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Thread: RWO Game Day Thread - Round 14 - July 21-22

  1. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Wills View Post
    Agree - with Wet Weather rounds, Queens Birthday, Rep game PD just can not have a bye - would totally support Camden being promoted to PD, either with some financial or other support for Sydney AFL or the Giants. A great long term decision, that may face some short term pain.
    Forget the financial support as that only leads to the rest of the clubs being pissed off. Look at what everyone thinks about money being put in to East Coast and Sydney Uni. If Syd Uni win the Prems premiership that will be 2 compromised premiers in 2 years.
    Just make sure they are doing the right things with coaching, admin, facilities, and recruitment. Maybe get the AFL or Giants to help them with school visits and clinics and promotions and that should help deliver the long term outcomes they are looking for.


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    So basically give them the assistance that C-Town have been asking for from SAFL the last 15-20 Years from paid Employees, who's job it is to do so. The reality of the situation is this, with Camden, Campbelltown and SWS all within a stone's throw of each other there just isn't enough Quality Juniors coming through to have a competitive Prems or Prems 19's side. Last year Camden's 19's played in Div 1 and won 1 or 2 games. The junior competition in the area is growing but it will be a long long time until their is significant change in the current numbers feeding through from 17's to 19's and senior footy.

    In the Zone of these 3 Senior clubs there is currently 4x Under 17's teams(3rd, 4th, 5th and 1 which hasn't won a game all year), 3x Under 15's(2nd, 3rd and 6th), 3x Under 14's(2nd, 4th and 5th), 4x Under 13's teams(1 in Div 1 running last, 3 in Div 2 running 4th, 5th and 6th). So you can safely assume that in the Next 5-6 Years that there will hardly be a massive influx of Premier Division Quality 19's coming through head to Camden once you factor in drop off rates as well as the ones that head to Campbelltown, SWS as well as Wollondilly who will also try to recruit from the area also.

    The area definitely needs a Premier Division Presence but the way it is structured now leaves it destined to failure again.




    Quote Originally Posted by andreww1 View Post
    Forget the financial support as that only leads to the rest of the clubs being pissed off. Look at what everyone thinks about money being put in to East Coast and Sydney Uni. If Syd Uni win the Prems premiership that will be 2 compromised premiers in 2 years.
    Just make sure they are doing the right things with coaching, admin, facilities, and recruitment. Maybe get the AFL or Giants to help them with school visits and clinics and promotions and that should help deliver the long term outcomes they are looking for.


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  3. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Nuttsy View Post
    So basically give them the assistance that C-Town have been asking for from SAFL the last 15-20 Years from paid Employees, who's job it is to do so. The reality of the situation is this, with Camden, Campbelltown and SWS all within a stone's throw of each other there just isn't enough Quality Juniors coming through to have a competitive Prems or Prems 19's side. Last year Camden's 19's played in Div 1 and won 1 or 2 games. The junior competition in the area is growing but it will be a long long time until their is significant change in the current numbers feeding through from 17's to 19's and senior footy.

    In the Zone of these 3 Senior clubs there is currently 4x Under 17's teams(3rd, 4th, 5th and 1 which hasn't won a game all year), 3x Under 15's(2nd, 3rd and 6th), 3x Under 14's(2nd, 4th and 5th), 4x Under 13's teams(1 in Div 1 running last, 3 in Div 2 running 4th, 5th and 6th). So you can safely assume that in the Next 5-6 Years that there will hardly be a massive influx of Premier Division Quality 19's coming through head to Camden once you factor in drop off rates as well as the ones that head to Campbelltown, SWS as well as Wollondilly who will also try to recruit from the area also.

    The area definitely needs a Premier Division Presence but the way it is structured now leaves it destined to failure again.
    So isn't the answer obvious? 3 weak clubs will not have the resources to create a strong profile and grow the game. But one strong club in that area should. It then gives all clubs, players, and officials the opportunity to create one very strong community organisation that participates in the top levels of AFL and provide pathways and a competitive and enjoyable game day experience. Time to put the old rivalries aside and capitalise on the GWS momentum. Who knows in a few years time there may not be that opportunity?


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    [QUOTE=andreww1;733130]So isn't the answer obvious? 3 weak clubs will not have the resources to create a strong profile and grow the game. But one strong club in that area should. It then gives all clubs, players, and officials the opportunity to create one very strong community organisation that participates in the top levels of AFL and provide pathways and a competitive and enjoyable game day experience. Time to put the old rivalries aside and capitalise on the GWS momentum. Who knows in a few years time there may not be that opportunity?

    Just spoke to JL breifly and he said they will 100% be pushing hard to take on that 10th spot in 2018. In the 5min chat he mentioned some very good and out of the box ideas they are running with already or looking into.

    He did also say that potentially the Camden club is or does have more depth than some bottom five Prem Div clubs which was an interesting comment.

    He also said if they dont take the 10th spot for whatever reason that the club stands risk of going backwards and all the hard work and great culture built over the past 5 years could slow things down or worst case go backwards.

    Agree time to move forward and get the 10th spot filled asap with whomever is selected but western sydney would be key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andreww1 View Post
    So isn't the answer obvious? 3 weak clubs will not have the resources to create a strong profile and grow the game. But one strong club in that area should. It then gives all clubs, players, and officials the opportunity to create one very strong community organisation that participates in the top levels of AFL and provide pathways and a competitive and enjoyable game day experience. Time to put the old rivalries aside and capitalise on the GWS momentum. Who knows in a few years time there may not be that opportunity?

    Just spoke to JL breifly and he said they will 100% be pushing hard to take on that 10th spot in 2018. In the 5min chat he mentioned some very good and out of the box ideas they are running with already or looking into.

    He did also say that potentially the Camden club is or does have more depth than some bottom five Prem Div clubs which was an interesting comment.

    He also said if they dont take the 10th spot for whatever reason that the club stands risk of going backwards and all the hard work and great culture built over the past 5 years could slow things down or worst case go backwards.

    Agree time to move forward and get the 10th spot filled asap with whomever is selected but western sydney would be key.
    I'm also hearing at least one of the three clubs won't be around next year due to poor results over the last few years players planning to exit.


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  6. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by saviour01 View Post
    Pay them to use the ground.
    Wonder how much more they are willing to give ece after the debacle of them being so poorly run then the SAFL having to bail them out. Wonder how much more they will get at the expense of other clubs.


    I would presume the ground would be booked with the Council. Not ECE
    Would they pay St George for OLDs Park ? You keep Bagging ECE unfairly - I think you should worry about your club MINNIBUS
    On the weekend at Norths & ECE game, ECE did the BBQ and Canteen with help from Norths players and worked very well for both clubs working together. Was very happy with their Eagle Burger and then the pancakes.
    Good game but can't see anyone beating UNSWES or SU

  7. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by andreww1 View Post
    So isn't the answer obvious? 3 weak clubs will not have the resources to create a strong profile and grow the game. But one strong club in that area should. It then gives all clubs, players, and officials the opportunity to create one very strong community organisation that participates in the top levels of AFL and provide pathways and a competitive and enjoyable game day experience. Time to put the old rivalries aside and capitalise on the GWS momentum. Who knows in a few years time there may not be that opportunity?

    Just spoke to JL breifly and he said they will 100% be pushing hard to take on that 10th spot in 2018. In the 5min chat he mentioned some very good and out of the box ideas they are running with already or looking into.

    He did also say that potentially the Camden club is or does have more depth than some bottom five Prem Div clubs which was an interesting comment.

    He also said if they dont take the 10th spot for whatever reason that the club stands risk of going backwards and all the hard work and great culture built over the past 5 years could slow things down or worst case go backwards.

    Agree time to move forward and get the 10th spot filled asap with whomever is selected but western sydney would be key.
    Sean Spicer has a new gig as the Camden press manager?

    Could it drop to an 8 team comp if no ones banging on the door?

  8. #32
    Gusty effort from Manly. As I understand they had 15 players aged under 20 in the Prems. They competed with Penno well for three quarters, and led at half time, only to lose concentration in the third quarter.

    Other than a couple of senior guys like Lachie Kilpatrick, their core consisted of 16 and 17 year olds like Kyle Martin, Sam Wicks, Jarrod Osborne and Mitchell Rogers. There were many players from the under 19s team that has not won a game all year.

    Watching the game and the coach Michael Ford, there is actually a pretty good vibe. There is an air of excitement that so many kids are getting blooded in Prems and talk about what the next couple of years might be like.

  9. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Clubman View Post
    You keep Bagging ECE unfairly - I think you should worry about your club MINNIBUS
    On the weekend at Norths & ECE game, ECE did the BBQ and Canteen with help from Norths players and worked very well for both clubs working together. Was very happy with their Eagle Burger and then the pancakes.
    Good game but can't see anyone beating UNSWES or SU
    Should consider a merger, the $1.2m they wasted could buy a lot of eagles burgers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saviour01 View Post
    Should consider a merger, the $1.2m they wasted could buy a lot of eagles burgers.
    1.2m???

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  12. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by mrns View Post
    1.2m???
    Yup thats right. 250k x 3 years from afl - proven.

    And then they overspent by 500k (I do think last years annual report said current 400k debt but I heard total 500k). Hence going to declare bankruptcy until AFL stepped in. Don't understand how 3 of those board members are still around the club. Must be a very good burger.

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