Unless Reid has a career best rest of the season then his price must be devalued for us. If another club wants to pay him overs then keep the cards close to the chest and do a deal on a trade. If he is now entrenched in his personal life in Sydney he will probably take a haircut.
Will be devastated if Jones leaves, love watching him play. I think he should be our top priority this year. He's brother sent out a tweet saying something like "couldn't of gone to a better club" when he got drafted to us, so hopefully he remind him he's in a good place.
By the end of the year you'll be saying that we're a lock on the 2018 Premiership. We are certainly off to a poor start and it would take a miracle to get us back in the race for this year. But little has changed in the personnel from the team that, except for imaginative umpiring, could have won the flag. To that, we added and excellent crop of draftees, Reid is back from injury, AJ is coming along, and several players like Jones and Lloyd have taken their games to another level.Originally Posted by Mug Punter
I don't see Jones as being Melbourne through and through. He has spent almost his entire adult life in Sydney. He seems passionate about the club and the club loves him. Not everyone will sell themselves to the highest bidder. Most people will stay at their job if they like their workplace, their colleagues and feel their employer is treating and compensating them fairly.
Mitchell going was an easy call. It was clear to me that we wanted him to go because we were overloaded with what he had to offer. We had to make room for Heeney, Mills and Jones. Zak is the kind of player we need and surely want. I feel confident a deal will be made to keep him at the club.
We should chase that Hopper from GWS, he is unsigned
I agree with this, even though I do like him as a player. He's been well paid for what we've gotten from him so far and think he owes the club something. I don't know how much more of a haircut he can take. He already looks well-scalped. He will probably stay in any case.
Reid is an RFA, so if he goes he will probably be getting something like 600-700k pa on a long term contract. That will probably be enough to get us a 1st round compensation pick after our own pick, but certainly no less than and end of 1st round pick. That's would be pretty fair if it happened.
I think he's a valuable player when he's up and going, but we could survive without him if he leaves.
I don't know how much more of a haircut he can take.
That's exactly what we did when we recruited Tippett. Swans did not have a specialist full forward at the time and that was the role he was chosen to fill. Events since then have changed the scenario I agree.
Need to add a midfield bull to that list. It was Mitchell....now?
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Both Tippett and Buddy are 30. There's not much behind Reid as a KPF.
The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.
If it was a choice of Jones or Reid, for me the choice is easy. Jones every day of the week. This is an early call and some may call me crazy, but he reminds a lot of Chris Judd at West Coast. He possesses a combination of speed, acceleration, agility and core strength. These attributes give him the ability to receive the ball in traffic, then break free from or weave around opponents, allowing him to dispose in open space which is damaging to opposition teams. It gets their defences on the back foot. We saw that a number of times on Sunday. Many have said that it was a breakout game for him. And i agree. Though not surprised. I believe he will be an elite player in the league within a year or two.
Reid on the other hand, IMO, doesn't provide the consistent goal threat that he is being paid for. And i highlight consistently. He often goes 3 or 4 games without kicking a goal. Sure he brings other attributes to the team, but i would have thought he is being paid very well to kick goals. His career average is 1 goal per game. Some midfielders can average that. In fact Luke Parker has kicked more goals than him (+1 Goal/+29 games). I have hopes that Dawson or Cameron could achieve those numbers and take up a lot less cap space. Just my opinion.
Well said.
Jones does have the traits that made Chris Judd a such a great player. It just took 3+ years for it to develop, while it was evident with Judd right from the start. There are not that many players that can win the contested ball, break from the pack with speed and run downfield evading tacklers. Jones looked every bit as good as Dangerfield last game.
Teams don't need a big contested marking forward these days. The Bulldogs have done quite well without one. We still have Buddy plus the resting ruckman in either Tippett or Cameron (one day). Rohan and Dawson can provide good marking options even though they are not KPF size. Both are good contested marks and can kick the ball a long way. If we lose Reid we will probably take a KPF in this year's draft and will get Blakely next year, which should bode well looking longer term. In the short term, one of our backmen, either Aliir or Maibaum could play forward if need be.
Jones, with hard edge and speed (and increasingly his kicking), is already one of our most valuable players. We don't have another senior player like him. (Papley maybe in the future, but doubt he'll be as good.) I hope we throw everything we can at him and surely we will. I remember reading quotes from him last year before he broke out saying that he'd like to stay. He'll be drawing more lucrative offers now, but hope we can give him enough to make us competitive.
Gerard Healy's normally a pretty good judge of the market. Last night on 3AW he valued Jones at $600k p.a. which I think is about right, especially given his compatibility with today's game style. We will probably need to come up with another $300k p.a.
The 2013 draft was a cracker - we did particularly well too, especially given our picks.
Jones, Aliir, Hewitt, Nank, Rampe
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