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    I am very happy to read after getting home from dinner that Lloyd has resigned. Great news.

    Someone earlier indicated that St Kilda would swap their No 4 pick for Hannebery. In the words of Darryl Kerrigan from the movie, the Castle, “Tell him his dreaming”. Second round pick coming our way at best. Sorry to say that but it’s the reality of Hanners’ current market value.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Dawg View Post
    No not sarcastic, I followed a link from here (can't remember which one) which had the comings and goings summarized and was shocked to see GWS Sam Reid listed as a signing?! AFL Trade News & Rumours | Zero Hanger
    That’s what it says!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Dawg View Post
    No not sarcastic, I followed a link from here (can't remember which one) which had the comings and goings summarized and was shocked to see GWS Sam Reid listed as a signing?! AFL Trade News & Rumours | Zero Hanger
    Looks like whoever compiled the list, may not be aware that there are two Sam Reids. If you click on the name, Sam Reid, on the list, you get a picture of the Sam Reid that we already have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markwebbos View Post
    That’s what it says!
    But if you click the 'Sam Reid' link it sends you here: Sam Reid | Sydney Swans | Player profile, AFL contract, stats and news | Zero Hanger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aprilbr View Post
    I am very happy to read after getting home from dinner that Lloyd has resigned. Great news.
    Yep! Eases the horror of Collingwood making the Grand Final!

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    I like this quote from Tom Harley. I think it's the right way to look at things:

    "Our overall mandate is to get better and we do that by providing the best overall environment for our players to thrive, and that will always be our focus."

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    “But once we decide enough is enough, Then you will be dead to us and we’ll trade you out to make way for someone better*”

    *Andrew Gaff maybe

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    Quote Originally Posted by aardvark View Post
    Trade week doesn't start for 2 weeks. Besides one Sam Reid is more than enough.
    +1.

    This rumour has been going around for a while but GWS Sam Reid is very average and has been delisted a couple of times so why we would be interested in him amazes me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Dawg View Post
    No not sarcastic, I followed a link from here (can't remember which one) which had the comings and goings summarized and was shocked to see GWS Sam Reid listed as a signing?! AFL Trade News & Rumours | Zero Hanger
    Zero hanger has been saying that for weeks. I'm sure it's a typo or admin error.

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    FFS. Will people stop saying resigned when they mean re-signed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.S. Bleeder View Post
    +1.

    This rumour has been going around for a while but GWS Sam Reid is very average and has been delisted a couple of times so why we would be interested in him amazes me.

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    Zero hanger has been saying that for weeks. I'm sure it's a typo or admin error.

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    FFS. Will people stop saying resigned when they mean re-signed.
    A big difference between resigned and re-signed.
    I agree that a few times I have had heart palpations when the headlines says resigned when they mean re-signed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.S. Bleeder View Post
    +1.

    This rumour has been going around for a while but GWS Sam Reid is very average and has been delisted a couple of times so why we would be interested in him amazes me..
    Spare parts for the other Sam Reid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 707 View Post
    So interesting Barrett that the one player we really wanted to re-sign has put pen to a four year contract. Pathetic rumour monger is Barrett, his Sliding Doors column is often cringe worthy.
    Barrett also said that despite Parker saying on Twitter that he is going nowhere, there is still a chance he will end up at Essendon. I hope he is also wrong with this one as well!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post
    The definition of what constitutes an inside midfielder, and midfielder in general, is blurring. Now an inside midfielder is what we might call a stoppage specialist. It doesn't meant that it's all they do, but represents the player's point of difference. I think of Florent, Ronke, Ling and Stoddart as midfielders. I still expect them to win contested possessions, but not so much at stoppages.

    If we want to play the tried and true Swans footy of the past dozen years or so, then maybe we can just continue piling up inside mids. But I think we need to continue the change to more of an outside game, especially since we don't have a proven dominant ruckman. A stoppage focused game really only favours Kennedy, which is important, but he is 30 and probably not in our next premiership. The rest, like Heeney and Mills, can go with a more balanced game. This past year convinced me that we have to get out of the stoppage focused game plan.
    I don't think it's about choosing a stoppage based plan. It's about recognising that football today tends towards high pressure and contests. Sure, the good teams use the ball well and have plenty of run, but they can also win the ball in close. We spent most of this year in defence because our ability to win centre clearances, or create turnovers in and around the forward 50 and middle of the ground was way down on previous years.

    I'm not suggesting the club should "continue piling up inside mids", just that there needs to be a balance between those who can win the ball and those who can use it. Sure, it would be great if every player to pull on a red and white guernsey was brilliant at both, but it doesn't work that way. We have literally NO onballers in our NEAFL side - not ones likely to play that way in the senior team in the foreseeable future. If we don't start developing the next generation but rather focus entirely on "outside run", we'll land up like Essendon - plenty of pretty ball users but with too few who can win their own ball. That's great when you can get the game played on your terms, but not when you need to get down and dirty, as Essendon discovered in the 2017 finals series.

    It comes down to balance.

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