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    Quote Originally Posted by stevoswan View Post
    But it elicited this bizarre headline in the Herald-Scum....."Port survives Swans ruck raid". WTF?
    Yep, plundered of their untried ruckman, the whole club would have collapsed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nico View Post
    Schache's problem is he is not up to to AFL standard. Why try to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear?
    Was also a number 2 draft pick. A cautionary tale of why top draft picks don't always give you the keys to the next Ferrari....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jono2707 View Post
    Was also a number 2 draft pick. A cautionary tale of why top draft picks don't always give you the keys to the next Ferrari....
    Recent tall forwards who were viewed as top prospects in their underage year and were selected in the first handful of picks in the draft include:
    - Patton
    - Boyd
    - Schache
    - Hogan (technically taken as a mini-draft player but that was kinda equivalent)

    Injuries haven't been kind to this group of players, but (arguably apart from Patton) that doesn't fully explain why none has reached the predicted stratosphere. Just goes to show how hard it is to find a top line tall forward, regardless of how high a draft pick you have.

    You could probably throw Daniher into that group too, given he'd likely have been taken in the first couple of picks had he not been a father son option. He has at least shown he can play to a high standard - when his body allows him to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevoswan View Post
    But it elicited this bizarre headline in the Herald-Scum....."Port survives Swans ruck raid". WTF?
    @@@@ing Murdoch press , sign the petition and unsubscribe. Melbourne is banning the herald sun, As Liverpool did with the Sun , get on board !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludwig View Post
    I would also ask if North are interested in Ronke + pick 3 for their pick 2.
    If Ronke is to be traded, it would be for a draft pick, not as a broader deal that doesn't get us more points. (Edit: more points after our first pick.)

    Such a trade could be anywhere from a late second-round pick to a mid third-round pick, which would get us close enough to gain the rest of the points we need by some swapping of picks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder Shaker View Post
    If Ronke is to be traded, it would be for a draft pick, not as a broader deal that doesn't get us more points. (Edit: more points after our first pick.)

    Such a trade could be anywhere from a late second-round pick to a mid third-round pick, which would get us close enough to gain the rest of the points we need by some swapping of picks.
    If North were stupid enough to swap their pick 2 for our pick 3 and Ronke, we’d be mad not to take it.

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    The state of play as I see it:

    We nominally hold pick 3, 22, 52, 56, 76, 94 (though the last pick doesn't count as we have only delisted five players).
    We intend to draft Campbell and Gulden.
    We need to acquire another ruckman and a tall forward.
    We would like to take pick 3 to the draft.
    Campbell may be drafted around pick 10, Gulden around pick 20.

    To do all of that, we are about 600 draft points short, before we add a ruckman to the list.

    Some have speculated on trading down pick 3 to get more points. I have been one that has engaged in this speculation, but only to explore the possibility; I don't believe we should do this if we have a choice. We should look at other options.
    Possible ways of acquiring more points:
    * Trade a player such as Ronke for a third-round pick.
    * Trade down pick 22 in a trade that gives us more points.
    * Have side deals in place with Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs and North Melbourne that can become live pick trades on draft night. Port Adelaide and Western Bulldogs may have surplus picks to offload if their prospects are drafted later than they expect. North Melbourne may be interested in acquiring unneeded late picks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder Shaker View Post
    The state of play as I see it:

    We nominally hold pick 3, 22, 52, 56, 76, 94 (though the last pick doesn't count as we have only delisted five players).
    We intend to draft Campbell and Gulden.
    We need to acquire another ruckman and a tall forward.
    We would like to take pick 3 to the draft.
    Campbell may be drafted around pick 10, Gulden around pick 20.

    To do all of that, we are about 600 draft points short, before we add a ruckman to the list.

    Some have speculated on trading down pick 3 to get more points. I have been one that has engaged in this speculation, but only to explore the possibility; I don't believe we should do this if we have a choice. We should look at other options.
    Possible ways of acquiring more points:
    * Trade a player such as Ronke for a third-round pick.
    * Trade down pick 22 in a trade that gives us more points.
    * Have side deals in place with Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs and North Melbourne that can become live pick trades on draft night. Port Adelaide and Western Bulldogs may have surplus picks to offload if their prospects are drafted later than they expect. North Melbourne may be interested in acquiring unneeded late picks.
    We have only delisted ONE player off our main list (Stoddard). The draft is for players for our senior list. Delisting rookies does not free up senior list spots. BTW Pick 94 carries no points to use anyway as does pick 72

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    If we can't find a suitable ruck addition for 2021 should we persist with AA and sinkers?

    If so would a potential DFA like Oscar McDonald be peanuts but a solid solution for our backline rotation ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 707 View Post
    Just shows how desperate the press is for a story, make anything up to get a headline and clicks. Very sad
    But this is how the media works; sensational headlines grab a readers attention, and that exposes the reader to the adverts and the more clicks on the article, the more the advertiser pays for the add. So go write some utter crap boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie.Gerald View Post
    If we can't find a suitable ruck addition for 2021 should we persist with AA and sinkers?

    If so would a potential DFA like Oscar McDonald be peanuts but a solid solution for our backline rotation ?
    AA doesn’t want to become a ruckman, wants to play as a defender.

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    AFL website in their latest "Sliding doors" article has us kinda linked with Mason Cox.

    What the? Could work if cheap enough.

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