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    Longmire on SEN now (6pm Melbourne time).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernie koala View Post
    Maybe the reason McCartins concussion was not originally reported was more to do with the fact the original prognosis was of a concussion of a minor nature, which would not affect his preseason and therefore not worth reporting ...Wrong in hindsight.
    When his symptoms either didn't improve or actually got worse, the seriousness of the injury became more apparent...Not too surprising, as sometimes what appears a minor concussion can be notoriously hard to evaluate.
    I'm not one who thinks the club should be reporting every little injury that happens...That would be a never-ending long daily list of ailments..ie corks, hammy tightness, tummy ache....etc etc.
    As for the scratch match..GWS were in the same boat...No doubt many other clubs would be also.
    The fact "half our squad is not ready to play" is more to do with players having the right preparation for a RD 1 start, than it is to do with an injury crisis.
    Good post EK and you're scenario re: Tom McCartin seems sound....and it's probably about right. Maybe I jumped the gun but the way it all unfolded did invite speculation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    It's great news. I just saw a report on the Swans app, which indicates he can resume training straight away. Also puts into perspective some of our conjectures, and to my mind underscores the correctness of the club's decision initially to withhold information.
    ....only if Ernie Koala's scenario above is correct.

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    https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/...27-p510ox.html

    Concerns had arisen that McCartin could miss a significant chunk of the season, however testing from specialists allayed the club’s fears. It turned out that an issue spotted in MRI testing was an abnormality McCartin had been born with and is not expected to affect his career.

    Sydney coach John Longmire said on the club's website it had been a trying period for the McCartin family.

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    Phew. Imagine what the McCartin family must've been going through. Two sons capable of being elite AFL talent and their careers might be cut short. I hope the club is extra careful with Tom because he's going to be a gun. He and Blakey in the fwd line sounds so sweet.

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    This is fantastic news! Really happy for McCartin 😊. It's nice to hear good news for a change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevoswan View Post
    ....only if Ernie Koala's scenario above is correct.
    What's emerged is that the initial knock that led to investigation had nothing to do with what was then found, and it was that investigation that led to further concern and tests. Or, less cryptically, concern about concusion led to an MRI scan (or scans) and showed an abnormality with an artery. This abnormality of itself had nothing to do with the knock. But it had to be investigated further, as it could have been pretty serious. The outcome of further medical investigation is that he's actually had this abnormality from birth and it is not a worry, so he can resume training. So our guessing about concussion - while understandable - was wide of the mark. In a stressful time for McCartin and family, the club kept quiet until a media report (which wasn't well founded - what a surprise!) forced its hand. That's why I believe the club's decision initially to withhold information was right.

    Just as wrong as our conjectures was the frustration that I shared along with others about the lack of information. Sometimes we've just got to trust to the club's better judgement. I reckon I'd be upset and feel even more stressed if I were a player facing the kind of uncertainty McCartin did and the club put it into the media space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    What's emerged is that the initial knock that led to investigation had nothing to do with what was then found, and it was that investigation that led to further concern and tests. Or, less cryptically, concern about concusion led to an MRI scan (or scans) and showed an abnormality with an artery. This abnormality of itself had nothing to do with the knock. But it had to be investigated further, as it could have been pretty serious. The outcome of further medical investigation is that he's actually had this abnormality from birth and it is not a worry, so he can resume training. So our guessing about concussion - while understandable - was wide of the mark. In a stressful time for McCartin and family, the club kept quiet until a media report (which wasn't well founded - what a surprise!) forced its hand. That's why I believe the club's decision initially to withhold information was right.

    Just as wrong as our conjectures was the frustration that I shared along with others about the lack of information. Sometimes we've just got to trust to the club's better judgement. I reckon I'd be upset and feel even more stressed if I were a player facing the kind of uncertainty McCartin did and the club put it into the media space.
    Right on. Particularly trusting the club's better judgement; it's run by good people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    What's emerged is that the initial knock that led to investigation had nothing to do with what was then found, and it was that investigation that led to further concern and tests. Or, less cryptically, concern about concusion led to an MRI scan (or scans) and showed an abnormality with an artery. This abnormality of itself had nothing to do with the knock. But it had to be investigated further, as it could have been pretty serious. The outcome of further medical investigation is that he's actually had this abnormality from birth and it is not a worry, so he can resume training. So our guessing about concussion - while understandable - was wide of the mark. In a stressful time for McCartin and family, the club kept quiet until a media report (which wasn't well founded - what a surprise!) forced its hand. That's why I believe the club's decision initially to withhold information was right.

    Just as wrong as our conjectures was the frustration that I shared along with others about the lack of information. Sometimes we've just got to trust to the club's better judgement. I reckon I'd be upset and feel even more stressed if I were a player facing the kind of uncertainty McCartin did and the club put it into the media space.
    Great post Odysseus and yes, it all makes sense now. In hindsight it's understandable the club managed it the way they did.... I should have trusted them more but it was worrying there for a time, the way it all unfolded. Nice ending though..... Go Tom, onward and upward!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    What's emerged is that the initial knock that led to investigation had nothing to do with what was then found, and it was that investigation that led to further concern and tests. Or, less cryptically, concern about concusion led to an MRI scan (or scans) and showed an abnormality with an artery. This abnormality of itself had nothing to do with the knock. But it had to be investigated further, as it could have been pretty serious. The outcome of further medical investigation is that he's actually had this abnormality from birth and it is not a worry, so he can resume training. So our guessing about concussion - while understandable - was wide of the mark. In a stressful time for McCartin and family, the club kept quiet until a media report (which wasn't well founded - what a surprise!) forced its hand. That's why I believe the club's decision initially to withhold information was right.

    Just as wrong as our conjectures was the frustration that I shared along with others about the lack of information. Sometimes we've just got to trust to the club's better judgement. I reckon I'd be upset and feel even more stressed if I were a player facing the kind of uncertainty McCartin did and the club put it into the media space.
    Extremely well said.

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    I'd like to send a g'day to ambulance chaser Tom Browne, this never needed to be in the public domain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 707 View Post
    I'd like to send a g'day to ambulance chaser Tom Browne, this never needed to be in the public domain.
    Cheap journalism in the Damian Barrett mould

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