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    More including the unfairness of the “go home” factor

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    GWS Giants are pushing for a player retention allowance and a soft cap exemption to properly recognise the imbalances of being an AFL outpost in western Sydney.

    Sydney is both Australia’s most expensive city and also the producer of far less AFL talent than Melbourne, Geelong, Adelaide and Perth...

    “If you want to be equal in terms of the salary cap and third-party payments, but you have the least amount of players who come from that area (NSW), in the most expensive city — that by its very definition is unequal,” Campbell told The Daily Telegraph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markwebbos View Post
    More including the unfairness of the “go home” factor

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    GWS Giants are pushing for a player retention allowance and a soft cap exemption to properly recognise the imbalances of being an AFL outpost in western Sydney.

    Sydney is both Australia’s most expensive city and also the producer of far less AFL talent than Melbourne, Geelong, Adelaide and Perth...

    “If you want to be equal in terms of the salary cap and third-party payments, but you have the least amount of players who come from that area (NSW), in the most expensive city — that by its very definition is unequal,” Campbell told The Daily Telegraph.
    I thought the fact that Steve Coniglio had to fly to Melbourne last week to get his knee operated on just said it all. Even with medical
    issues there just isn't enough specialist footy orientated services in Sydney to help the players and the clubs. Everyone likes to think
    footy in Sydney has come a long way since the Swans had to train at Erskineville Oval, but in a lot of respects it hasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark26 View Post
    I'm reading Sherrin: The Family Behind the Football at the moment. Syd Sherrin was on the Collingwood Football committee and was the vice president for 20 years. In essence, the very family whose name appears on our beloved football and who helped shape the specifications of the ball itself were heavily involved in the Pies club.

    I quote "Though a Collingwood man through and through, Syd knew that all clubs needed to be financially sound. In 1930 he paid two pounds to be a life member of the South Melbourne Football Club. His financial commitment, along with other patrons at the time, was required to keep South Melbourne bouyant back then. This was a generous donation from a man who truly loved Australian Rules football."

    How different are the characters of Eddie and Syd? Both leaders of the Collingwood FC. One trying to enable and keep the competition healthy. The other trying to cripple interstate teams to maintain a Vic bias.
    It says so much about the tribal 'attitude' of today's society and the sense of entitlement some believe they have over other sections of the community today, compared to back then......sigh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark26 View Post
    I'm reading Sherrin: The Family Behind the Football at the moment. Syd Sherrin was on the Collingwood Football committee and was the vice president for 20 years. In essence, the very family whose name appears on our beloved football and who helped shape the specifications of the ball itself were heavily involved in the Pies club.

    I quote "Though a Collingwood man through and through, Syd knew that all clubs needed to be financially sound. In 1930 he paid two pounds to be a life member of the South Melbourne Football Club. His financial commitment, along with other patrons at the time, was required to keep South Melbourne bouyant back then. This was a generous donation from a man who truly loved Australian Rules football."

    How different are the characters of Eddie and Syd? Both leaders of the Collingwood FC. One trying to enable and keep the competition healthy. The other trying to cripple interstate teams to maintain a Vic bias.
    Nearly 100 years ago, this bloke (Syd Sherrin) hit the nail on head. Unless the whole league is strong, then what is victory over
    the other teams in that league worth?

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    I can vouch for the fact that Giants players don't all live in the west. I live in the east and see them around all the time. I know for a fact Callan Ward lives in the east (neighbour of an acquaintance). I saw Jeremy Cameron in Bronte pool on Saturday morning with his girlfriend before he went on to kick 6 against the Pies that afternoon. I saw Toby Greene and Josh Kelly down at the beach recently etc etc.

    I think they won't bring back COLA - it would be too embarrassing given how controversial it was in the first place - however maybe there is some hope of some other kind of relief (maybe with the soft cap in addition to the living allowance) but I wouldn't be surprised if it is drafted in a way to advantage the Swans less than other clubs. The Victorian powers (especially Eddie) begrudge Sydney our success and can target us without getting one another's noses out of joint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodspirit View Post
    I can vouch for the fact that Giants players don't all live in the west. I live in the east and see them around all the time. I know for a fact Callan Ward lives in the east (neighbour of an acquaintance). I saw Jeremy Cameron in Bronte pool on Saturday morning with his girlfriend before he went on to kick 6 against the Pies that afternoon. I saw Toby Greene and Josh Kelly down at the beach recently etc etc.

    I think they won't bring back COLA - it would be too embarrassing given how controversial it was in the first place - however maybe there is some hope of some other kind of relief (maybe with the soft cap in addition to the living allowance) but I wouldn't be surprised if it is drafted in a way to advantage the Swans less than other clubs. The Victorian powers (especially Eddie) begrudge Sydney our success and can target us without getting one another's noses out of joint.
    McGuire will always play to the Melbourne Sydney rivalry. It is very tiresome and cynical and one day even people in Melbourne will see through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodspirit View Post
    I can vouch for the fact that Giants players don't all live in the west. I live in the east and see them around all the time. I know for a fact Callan Ward lives in the east (neighbour of an acquaintance). I saw Jeremy Cameron in Bronte pool on Saturday morning with his girlfriend before he went on to kick 6 against the Pies that afternoon. I saw Toby Greene and Josh Kelly down at the beach recently etc etc.

    I think they won't bring back COLA - it would be too embarrassing given how controversial it was in the first place - however maybe there is some hope of some other kind of relief (maybe with the soft cap in addition to the living allowance) but I wouldn't be surprised if it is drafted in a way to advantage the Swans less than other clubs. The Victorian powers (especially Eddie) begrudge Sydney our success and can target us without getting one another's noses out of joint.
    They can bring it back, as long as it is paid directly to the players by the AFL. No club involvement.
    The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloody Hell View Post
    They can bring it back, as long as it is paid directly to the players by the AFL. No club involvement.
    How would that make a difference?.
    There was a lot of BS about us using cola to pay for buddy. Simpliatic nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post
    How would that make a difference?.
    There was a lot of BS about us using cola to pay for buddy. Simpliatic nonsense.
    It would make practical difference. It's all about perception. If it was reuntroduced we should insist on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.S. Bleeder View Post
    It would make practical difference. It's all about perception. If it was reuntroduced we should insist on it.
    There could still be the argument , as there was previously , that we would just pay 10% less on contracts ( assuming the figure of cola here for arguments sake) knowing it would be topped up by the Cola and that we would bank 10% over all these contracts to build a war chest. So I agree with Barry that I don’t think it would matter if the AFL pays it , there will still be arguments around the potential for it to be manipulated to our advantage.


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    My understanding is that essentially the old COLA allowance was 9% on top of the Swans salary cap, and
    all players received that 9% on top of their regular salary.
    So if you were Luke Parker on $600K a year then your payslip said ;
    Salary $600,000
    COLA allowance $54,000
    Total $654,000
    and if you were Dan Robinson on $100K a year then your payslip said;
    Salary $100,000
    COLA allowance $9,000
    Total $109,000
    How on earth this could be manipulated so that Buddy (or Tippo or whoever) received the other players COLA
    allowance is beyond me. It's kinda possible the other 40 guys on the Swans list mightn't have been
    too happy about it.
    I find it weird that people would even consider that the club would do something so dodgy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTigers View Post
    My understanding is that essentially the old COLA allowance was 9% on top of the Swans salary cap, and
    all players received that 9% on top of their regular salary.
    So if you were Luke Parker on $600K a year then your payslip said ;
    Salary $600,000
    COLA allowance $54,000
    Total $654,000
    and if you were Dan Robinson on $100K a year then your payslip said;
    Salary $100,000
    COLA allowance $9,000
    Total $109,000
    How on earth this could be manipulated so that Buddy (or Tippo or whoever) received the other players COLA
    allowance is beyond me. It's kinda possible the other 40 guys on the Swans list mightn't have been
    too happy about it.
    I find it weird that people would even consider that the club would do something so dodgy.
    I’m not at all suggesting we did it , but that idea was bandied around at the time by people like Eddie .


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