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    Quote Originally Posted by caj23 View Post
    Of course, its called serving your apprenticeship. It doesn't matter whether you're a merchant banker, plumber or AFL footballer. You start at the bottom rung and work your way to the top, it doesn't just get handed to you on a platter just for showing up.

    It seems to be a pretty common theme for Xavier's generation. I've got a lot of mates who work for the Big 4 Accounting firms and the graduates come in day 1 expecting to be running the show and refusing to do any of the so called menial work while they earn their stripes. Most of them don't last longer than 2 years
    I get the idea of having to serve out your apprenticeship, I just think that at AFL level the effort required is usually more extreme than most jobs and if you're not truly passionate about it then it is probably pretty tough to keep fronting up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stellation View Post
    I get the idea of having to serve out your apprenticeship, I just think that at AFL level the effort required is usually more extreme than most jobs and if you're not truly passionate about it then it is probably pretty tough to keep fronting up.
    Tough to keep going when you are on basic money and teammate Kurt 'The Log' Tippett is getting overs for achieving far less. XR played in his brother's shadow and couldn't do more. Same as Brandon Jack. In life there are times when you have to cut bait and move on.
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    There are rumours that something happened after the GF that caused angst amongst the club. No idea what is was but I've seen the quote "Xavier took the loss very badly". Maybe that's code for something else.
    How about watching McGlynn and Tippett amble about knowing they are going home afterwards with their pockets full of dosh for doing SFA in a grand final no less. Momma, I'm comming home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grarmy View Post
    Tough to keep going when you are on basic money and teammate Kurt 'The Log' Tippett is getting overs for achieving far less. XR played in his brother's shadow and couldn't do more. Same as Brandon Jack. In life there are times when you have to cut bait and move on.


    How about watching McGlynn and Tippett amble about knowing they are going home afterwards with their pockets full of dosh for doing SFA in a grand final no less. Momma, I'm comming home.
    Bit harsh on McGlynn. I know he didn't star on the day, but he was inconsolable after the game.

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    What did XR do?

    Yes McGlynn gave us his all throughout his time in Sydney. Tippett and Reid owe us big seasons given the contract they both are on.

    I tend to think that the wage disparity between our top 6-8 and the rest can easily create some jealousy if not handled well. X saw his housemate Mitchell leave Sydney for much more money than available in Sydney. If his salary was as low as some suggest then there is an argument that it might not be worth all of the sacrifice and hard work. One day he might answer some of these questions for us in an interview. In the mean time good luck to him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aprilbr View Post
    Yes McGlynn gave us his all throughout his time in Sydney. Tippett and Reid owe us big seasons given the contract they both are on.

    I tend to think that the wage disparity between our top 6-8 and the rest can easily create some jealousy if not handled well. X saw his housemate Mitchell leave Sydney for much more money than available in Sydney. If his salary was as low as some suggest then there is an argument that it might not be worth all of the sacrifice and hard work. One day he might answer some of these questions for us in an interview. In the mean time good luck to him.



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    Quote Originally Posted by grarmy View Post
    Tough to keep going when you are on basic money and teammate Kurt 'The Log' Tippett is getting overs for achieving far less. XR played in his brother's shadow and couldn't do more. Same as Brandon Jack. In life there are times when you have to cut bait and move on.


    How about watching McGlynn and Tippett amble about knowing they are going home afterwards with their pockets full of dosh for doing SFA in a grand final no less. Momma, I'm comming home.
    Thats professional sport the world over. There is a massive pay difference. 10x. For essentially the same job. I think X and other lowly players accept that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post
    Thats professional sport the world over. There is a massive pay difference. 10x. For essentially the same job. I think X and other lowly players accept that.
    Well no, not for "essentially the same job". Value is a function of quality as well as quantity, with quality very often the far more important factor.

    (I could dress up and walk up and down a runway, but I doubt I would get paid the same as Miranda Kerr.)

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    No matter how him/his manager/and a few posters on here want to paint it, he clearly botched the whole thing up.

    I highly doubt he was thinking when he requested a trade "Oh well there's a chance no other team will pick me up and my AFL career will be over. I'll just work a 9 - 5 job with all the other plebs for a quarter of the money I could have been earning as an AFL player. Cool"

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    Is there any chance that he tried to do the right thing by the Swans by requesting a trade (therefore giving us the opportunity to gain from his departure even though he was going home whatever the outcome), seeing he said he wasn't fazed if he didn't play AFL?

    Dre Everitt said the cost of living was too high in Sydney as did X. Maybe they were both trying to help the Swans by putting that out there.

    I like to think the best of people until proven wrong.

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    Naaaaah. Value is based on delivering measurable results set against mutually agreed goals. If you could sell more clothes than Miranda Kerr you would be paid more than her no matter how beautiful you looked, how hard you worked, and how well you performed your duties. That is why Josh Kennedy will command and receive a pay increase. That is why Kurt 'The Log' Tippett should be traded out.

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    grarmy, you and I are saying the same thing. X may have trained as many hours, run as many laps, lost as much perspiration as other players but his value and therefore pay was never going to match the best players in the Swans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meg View Post
    grarmy, you and I are saying the same thing. X may have trained as many hours, run as many laps, lost as much perspiration as other players but his value and therefore pay was never going to match the best players in the Swans.
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