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    Every win this thread will get bumped, and every loss this thread will drop off.

    Whats the best outcome here... Do we really want to limp into 8th, and face 4 away finals, of which we may win 2.

    To win a flag from here, we need to win 8, lose 3, then win 4 on the road against the top teams.
    Thats a 12-3 record from now on, in a team that only last week couldnt beat Hawthorn.
    In fact I doubt any team has ever had that good a record when you consider it consists of about 9 interstate games.

    If finals happen, it will be nice, but the focus should be on getting a team that is ready for a shot at 2018.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post
    If finals happen, it will be nice, but the focus should be on getting a team that is ready for a shot at 2018.
    Finals experience for our rookies would be a positive for 2018. A premiership would be a miracle but the AFL does like fairytales!

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    In 2014, Richmond were 3-10 and then made the finals, after winning nine in a row. We're 4-7 and I suspect that we're better than that Richmond side.

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    Win every game I say. Winning games = a winning mindset. If we bring the same intensity that we showed last night against the Dogs, anything is achievable this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post
    Whats the best outcome here... Do we really want to limp into [finals]...

    If finals happen, it will be nice, but the focus should be on getting a team that is ready for a shot at 2018.
    Are you saying we should tank for picks?
    Or stop playing players who won't be around in 2018 (Reg? Tippo? Macca?)
    And / or fix up injured players?

    Rather than put out the best team each week to try to make finals? If we made it we'd be galloping not limping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post
    Every win this thread will get bumped, and every loss this thread will drop off.

    Whats the best outcome here... Do we really want to limp into 8th, and face 4 away finals, of which we may win 2.

    To win a flag from here, we need to win 8, lose 3, then win 4 on the road against the top teams.
    Thats a 12-3 record from now on, in a team that only last week couldnt beat Hawthorn.
    In fact I doubt any team has ever had that good a record when you consider it consists of about 9 interstate games.

    If finals happen, it will be nice, but the focus should be on getting a team that is ready for a shot at 2018.
    Four away finals? If we play the Giants, then surely that should be moved to the SCG?

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    Finals are still unlikely from here, but until it's mathematically impossible we should not give up hope.

    As the ladder stands right now, we are only two games outside the top 8 and our percentage is already better than six of the sides above us including three of the sides in the top eight. That will help our chances greatly.

    Late-season runs make a good story, and I hope we make that run.

    Our remaining fixture with a few notes:
    * Richmond (MCG) - Richmond have been a bit of a bogey team in recent years. This will be a difficult game against the Ferals.
    * Essendon (SCG) - Good winning chances.
    * Melbourne (MCG) - Good winning chances.
    * Gold Coast (SCG) - Sydney are one of only two sides that Gold Coast have never beaten.
    * GWS Giants (SO) - The hardest game of the ones to come.
    * St Kilda (SCG) - We had a good win against them last start. Should win again.
    * Hawthorn (MCG) - Could be tricky.
    * Geelong (KP) - Sydney are one of very few sides to have beaten Geelong at Kardinia Park multiple times in the past 6 years. I suspect we must win here to keep any late run going.
    * Fremantle (SCG) - Good winning chances.
    * Adelaide (AO) - We have traditionally struggled against Adelaide but we beat them last start.
    * Carlton (SCG) - By this game, our fate will be clear. Even if we're done by this game, we should have good chances to make amends for our poor early form last start against them.

    Hardest games: Richmond, GWS, Geelong, Adelaide. If we win all the other games (we may still drop one or two), we will need to win at least one of these to be in the finals.

    But this is the 2017 season which has produced a lot of surprises. Let's just enjoy the rest of the season and not worry about whether we make the finals.
    Last edited by Thunder Shaker; 9th June 2017 at 11:43 AM. Reason: fact check
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markwebbos View Post
    Are you saying we should tank for picks?
    Or stop playing players who won't be around in 2018 (Reg? Tippo? Macca?)
    And / or fix up injured players?

    Rather than put out the best team each week to try to make finals? If we made it we'd be galloping not limping.
    No tanking. Any player not in 2018 fix (Macca the only definate) shouldnt be played.
    Manage players that have injuries (miss the odd game, or get early surgery)

    Work out the best 22 combination for 2018, which should win quite a few games anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder Shaker View Post
    Finals are still unlikely from here, but until it's mathematically impossible we should not give up hope.

    Our remaining fixture with a few notes:
    * Richmond (MCG) - Richmond have been a bit of a bogey team in recent years. This will be a difficult game against the Ferals.
    * Essendon (SCG) - Good winning chances.
    * Melbourne (MCG) - Good winning chances.
    * Gold Coast (SCG) - Sydney are one of only two sides that Gold Coast have never beaten.
    * GWS Giants (SO) - The hardest game of the ones to come.
    * St Kilda (SCG) - We had a good win against them last start. Should win again.
    * Hawthorn (MCG) - Could be tricky.
    * Geelong (KP) - Sydney are one of very few sides to have beaten Geelong at Kardinia Park multiple times in the past 6 years. I suspect we must win here to keep any late run going.
    * Fremantle (SCG) - Good winning chances.
    * Adelaide (AO) - We have traditionally struggled against Adelaide but we beat them last start.
    * Carlton (SCG) - By this game, our fate will be clear. Even if we're done by this game, we should have good chances to make amends for our poor early form last start against them.

    Hardest games: Richmond, GWS, Geelong, Adelaide. If we win all the other games (we may still drop one or two), we will need to win at least one of these to be in the finals.

    But this is the 2017 season which has produced a lot of surprises. Let's just enjoy the rest of the season and not worry about whether we make the finals.
    Melbourne at the G is an unknown they play really well or just average depends which team shows up.

    We've only lost to Adelaide once in the last four years I think and that was last year in round 4 when Betts got away with a push in the back.

    We may finish with 11 wins and miss finals which as Barry said might be a good thing and get ready for next year.

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    I think it is hard to play that well every game.

    Even the sides at the top like Adelaide, GWS and Geelong have off games where they are just scrapping through with a win.

    We beat Saint Kilda but then we can't recreate the same level of intensity and energy against Hawthorn.

    This is such an even season, so there is less easy games where we can just turn up and grind out a win against a weak side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post
    Every win this thread will get bumped, and every loss this thread will drop off.

    Whats the best outcome here... Do we really want to limp into 8th, and face 4 away finals, of which we may win 2.

    To win a flag from here, we need to win 8, lose 3, then win 4 on the road against the top teams.
    Thats a 12-3 record from now on, in a team that only last week couldnt beat Hawthorn.
    In fact I doubt any team has ever had that good a record when you consider it consists of about 9 interstate games.

    If finals happen, it will be nice, but the focus should be on getting a team that is ready for a shot at 2018.
    I would absolutely prefer we play finals. Go for glory. That's clearly what that players want. That's always been Sydney's approach and it has served the club well.

    As someone else said recently, if we make the finals we won't be limping: we'll be on a storming run and pumped for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder Shaker View Post
    Finals are still unlikely from here, but until it's mathematically impossible we should not give up hope.

    As the ladder stands right now, we are only two games outside the top 8 and our percentage is already better than six of the sides above us including three of the sides in the top eight. That will help our chances greatly.

    Late-season runs make a good story, and I hope we make that run.

    Our remaining fixture with a few notes:
    * Richmond (MCG) - Richmond have been a bit of a bogey team in recent years. This will be a difficult game against the Ferals.
    * Essendon (SCG) - Good winning chances.
    * Melbourne (MCG) - Good winning chances.
    * Gold Coast (SCG) - Sydney are one of only two sides that Gold Coast have never beaten.
    * GWS Giants (SO) - The hardest game of the ones to come.
    * St Kilda (SCG) - We had a good win against them last start. Should win again.
    * Hawthorn (MCG) - Could be tricky.
    * Geelong (KP) - Sydney are one of very few sides to have beaten Geelong at Kardinia Park multiple times in the past 6 years. I suspect we must win here to keep any late run going.
    * Fremantle (SCG) - Good winning chances.
    * Adelaide (AO) - We have traditionally struggled against Adelaide but we beat them last start.
    * Carlton (SCG) - By this game, our fate will be clear. Even if we're done by this game, we should have good chances to make amends for our poor early form last start against them.

    Hardest games: Richmond, GWS, Geelong, Adelaide. If we win all the other games (we may still drop one or two), we will need to win at least one of these to be in the finals.

    But this is the 2017 season which has produced a lot of surprises. Let's just enjoy the rest of the season and not worry about whether we make the finals.
    Thanks for that. Next Saturday is freaking huge.

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