2017 trading, drafting, list management

[mcs]

Grundy has Proven me wrong. After 2014 I thought that he had about two seasons left. Maybe because I viewed him and Ted as being two years apart, but he is still proving to be our Leo Barry of the back half. He never gets injured and when he was off the ground for ten minutes last week we really struggled. He's got a couple of seasons still in him I think. Hopefully Maibum will be ready to replace him by then.

Absolutely Grundy is churning along very nicely at the moment - but the end can come quickly as well for some when it does come. Look at the end for Teddy. Some of his best football was in his last few years, but when he finally hit the proverbial 'wall', the end was pretty quick. Wouldn't surprise me to see the same with Grundy as well, though his form currently is right up there with the best of his career.

What a player he has been for us though over such an extended period of time. If there is one thing the Swans are good at, its finding quality key position defenders, or at least turning players into them.

[Mug Punter]

Reg is a massively underrated player but I think he could tail off next year.

A lot will depend on the development of Maibaum next year and if he is ready for senior footy and also AJs progress. If they are both good then we have Melican, AJ, Maibaum and Aliir as our KPDs plus Sammy at a pinch. More than enough given the usual durability of our dour defenders.

For that reason I can't see us going for a KPD at the draft this year. You can usually pick a decent one via the trade period or free agency fairly cheaply and I'd expect us to go down that route if we feel we have a deficiency on KPD stocks at the end of 2018

[707]

Need KPF and outside run this draft/trade period, the former you need high draft picks for or pick them up as F/S or academy players.

[Ludwig]

That's true, but there are loads of people with good character, and you wouldn't play all of them as a KPD. I think the point that S.S.B was trying to make was that despite his story, he needs to have the football ability to break into the side. Without the ability, it doesn't matter how good a bloke he is.
But if he's a good footy player, we'd obviously rather have someone of his character than someone of equal ability with more questionable character.

I was strongly against drafting him. I thought it was a big mistake. He had a poor under 18 championships. His first year wasn't much better. But he turned things around in his 2nd season which continued on to last year where he got to play half a season at a good level. I can see from his background, which I didn't know about at his drafting, probably played a part in his development. He is a person who is used to dealing with adversity and seems well equipped to overcome whatever challenges he encounters in his career. And he loves the Swans. These are the main points that I got from the video. He's got the talent. He is likely to overcome his weaknesses to become a very good player and an important one for the Swans.

He's also the cousin of Milwaukee Bucks NBA player Thon Maker. Just guessing, but would think that Aliir would be driven to show that the can be a successful professional athlete as well.

[Ludwig]

Reg is a massively underrated player but I think he could tail off next year.

I think Reg has been rated highly in the past few years, although he was underrated for a fair few years. Every year he seems to start like it's the year he's going to tail off, but then gets back to his best. At his age you know it's going to happen soon, but it's hard to predict the year. It helps that as far as I can recall Reg hasn't had any major injury. He looks hard to replace now, but just like Ted, LRT, Craig Bolton, Leo Barry and Paul Roos, we will find a replacement when the time comes.

Need KPF and outside run this draft/trade period, the former you need high draft picks for or pick them up as F/S or academy players.

There are a fair number of KPPs in this year's draft. They are always hard to rate, but some quality player will be available at our first round pick. We actually don't need a KPF with the signing of Reid, but we do lack depth in that area. It's hard to say if Maibaum or Pink will make the jump to become AFL level players. It's often not evident with KPPs in their 1st season. Alex Johnson is another big unknown going into next season.

At this time last year I was very excited by the quality of the draft and we did well by picking up Hayward and Florent. The draft went deep and we also got a very good group of rookie selections. I don't get that feeling this year. It will be a challenging draft for Beatson and Co.

[Billericay]

At this time last year I was very excited by the quality of the draft and we did well by picking up Hayward and Florent. The draft went deep and we also got a very good group of rookie selections. I don't get that feeling this year. It will be a challenging draft for Beatson and Co.

I'm just glad we didn't trade away our first round draft pick like some teams I could mention.

[Billericay]

With the proviso that this is coming from SEN, rumour this morning of Steve Johnson coming to the Swans as a coach. Thoughts?

Swans to add star to coaching ranks?

Breakfast co-host Garry Lyon hinted Johnson�s coaching career could kick off with cross-town rival Sydney. �I heard that maybe the Sydney Swans are great fans of his footy mind and Tom Harley will be well aware of that,� he said.

[Industrial Fan]

Difficult to separate the coach from the player in this instance but quite possibly a shrewd choice if true.

We may be losing an assistant to another club at the end of the year and fresh ideas are often good

[S.S. Bleeder]

With the proviso that this is coming from SEN, rumour this morning of Steve Johnson coming to the Swans as a coach. Thoughts?

Swans to add star to coaching ranks?

Breakfast co-host Garry Lyon hinted Johnson�s coaching career could kick off with cross-town rival Sydney. �I heard that maybe the Sydney Swans are great fans of his footy mind and Tom Harley will be well aware of that,� he said.

I think we really do need some new blood in our coaching stock and he'd be great. Might add a little bit of *(&^*(&^ to our forwards :-)

[dimelb]

Johnson - great player but still a dickhead. Shirley we can do better.

[Billericay]

I think we really do need some new blood in our coaching stock and he'd be great. Might add a little bit of *(&^*(&^ to our forwards :-)

I think Papley has quite a lot of mongrel already

[ugg]

Johnson - great player but still a dickhead. Shirley we can do better.

On the latest Talking Footy podcast Tom Harley is the guest. In the interview he talks a little about Johnson's indiscretions in the past but also how he was one of the trainers at the club

Having said all that I'm a little confused as I thought part of the SJ to GWS deal was that he would take up a coaching role with them after retirement from playing