Thanks AB, I managed to briefly open article via Facebook which is written by Sam Landsberger which seems to me is a opinion piece. Copied/pasted the following as rest of the article just repeats what I'd outlined above in my previous post. Effectively we get a 2nd round pick for a AA player who has 3 years remaining on his contract. No thanks!
ST KILDA will be asked to trade its prized first-round draft pick — probably No.3, 4 or 5 — as part of a deal to secure Dan Hannebery.
The Saints would receive back Sydney’s first-round pick — currently No.13 — under the potential trade, according to figures familiar with negotiations.
Under the AFL’s draft points index, the exchange of first-round picks would mean St Kilda would effectively “pay” the equivalent of a pick in the 20s for the premiership Swan.
Sydney could also ask for a sweetener, such as a future pick, given the Saints have deemed the midfielder worthy of a contract until 2022 or 2023.
St Kilda's next pick in the 2018 draft is pick 57.
As long as we can get blakey with our current pick plus a later one why swap a mere 10 picks or there abouts for hannas
What a waste our pick this year still hasnt played why dump a guaranteed top 10 in our 22 for a pick who may not even play.
Im sure with an accumilation of picks we can still get blakey
Give Ling and Blakey a chance for the 22 we got Daqson and Mcartin this year plus CoR plus bring in a trade or free agent
Why grab another pup and lose a guy who can be a star
It's amazing how often he has got it wrong with 1st round picks...Lewis Johnston, Josh Willoughby, Daniel O'Keefe etc...
But got it so right with 2nd and 3rd round picks...Parker, Hannebery, Aliir, Hewitt, McCartin etc...
Then there's the Rookie selections, which are off the scale...Smith, Lloyd, Rampe, Grundy, Melican, Papley, Jack etc etc
I wonder why this anomaly has occurred.
Is it spending too much time over analysing and over thinking the 1st rounders? And less time and more just gut feel for the rookie picks.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT
Some of those first round picks pre-date Beatson. He was at the club in a consultant role when we selected Veszpremi but wasn't in charge. His first selection heading up the recruitment team was Johnston.
Beatson's first round selection record has been a little distorted by three years where there was no real decision to be made - Mitchell, Heeney, Mills. His active selections have included Rohan, Jetta, Towers, Jones, Florent, Hayward and Ling.
The Swans are not demanding anything. The HS article says industry sources believe a swap of picks would be necessary. Harley said on SEN that he is not going to give any oxygen to the story as Hannebery is contracted and he hasn't requested a trade. All paper talk based on St Kilda attention seeking.
Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.
Had this sorted out last week.
It looks like St Kilda will end up with pick 4. Carlton are likely to take Sam Walsh. The Suns will probably take Lukosius and either Rankine or Smith. My guess is Smith. And we would take whoever is left over. Both are very good.
So a probable outcome would be:
- We lose Hanners
- We get Rankine and Blakey in the draft.
- We get St Kilda's 2019 2nd round pick. There would be some later round pick swaps.
- We sign a free agent like Gaff or Dahlhaus.
If we can't achieve this kind of outcome, I don't think the deal gets done. If we can achieve this kind of outcome, the deal would be too good to turn down.
It's nothing to do with how good Hanners is. It's just a matter of value. Other than through top shelf academy picks, we rarely get into the top end of the draft, so when an opportunity presents itself, it's worth taken a hard look at it.
One example of the net effect of all this is that we trade Hanners for Gaff and Izak Rankine. Who wouldn't do that trade?
Last edited by Ludwig; 14th August 2018 at 12:46 PM.
Could be we think we can turn a pick 3 or 4 into some later first round/ early second round picks that would allow us to get Blakey but have something to bargain with at the trade table also ?
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Back when we did have those high draft picks there was much less analysis on players and there was more uncertainty on draft selections. It is completely different now. As successful as KB has been, had those players gone to Saints or Demons, I doubt that they would be anywhere near the current players they are. Our record also goes to show the importance of creating an environment which is conducive to maximising youth development.
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