Match Day Thread Rnd 22 Adelaide V Sydney. Adelaide Oval 19.50 pm. Or 19.20 ACST.

**crackedactor** · 23rd August 2017, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by swannymum

Seems a lot of attention on Buddy's long run before the goal and the Mills incident, yet no real interest in the ridiculous imbalance in application of frees in the other 99% of the game. Why do we have to put up with this rubbish?

I would even settle for an explanation of the Charlie Cameron free kick in the 3rd quarter. I have watched it ten times and still believe it should have been a push in the back to Lloyd, but unbiased umpire said it was a Cameron free kick.
WTF?

**ugg** · 23rd August 2017, 01:23 PM

A different angle of Papley's winning goal. Incredibly lucky or pure skill?!

Frame by frame. Shoulder of God. pic.twitter.com/BxMDNQZDJg
— Scott (@RestingPlayers) August 21, 2017

**RogueSwan** · 23rd August 2017, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by ugg

A different angle of Papley's winning goal. Incredibly lucky or pure skill?!

His skill created his luck?
Skill-wise he put himself in a good position and was looking for Franklin to knock it forward to him and luck in that everyone miss judged the flight of the ball and it landed in Tom's hands (via his shoulder)

**Sandrevan** · 23rd August 2017, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by barry

The day we drop towers, is the day we kiss the premiership goodbye.
Horse knows it, and deep down you all know it too.

What's with the love affair with Dean Towers. He has strung some games together this year which is great. I, along with many others thought he was pretty ordinary against Adelaide and could be dropped for Newman to come back in.

Sincere question - What makes you so confident Dean won't be dropped? Do you know something none of us do? Please enlighten us.

**crackedactor** · 23rd August 2017, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by ugg

A different angle of Papley's winning goal. Incredibly lucky or pure skill?!

Frame by frame. Shoulder of God. pic.twitter.com/BxMDNQZDJg
� Scott (@RestingPlayers) August 21, 2017

90% skill and 10% luck. Was in the right place at the right time and instincts made him push forward knowing that he may get a knock on from Buddy towards goals. Personally speaking I believe Papley is something special and will be for years to come. I am imagining we will be singing the praises of him and Haywood in future as they destroy defences.

**penga** · 23rd August 2017, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Sandrevan

What's with the love affair with Dean Towers. He has strung some games together this year which is great. I, along with many others thought he was pretty ordinary against Adelaide and could be dropped for Newman to come back in.

Sincere question - What makes you so confident Dean won't be dropped? Do you know something none of us do? Please enlighten us.

He's baiting.

**bloodspirit** · 23rd August 2017, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Meg

There is another technical point that I have been mulling over. The protected zone extends to include a 5-metre semi-circle behind the player taking the kick. Betts was not on the mark - so therefore I assume he should be classed as behind the player with the kick. While he couldn't have been expected to disappear magically in the split second it took for Mills to play on, it seems to me he should not be able to tackle as he was in the 5-metre semi-circle behind Mills. (As distinct from a player in front of Mills who could have legitimately tackled had play-on be called.)

I have two thoughts to throw in the mix:

1. I haven't seen the replay but I thought Betts was in front except that Mills turned and moved laterally (albeit consistent with his momentum when he took hold of the ball). So, not sure if you're suggesting that the in-front-of/behind axis runs according to the direction of the player's movement or the direction between the opposite goals. I would suggest it is the latter.

2. Where a player plays on immediately perhaps the rule about the protected zone never comes into effect.

Re: Papley - luck or skill

It's both. I think Papley was either judging that the ball would land in front of or next to him and he would regather or that it would be knocked on by Buddy. Pretty much that was what happened. This was smart. When the ball actually landed on his shoulder (which was really akin to a falcon) he adjusted adroitly and took possession without breaking stride - great skill although it was lucky the ball bounced in such a way that enabled him to do that.

**Nico** · 23rd August 2017, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by penga

I was pondering this, also. Where, in essence, Betts was "offside".

If you look closely Betts was holding Mills when he marked it and didn't let go. So could have been a 50 for that for deliberately holding up the game/time wasting. The closest umpire not making the call was a timing issue with him. Troy Pannell was looking straight at the contest and whistled first. Hope we get him in the finals.

**liz** · 23rd August 2017, 05:55 PM

There's a bit of luck involved in many contests. What Papley did well is be decisive. He knew he had the pace to break away from the contest if he got into motion. There was some luck in how the ball fell into his hands, but even if it hadn't (maybe it had hit the ground) he would still have been in a good position to contest and maybe win the ball.

**Nico** · 23rd August 2017, 06:33 PM

Nice finish though.

**Hotpotato** · 23rd August 2017, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by liz

There's a bit of luck involved in many contests. What Papley did well is be decisive. He knew he had the pace to break away from the contest if he got into motion. There was some luck in how the ball fell into his hands, but even if it hadn't (maybe it had hit the ground) he would still have been in a good position to contest and maybe win the ball.

How did the pill end up in his mitts , it was like a magic trick on Australia's Got Talent .