Thanks for the update AB Swannie. Does anyone know the status of Kennedy, Bell, Clarke and Wicks' contracts?Originally Posted by AB Swannie
Thanks for the update AB Swannie. Does anyone know the status of Kennedy, Bell, Clarke and Wicks' contracts?
Mitch Cleary reports on Twitter that we have re-signed Ronke and McLean. https://twitter.com/cleary_mitch/sta...720370176?s=19
Just reward for McLean, who's an honest performer. Ronke retained on promise, rather than performance - needs a massive pre-season.
Ludwig Medalist, 5 career Brownlow votes, Hawthorn specialist (7 goals on just 9 kicks + 10 tackles). What's not to like?
He's overdue for another big game. The next time we play Hawthorn in a Grand Final, he's in my team.
Ronke has battled a few injuries last few years . I think the club is backing him in to get back to his best
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Possibly we are retaining both Fox and Ronke but it was safer to let Fox back into the draft as Ronke would have swoopers
that makes sense. I also agree that injuries haven't allowed us to see the best of Ronke. He looked good defensively (which would have been the knock on him) in the couple of games he played before being injured
i wonder if rookie listing also provides us much more room to move re negotiation and also allocation of games
ie $85k pa plus $5k per AFL game match payments is standard for a rookie contract.........so slightly lower re base but it provides flexibility if injuries strike etc to elevate as the season goes on to the main list where needed ?
"be tough, only when it gets tough"
Trust in the club to know what they are doing, we really have little idea when it comes to the big picture of TPP & list structure. I notice most clubs are doing unusual things with their Rookie Lists and delistings. The Rookie List now just become a bastardised extension of the main list. Typical rules and ideas on the run by the VFL!
Clubs have an eye on the mid season drafts next year where a whole heap of over looked U18 Vic players will be available to draft, nice time to have pick 3 again and again, Crows are laughing with pick 1 in those drafts.
Fresh from the AFL website
"Current contracted for 2021: 38
The Swans have committed to new deals for Ben Ronke and Hayden McLean that they're yet to announce, which leaves them at 37 contracted players for next season. Small forward Sam Gray has been delisted but will be re-rookied, taking the Swans to 38 players for 2021. James Bell and Sam Wicks will continue as Category B rookies."
The numbers mean we have 6 spots across both lists, 3 spots after the ND.
Last edited by 707; 26th November 2020 at 09:55 AM.
As regards the 2021 mid-season draft: are you confident it will be based on this year's ladder position rather than the ladder position of clubs part way through next year?
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We will have 5 rookies or commitments going into the draft: Gray, Bell, Wicks, O'Connor and McLean. I'm assuming Amartey is now on the senior list. It would be easy to move Naismith to the rookie list. In any case, he could be moved to the inactive list allowing us an additional Pre Season supplemental selection.
With 5 committed rookies, it only leaves one spot left. I think we will use that for Paddy McCartin, and if not him, then we are very likely to leave it open for in-season drafts or supplemental drafts. That would obviate the possibility of Fox being relisted as a rookie. It's possible using other assumptions, but looks highly unlikely. Maybe barracuda is right and we have some trick up our sleeve that hasn't been covered.
I can see the possibility of us cutting ET and signing Paddy McCartin to the main list on a 1 year contract. After taking 3 players in the national draft our main list size will be at the minimum of 36 and our rookie list at 5. So we would go into the post draft period with a total list size of 41. It leaves room for adding players to both rookie and main lists. This configuration seems the most efficient for minimizing the TPP and leaving open future drafting. It's the sort of thing the Swans would do.
Last edited by Ludwig; 26th November 2020 at 10:22 AM.
Yes, it was done that way last year and you can't have draft order based on a handful of 2021 games as we know the draw can grossly distort a clubs eventual ladder position, three seasons ago NorfLOL 10-0, finished 12-10.
Picked up this tidbit "Hollands confirming this morning that he's had 2 rounds of interviews with 5 clubs. Adelaide, North, Carlton, Hawks and GWS" I asked the question, why would Carlton be interviewing him when they don't pick until the 30's? GWS doing it because they are trying to move up the board into top 5?
Can anyone confirm that Swans don't generally do second interviews? I seem to remember a number of draftees being surprised at being picked up by the Swans because we only spoke to them once.
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