asked if our group of about 40-50 Seven Hills juniors could go to the other end of the SCG at end of each quarter so it looked like there was a crowd of TV! Free 4 n 20 and a mini can of Coke and we walked around the boundary, escorted by an official of course. Geez, that would've been around 90?

Also are the Blacktown City Suns the new version of your old junior club as the appeared to have a quakers hill bombers logo on the back?

[KTigers]

We went to the GWS game yesterday and it definitely looked like there were more people than the week before against Gold Coast. And there were, according to the crowd announcement (9,800 vs 8,300)
My feeling from watching them for a few years now is that there are about 8,000 that will turn up regardless, and the rest of the crowd
are supporters of the other team. When you consider Canterbury were playing at ANZ and pulled 17,000, then maybe almost 10,000 is not so bad. GWS crowds now are similar to the numbers the Swans used to get through the early 90s. Was that a calamity? No, not really. GWS are a better team now than the Swans circa 1992, but judging them a failure because they don't get as many people to their home games as the Melbourne teams do is forgetting the fact that there are three other codes being played in Sydney.

[Pekay]

Also are the Blacktown City Suns the new version of your old junior club as the appeared to have a quakers hill bombers logo on the back?

A merger of Rooty Hill and Quakers Hill. You'd think there'd be more than enough people in that area to sustain a club each wouldn't you?

[mcs]

We went to the GWS game yesterday and it definitely looked like there were more people than the week before against Gold Coast. And there were, according to the crowd announcement (9,800 vs 8,300)
My feeling from watching them for a few years now is that there are about 8,000 that will turn up regardless, and the rest of the crowd
are supporters of the other team. When you consider Canterbury were playing at ANZ and pulled 17,000, then maybe almost 10,000 is not so bad. GWS crowds now are similar to the numbers the Swans used to get through the early 90s. Was that a calamity? No, not really. GWS are a better team now than the Swans circa 1992, but judging them a failure because they don't get as many people to their home games as the Melbourne teams do is forgetting the fact that there are three other codes being played in Sydney.

They have their rusted on core fan group, but given how good they are playing, its a bit disappointing crowd figure wise in my book. Attracting that casual fan is difficult though, and will only happen regularly when they have sustained success (i.e. premierships).

[KTigers]

Recently, GWS did a survey that showed for 36% of their members, the Giants weren't their first team.
So that comes to about 4,500 people. A bunch of these people will live in Canberra, so they'll go to those games,
but not the ones at Spotless. The bulk of the rest will live in Sydney and my guess is probably only about half of
them show up each game (because, well, GWS aren't their first team). The GWS boss saw this as people supporting
AFL in Sydney ie a positive. He has a point I think.

[cos789]

They have their rusted on core fan group, but given how good they are playing, its a bit disappointing crowd figure wise in my book. Attracting that casual fan is difficult though, and will only happen regularly when they have sustained success (i.e. premierships).

I have to agree. If I was an Australian Football fan I'd be going to Spotless to witness some good football.
it's supposed to be a good stadium experience and transport is straight forward.
We're not talking bandwagon here but rather "theatre-goers".

[Hamstrings77]

I have to agree. If I was an Australian Football fan I'd be going to Spotless to witness some good football.
it's supposed to be a good stadium experience and transport is straight forward.
We're not talking bandwagon here but rather "theatre-goers".

Id have to say getting to spotless from the city is a nightmare.....Headed there from the city the other week (against the hawks) we used a bus and 3 trains to get to the ground ( train to central, central to lidcombe, lidcombe to Spotless). The ground has only one entrance ( from what we could see) there was a line a mile long that half the crowd was using , the other half just joined the line at the gates. Got in the ground and could find every meal under the sun except for a pie... it was a cluster. we then had to do the reverse to get home...Never again

[Pekay]

That must've been a dreadful experience.

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[cos789]

Id have to say getting to spotless from the city is a nightmare.....Headed there from the city the other week (against the hawks) we used a bus and 3 trains to get to the ground ( train to central, central to lidcombe, lidcombe to Spotless). The ground has only one entrance ( from what we could see) there was a line a mile long that half the crowd was using , the other half just joined the line at the gates. Got in the ground and could find every meal under the sun except for a pie... it was a cluster. we then had to do the reverse to get home...Never again

Getting to Homebush has always been easier than getting to the SCG.
I've always marveled how easy it is to get to Homebush considering the layout of Sydney.
Never had a problem getting home either and that was with much much bigger crowds.
Ever tried getting on a bus after a game at the SCG FFS?
Are you saying the SCG food service is good by comparison?

[saviour01]

I live 13km away from anz stadium. For me its a train to central. A train to lidcombe. A train to homebush. Same return. At least every train goes to central. If you are anywhere south in sydney you have to go into central/redfern and back out.

[cos789]

I live 13km away from anz stadium. For me its a train to central. A train to lidcombe. A train to homebush. Same return. At least every train goes to central. If you are anywhere south in sydney you have to go into central/redfern and back out.

Yes, it's three trains to homebush. I take three to homebush. it seems most people take three trains to Homebush.
I don't have a problem with taking three trains to Homebush. It's a pretty seamless experience. You sit on the train and enjoy the travel. I find the travel to Homebush much more relaxed than going to the SCG. By the same token most people have to go Central and then by bus to the SCG. By contrast I don't like buses much at all. Getting out of the SCG is a nightmare regardless of how you arrived.
If people say they're not going to support the Giants in any way, that's perfectly understandable, but these excuses are pretty lame(something you'd expect from rugby league fans). i repeat, why wouldn't you go and watch a good game of football occasionally (when you've got the time and patience to take three trains that is)