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Thread: 2017 trading, drafting, list management

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalbilto View Post
    Would making it mandatory for a first round selection to be listed for 3 years help alleviate the go home factor? Thoughts?
    The problem is that most draftees are only finding their way in the first two years and getting intermittent games at senior level therefore feeling a bit homesick.

    Along comes home state clubs showing interest via their manager who no doubt passes it along, the young player then discusses it with Mum and Dad who want him home, mates tell him to come home, he loses focus, loses form then requests a trade. It's happening more and more. The AFL will lock horns with the AFLPA on this as AFLPA almost want free movement but it's destabilising the comp in expansion areas. Gold Coast may never get out of bottom four!

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    Player mangers again churning players for a commission every time their player moves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalbilto View Post
    Would making it mandatory for a first round selection to be listed for 3 years help alleviate the go home factor? Thoughts?
    I'm sure there are good reasons why draftees are only made to commit for the first two years (like what happens if they are just no good and the club is stuck with them for longer?).

    But clearly there is an issue for Queensland clubs and to a lesser extent GWS and Sydney. All the more reason why state-based academies are worthy of support not derision.

    I think time will show that getting Heeney and Mills in consecutive years was a statistical anomaly. The subsequent Eddie-driven hatchet job on academies was short-sighted, damaging for Brisbane and GC and counter-productive to attracting investment from clubs in expanding the talent pool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swansongster View Post
    I'm sure there are good reasons why draftees are only made to commit for the first two years (like what happens if they are just no good and the club is stuck with them for longer?).

    But clearly there is an issue for Queensland clubs and to a lesser extent GWS and Sydney. All the more reason why state-based academies are worthy of support not derision.

    I think time will show that getting Heeney and Mills in consecutive years was a statistical anomaly. The subsequent Eddie-driven hatchet job on academies was short-sighted, damaging for Brisbane and GC and counter-productive to attracting investment from clubs in expanding the talent pool.
    In a competition which has socialism at its core, we can't expect to get favourable treatment in acquiring talent. Getting a first crack at players and having to give up something of comparable value in draft points, seems like the best interim step.

    Trading contracts is something we should be looking at soon as a competition, as well as longer minimum contract lengths for drafted players.

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    Thoughts on turning Floreant into the running hbf and Mills into the in and under mid ?
    Ramps doing the Mills role filling the gaps with Alir playing

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    Draft rankings on afldraftcentral posted yesterday: Matt Balmer’s 2017 Final AFL Draft Power Rankings Part 1 – AFL Draft Central.

    I'm not sure if there'll be anything worth seeing but I'm thinking of attending the draft. Hopefully better than watching on tv and if it's a waste of time I'll know better for next time.

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    Now Fox Footy has put up a phantom draft: https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/fox...669901bafee3de. According to them we'll have our pick of Constable, O'Brien, Murphy and Balta - not that I have much confidence in their prognostications.

    I'd lean towards O'Brien but don't really know. I think if we have confidence in Aliir making the grade then we might not need Balta given they are both tall, athletic and versatile. Constable could be a good understudy for Joey but is not really what we need given we already have strong, slowish onballers like Joey, Parker, Hewett. Anyway, we've got Dawson ready to be a big midfielder already! Also, the rest of our midfield, while not slow, is not noted for explosive pace - at this stage Jones and Papley are among the pacier options who spend time on the ball but they are not full-time midfielders at this stage. I don't know much about Murphy but Balmer reckons he'll go top 10. Apparently there are suggestions the Swans are 'into' him.

    Time will tell. Wish I felt more patient. Time keeps dragging on.

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    Henry Schade?
    Good size, still young....good project for us...and will piss Eddie off if we turn him into another Schauble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    Henry Schade?
    Good size, still young....good project for us...and will piss Eddie off if we turn him into another Schauble.
    I don't think he's up to it, nor do we really need him.

    If we have a run of injuries with key backs I'd rather just give Allir/Maibaum a chance at senior level, rather than have a guy who is a break glass in emergency type

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    Quote Originally Posted by chalbilto View Post
    Would making it mandatory for a first round selection to be listed for 3 years help alleviate the go home factor? Thoughts?
    I think 3 years should be the minimum personally - there is no benefit to the club developing a player that goes home after 2 years. Perhaps even some added incentive for the draftees to re-sign with Bris/GCS?

    ...Maybe some sort of allowance even?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeynez View Post
    I think 3 years should be the minimum personally - there is no benefit to the club developing a player that goes home after 2 years. Perhaps even some added incentive for the draftees to re-sign with Bris/GCS?

    ...Maybe some sort of allowance even?
    They could call it COLA! "Crying Over Living Away"..... or even the "Play School" allowance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevoswan View Post
    They could call it COLA! "Crying Over Living Away"..... or even the "Play School" allowance.
    Good one Stevo.

    I think going home should be permitted, but the player would have to wear a special jumper at the new club, like


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