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    Quote Originally Posted by CureTheSane View Post
    Nobody is suggesting that an aggressive style of play and demeanour is causing the free kicks against the team.
    Simply, we have 2 choices here
    1. The umpires are biased against the Swans
    2. The team is not careful enough not to give away frees when playing.

    As much as people like to think 1, is at play, in reality it isn't.
    To reduce frees being given away, some motions and lazy actions need to be bred out of the team.
    The question is - is it worthwhile and more effort required than the benefits it may bring?
    Does the differential have that much of an impact on the game (generally - take out anomalies like 2016 GF)
    Um, isn't the fact that it does have an impact on the single most important game of the year - the game that's the POINT of the whole damn season - a bit of an issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velour&Ruffles View Post
    Um, isn't the fact that it does have an impact on the single most important game of the year - the game that's the POINT of the whole damn season - a bit of an issue?
    Weird.
    One post you're agreeing that long term stats are a representation of a trend.
    Then in the very next post you want to single out one particular game.

    So your contention is that the average differential in free kicks is due to umpiring against the Swans?
    And given that the Swans were umpired by many different individual umpires during the season, I guess they are also colluding amongst themselves to target the Swans?

    Here's a much more realistic proposition.
    That the team infringes more than most other teams.
    No umpire bias, no conspiracies, no hatred for the Swans.

    It should be able to be trained out of the side, like it has in other sides as per the stats in the table posted.
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    sorry, didn't really read your post properly and was at cross purposes.

    My thinking was that while any individual game is not by itself good evidence of bias, the individual game may still be afflicted by bias and that that still matters.

    But that wasn't really relevant to what you were saying. I will read more carefully in the future.
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    No problems.

    I think everyone here agrees that the 2016 GF was either consciously or subconsciously unfairly umpired for a range of reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CureTheSane View Post
    No problems.

    I think everyone here agrees that the 2016 GF was either consciously or subconsciously unfairly umpired for a range of reasons.
    .....and all of them are inexcusable.

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