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  1. #505
    Gary Buckenara describes Cody H as:

    “Given a chance as an over-age player at the Ranges, Hirst has great speed and has been able to use that to influence games from the wing this season. He was talked about as a possible rookie pick last year but missed out. He’s still developing and probably isn’t ready to play at AFL level yet, but a club that rates him highly could lock him away early to start developing him in their system rather than waiting until the national draft.”

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    He hasn’t included Kyle Dunkley in his list. Not sure why. His top 5 across all positions are:

    1. Corey Gault

    2. Sam Lowson

    3. Nathan Mullenger-McHugh

    4. Marlion Pickett

    5. Campbell Hustwaite

  2. #506
    Project manager shapes as Mid-Season Draft bolter - AFL.com.au

    Also, this from AFL.com.au - Page Not Found

    What do they need? The Swans are going through a rebuild and have a few different positions they could look to fill, including down back and through the middle. A younger contested ball-winner might be on the menu, or maybe they go on the hunt for more speed.

    Who's available? Kyle Dunkley is unlikely to still be on the board. Midfielder Josh Deluca spent four years on Fremantle's list, was best afield in last year's WAFL Grand Final and won the medal as the state league's best player against the SANFL a week-and-a-half ago. Dandenong Stingrays onballer Mitch Riordan and Eastern Ranges winger Cody Hirst may also appeal.

    Do they have a pick? Yes, Kurt Tippett's official retirement has given the Swans the flexibility to add a player to their list and their pick is likely to be in the top five.

    The whisper: Unless the Blues get in first, Deluca's AFL lifeline seems likely to be at Sydney, one of five clubs to speak to him. - MM

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    Reg retiring, could we be having two picks next Monday if the players we like make it through to a second rounder? This is in reality a free trial of a player/s

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugg View Post
    One of the first articles to come up when you Google Josh Deluca

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/wa-footbal...123627791.html
    ....but there is also this article: Mid-Season Rookie Draft: What your club needs, the whisper - AFL.com.au

    ....which has this re: Deluca.

    " Midfielder Josh Deluca spent four years on Fremantle's list, was best afield in last year's WAFL Grand Final and won the medal as the state league's best player against the SANFL a week-and-a-half ago."

    Sounds like he's improving and worth a look.....but then the club may decide he doesn't fit our 'no dickheads' policy, due to the former mentioned article. However, they have talked to him already.

  5. #509
    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph Dawg View Post
    Do you think Liz that the club views him as a potential inside mid? His brother has moved back into the centre with great success and various "experts" have described him as like Josh.
    My understanding is that Kyle is essentially an inside mid who can also play half-fwd as he did in his game for Footscray and that his performances as an inside mid is what has attracted the attention of scouts. Someone else might be able to confirm this?

  6. #510
    Quote Originally Posted by Bexl View Post
    I don't know where t o post this so I put it here. I hope an official from Sydney will contact the corupt afl ro find out if Boyd's $1000,000 contract will be counted in its entirety in the dogs salary cap and if not why not.
    It will be counted in their cap for this year but not for next year.

    Apparently the difference is that Buddy was a free agent whilst Boyd was a traded player.

    What I would love to know is;
    * Have any free agents retired prematurely previously and if so, how were their retirements treated?
    * Does this rule apply to any other current players other than Buddy?
    * Was this a rule that was only introduced when we recruited Buddy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.S. Bleeder View Post
    It will be counted in their cap for this year but not for next year.

    Apparently the difference is that Buddy was a free agent whilst Boyd was a traded player.

    What I would love to know is;
    * Have any free agents retired prematurely previously and if so, how were their retirements treated?
    * Does this rule apply to any other current players other than Buddy?
    * Was this a rule that was only introduced when we recruited Buddy?
    It was a ruling only for Buddy

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  8. #512
    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post
    I can see the difference, but the lucrative offer by the fairypups would have been a big influence in him seeking a trade to start with. And GWS may have had the option of matching it to keep him.
    Good point Barry. In essence it is a very similar situation.

    The AFL argued that our offer to Buddy put him out of the range of Hawthorn and other clubs. However, isn't that what the Bulldogs did by offering a second year player over a million $ a year?

    It really is hard to argue that a different rule should apply to us.

  9. #513
    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Wizard View Post
    Here is a list of the current draft order base on this week ladder.
    I have vlookup all the trade from last year for each round so its accurate.
    With Carlton on the bottom, our Four Round trade for Newman is looking quite good.
    But we need to trade our some players; both for picks and salary cap relief.
    There is some good young talent out there, we just have to aggressive in targeting them.
    Would love to get Balta and Bolton from the Tigers; they look brilliant against the Hawks with plenty of upside still there.

    Indicative draft order after round six Draft Pick #
    ROUND ONE Round One
    ADEL1 Adelaide
    NMFC2 North Melbourne
    GCFC3 Gold Coast
    MELB4 Melbourne
    SYD 5 Sydney Swans
    STK 6 St Kilda
    WB 7 Western Bulldogs
    HAW 8 Hawthorn
    GWS 9 GWS Giants
    FRE 10 Fremantle
    PORT11 Port Adelaide
    CARL 12 Carlton
    WCE 13 West Coast
    RICH 14 Richmond
    GCFC15 Gold Coast
    GWS 16 GWS Giants
    BL 17 Brisbane
    GEEL 18 Geelong Cats
    ROUND TWO Round Two
    ADEL19 Adelaide
    NMFC20 North Melbourne
    BL 21 Brisbane
    MELB22 Melbourne
    WCE 23 West Coast
    SYD 24 Sydney Swans
    WB 25 Western Bulldogs
    HAW 26 Hawthorn
    ESS 27 Essendon
    FRE 28 Fremantle
    PORT29 Port Adelaide
    ADEL30 Adelaide
    WCE 31 West Coast
    RICH 32 Richmond
    BL 33 Brisbane
    ESS 34 Essendon
    COLL 35 Collingwood
    GEEL 36 Geelong Cats
    ROUND THREE Round Three
    CARL 37 Carlton
    NMFC38 North Melbourne
    RICH 39 Richmond
    MELB40 Melbourne
    SYD 41 Sydney Swans
    WB 42 Western Bulldogs
    WB 43 Western Bulldogs
    WB 44 Western Bulldogs
    ESS 45 Essendon
    BL 46 Brisbane
    HAW 47 Hawthorn
    CARL 48 Carlton
    SYD 49 Sydney Swans
    GCFC50 Gold Coast
    BL 51 Brisbane
    GWS 52 GWS Giants
    COLL 53 Collingwood
    GEEL 54 Geelong Cats
    ROUND FOUR Round Four
    SYD 55 Sydney Swans
    PORT56 Port Adelaide
    STK 57 St Kilda
    MELB58 Melbourne
    SYD 59 Sydney Swans
    WCE 60 West Coast
    WB 61 Western Bulldogs
    COLL 62 Collingwood
    ESS 63 Essendon
    ESS 64 Essendon
    PORT65 Port Adelaide
    PORT66 Port Adelaide
    STK 67 St Kilda
    RICH 68 Richmond
    NMFC69 North Melbourne
    CARL 70 Carlton
    COLL 71 Collingwood
    GEEL 72 Geelong Cats
    ROUND FIVE Round Five
    GWS 73 GWS Giants
    NMFC74 North Melbourne
    GCFC75 Gold Coast
    MELB76 Melbourne
    SYD 77 Sydney Swans
    STK 78 St Kilda
    WB 79 Western Bulldogs
    HAW 80 Hawthorn
    ESS 81 Essendon
    FRE 82 Fremantle
    PORT83 Port Adelaide
    CARL 84 Carlton
    GCFC85 Gold Coast
    RICH 86 Richmond
    BL 87 Brisbane
    GWS 88 GWS Giants
    HAW 89 Hawthorn
    GEEL 90 Geelong Cats
    Surely, Adelaide don't get Carltons pick until the end of the year? I wouldn't have thought that pick swaps applied to the mid season draft.

  10. #514
    Quote Originally Posted by wolftone57 View Post
    It was a ruling only for Buddy

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    There were a whole load of very dubious deals done when the Hawks recruited Ty Vickery on a 3 year deal that ended up only being 2. Who then retired after one year.

  11. #515
    Quote Originally Posted by S.S. Bleeder View Post
    It really is hard to argue that a different rule should apply to us.
    Which is why they have never made that argument in any meaningful way in any public forum. They just did us over and never explained why. And the sports media never called them to account.

  12. #516
    Does anyone know why we don't seem to have an additional mid season draft selection on account of Maibaum's season ending injury? Or do we, and has it just been overlooked?

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