2019 trading, drafting and list management: players and personnel

[Markwebbos]

Gary Buckenara describes Cody H as:

“Given a chance as an over-age player at the Ranges, Hirst has great speed and has been able to use that to influence games from the wing this season. He was talked about as a possible rookie pick last year but missed out. He’s still developing and probably isn’t ready to play at AFL level yet, but a club that rates him highly could lock him away early to start developing him in their system rather than waiting until the national draft.”

Category: | Herald Sun

He hasn’t included Kyle Dunkley in his list. Not sure why. His top 5 across all positions are:

1. Corey Gault

2. Sam Lowson

3. Nathan Mullenger-McHugh

4. Marlion Pickett

5. Campbell Hustwaite

[bloodspirit]

Project manager shapes as Mid-Season Draft bolter - AFL.com.au

Also, this from AFL.com.au - Page Not Found

What do they need? The Swans are going through a rebuild and have a few different positions they could look to fill, including down back and through the middle. A younger contested ball-winner might be on the menu, or maybe they go on the hunt for more speed.

Who's available? Kyle Dunkley is unlikely to still be on the board. Midfielder Josh Deluca spent four years on Fremantle's list, was best afield in last year's WAFL Grand Final and won the medal as the state league's best player against the SANFL a week-and-a-half ago. Dandenong Stingrays onballer Mitch Riordan and Eastern Ranges winger Cody Hirst may also appeal.

Do they have a pick? Yes, Kurt Tippett's official retirement has given the Swans the flexibility to add a player to their list and their pick is likely to be in the top five.

The whisper: Unless the Blues get in first, Deluca's AFL lifeline seems likely to be at Sydney, one of five clubs to speak to him. - MM

[707]

Reg retiring, could we be having two picks next Monday if the players we like make it through to a second rounder? This is in reality a free trial of a player/s

[stevoswan]

One of the first articles to come up when you Google Josh Deluca

https://au.news.yahoo.com/wa-footbal...123627791.html

....but there is also this article: Mid-Season Rookie Draft: What your club needs, the whisper - AFL.com.au

....which has this re: Deluca.

" Midfielder Josh Deluca spent four years on Fremantle's list, was best afield in last year's WAFL Grand Final and won the medal as the state league's best player against the SANFL a week-and-a-half ago."

Sounds like he's improving and worth a look.....but then the club may decide he doesn't fit our 'no dickheads' policy, due to the former mentioned article. However, they have talked to him already.

[S.S. Bleeder]

Do you think Liz that the club views him as a potential inside mid? His brother has moved back into the centre with great success and various "experts" have described him as like Josh.

My understanding is that Kyle is essentially an inside mid who can also play half-fwd as he did in his game for Footscray and that his performances as an inside mid is what has attracted the attention of scouts. Someone else might be able to confirm this?

[S.S. Bleeder]

I don't know where t o post this so I put it here. I hope an official from Sydney will contact the corupt afl ro find out if Boyd's $1000,000 contract will be counted in its entirety in the dogs salary cap and if not why not.

It will be counted in their cap for this year but not for next year.

Apparently the difference is that Buddy was a free agent whilst Boyd was a traded player.

What I would love to know is;
* Have any free agents retired prematurely previously and if so, how were their retirements treated?
* Does this rule apply to any other current players other than Buddy?
* Was this a rule that was only introduced when we recruited Buddy?

[wolftone57]

It will be counted in their cap for this year but not for next year.

Apparently the difference is that Buddy was a free agent whilst Boyd was a traded player.

What I would love to know is;
* Have any free agents retired prematurely previously and if so, how were their retirements treated?
* Does this rule apply to any other current players other than Buddy?
* Was this a rule that was only introduced when we recruited Buddy?

It was a ruling only for Buddy

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[S.S. Bleeder]

I can see the difference, but the lucrative offer by the fairypups would have been a big influence in him seeking a trade to start with. And GWS may have had the option of matching it to keep him.

Good point Barry. In essence it is a very similar situation.

The AFL argued that our offer to Buddy put him out of the range of Hawthorn and other clubs. However, isn't that what the Bulldogs did by offering a second year player over a million $ a year?

It really is hard to argue that a different rule should apply to us.

[S.S. Bleeder]

Here is a list of the current draft order base on this week ladder.
I have vlookup all the trade from last year for each round so its accurate.
With Carlton on the bottom, our Four Round trade for Newman is looking quite good.
But we need to trade our some players; both for picks and salary cap relief.
There is some good young talent out there, we just have to aggressive in targeting them.
Would love to get Balta and Bolton from the Tigers; they look brilliant against the Hawks with plenty of upside still there.

Indicative draft order after round six Draft Pick #
ROUND ONE Round One
ADEL1 Adelaide
NMFC2 North Melbourne
GCFC3 Gold Coast
MELB4 Melbourne
SYD 5 Sydney Swans
STK 6 St Kilda
WB 7 Western Bulldogs
HAW 8 Hawthorn
GWS 9 GWS Giants
FRE 10 Fremantle
PORT11 Port Adelaide
CARL 12 Carlton
WCE 13 West Coast
RICH 14 Richmond
GCFC15 Gold Coast
GWS 16 GWS Giants
BL 17 Brisbane
GEEL 18 Geelong Cats
ROUND TWO Round Two
ADEL19 Adelaide
NMFC20 North Melbourne
BL 21 Brisbane
MELB22 Melbourne
WCE 23 West Coast
SYD 24 Sydney Swans
WB 25 Western Bulldogs
HAW 26 Hawthorn
ESS 27 Essendon
FRE 28 Fremantle
PORT29 Port Adelaide
ADEL30 Adelaide
WCE 31 West Coast
RICH 32 Richmond
BL 33 Brisbane
ESS 34 Essendon
COLL 35 Collingwood
GEEL 36 Geelong Cats
ROUND THREE Round Three
CARL 37 Carlton
NMFC38 North Melbourne
RICH 39 Richmond
MELB40 Melbourne
SYD 41 Sydney Swans
WB 42 Western Bulldogs
WB 43 Western Bulldogs
WB 44 Western Bulldogs
ESS 45 Essendon
BL 46 Brisbane
HAW 47 Hawthorn
CARL 48 Carlton
SYD 49 Sydney Swans
GCFC50 Gold Coast
BL 51 Brisbane
GWS 52 GWS Giants
COLL 53 Collingwood
GEEL 54 Geelong Cats
ROUND FOUR Round Four
SYD 55 Sydney Swans
PORT56 Port Adelaide
STK 57 St Kilda
MELB58 Melbourne
SYD 59 Sydney Swans
WCE 60 West Coast
WB 61 Western Bulldogs
COLL 62 Collingwood
ESS 63 Essendon
ESS 64 Essendon
PORT65 Port Adelaide
PORT66 Port Adelaide
STK 67 St Kilda
RICH 68 Richmond
NMFC69 North Melbourne
CARL 70 Carlton
COLL 71 Collingwood
GEEL 72 Geelong Cats
ROUND FIVE Round Five
GWS 73 GWS Giants
NMFC74 North Melbourne
GCFC75 Gold Coast
MELB76 Melbourne
SYD 77 Sydney Swans
STK 78 St Kilda
WB 79 Western Bulldogs
HAW 80 Hawthorn
ESS 81 Essendon
FRE 82 Fremantle
PORT83 Port Adelaide
CARL 84 Carlton
GCFC85 Gold Coast
RICH 86 Richmond
BL 87 Brisbane
GWS 88 GWS Giants
HAW 89 Hawthorn
GEEL 90 Geelong Cats

Surely, Adelaide don't get Carltons pick until the end of the year? I wouldn't have thought that pick swaps applied to the mid season draft.

[Markwebbos]

It was a ruling only for Buddy

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There were a whole load of very dubious deals done when the Hawks recruited Ty Vickery on a 3 year deal that ended up only being 2. Who then retired after one year.

[Bloods05]

It really is hard to argue that a different rule should apply to us.

Which is why they have never made that argument in any meaningful way in any public forum. They just did us over and never explained why. And the sports media never called them to account.

[bloodspirit]

Does anyone know why we don't seem to have an additional mid season draft selection on account of Maibaum's season ending injury? Or do we, and has it just been overlooked?