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    For me towers is purely in the team as a run with because we want our other outside players to not have to tag or run with
    We don't have many quick guys
    Towers role is to negate the impact of outside player matchups

    Simples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markwebbos View Post
    Newman has 68 tackles at an average of 4 per game. Towers 47 at an average of 3.1

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    Towers has speed and height on his side. If he was slow / short he'd have a different career.
    Newman does play as a defender, so he should be tackling.

    If towers was slow and short he'd be an accountant.

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    This debate re: Towers v Newman is relevant given the pressure for positions, but we need to keep in mind there are others also applying pressure and this is great for the club if not for the individuals being overlooked.

    The preference for a settled team is a proven recipe for success. Newman has been guilty of turnovers at critical moments but he has also been responsible for winning some critically important one-on-one contests. His balance, his timing and his cool head will be missed this week.

    Towers has been fulfilling a role, he may not be getting many possessions, but clearly the coaching staff have been content with whatever he's doing.

    As an unabashed Allir fan, I firmly believe there is still a position for him in our best 22 but looking at the list this week, I can only see him getting there at the expense of either Sinclair, Towers or Tippett. Clearly his role in the ruck in the reserves last week, may be heralding similar thinking from the match committee.

    Yet, the preference for a settled team is a proven recipe for success and I cannot fault either Sinclair nor Tippett on their current form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post
    He was injured last week and played only half a game. He shouldn't be judged on this one game.
    50% is 50%. With little pressure coming through the centre with an insipid Freo. Doesn't matter that he is injured.

    And I agree with you on Newman vs Towers (you clearly haven't noticed my consistent vitriol towards him) and personally would prefer to see Kenny out there than the deer in headlights that we've had to endure this season. Clearly Horse sees a structure that Towers fits in to, though. Cunningham will likely replace him, with the quicks vs slows balance Horse is implementing.
    C'mon Chels!

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    Quote Originally Posted by penga View Post
    50% is 50%. With little pressure coming through the centre with an insipid Freo. Doesn't matter that he is injured.
    It's just a small sample size of 12 disposals weighed against a usually good disposal efficiency over the course of the season, so I don't think it's indicative of how he's been playing. Quite often our best players, Parker, Kennedy and Hannebery have the worst DE% in games.

    An interesting thing about footy stats is that they can often be misleading. One for instance is the clanger count. You would think a high count would reflect poorly on a player. But if you look at the league totals, it almost mirrors a Brownlow Medal count. I'll give you the top six: Dustin Martin, Tom Mitchell, Taylor Adams, Luke Parker, Dayne Zorko and Patrick Dangerfield. The top clanger specialists nearly constitute an All Australian side.

    Defenders usually have good DE%s because they get a lot of disposals to open players, while players in contested situations often have to dispose of the ball under pressure, or just get a bail out kick, which hurts this stat. Yes, 50% is 50%, but it may not tell you all that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post
    An interesting thing about footy stats is that they can often be misleading. One for instance is the clanger count. You would think a high count would reflect poorly on a player. But if you look at the league totals, it almost mirrors a Brownlow Medal count. I'll give you the top six: Dustin Martin, Tom Mitchell, Taylor Adams, Luke Parker, Dayne Zorko and Patrick Dangerfield. The top clanger specialists nearly constitute an All Australian side.
    I know what you're saying, and am not in complete disagreeance with you, and am a big fan of Newman's. However, all of those boys you listed are contested ball kings. The higher the contested possession, the higher the clanger rate. Newman is an outside player, so therefore his DE% should be higher, even than the high 60s, IMO. As I said in my original post, he is creative and at least tries to do something with the ball, rather than the Nick Smith down the line, or the Towers kick off one step at halfback. I firmly believe Newman has a massive future for us, but his dropping and late recall did a treat earlier in the season, and perhaps the coaches are trying to motivate him again. I'm just trying to walk in the coaches' shoes.
    C'mon Chels!

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    Joey had to come back in......they're just playing it safe with Newman.

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