I don’t know enough about the game to know if wingmen need specialist “tutoring” or how long it would take a new one like Smith to learn our game plan, running patterns etc.
I don’t know enough about the game to know if wingmen need specialist “tutoring” or how long it would take a new one like Smith to learn our game plan, running patterns etc.
It's hard to argue with Geelong's list management. They have stayed in contention year after year over a long period of time. They've been quite good at finding quality players lower down the draft as well as mature aged players (Stewart, Menagola). They also produce a lot of mediocre players and have to keep refreshing the list as the older players retire. The team they fielded yesterday averaged more than 3 years older than ours. That's a huge difference.
We've been on the opposite end of the spectrum as far as list building goes. It would be impossible for us to go a Geelong list management strategy now.
We probably could have stayed in the top 8 these past 2 years if we had a Geelong or Hawthorne list management strategy. But I think our strategy will pay off and is more sustainable.
I really enjoyed seeing our kids walk of the field in victory Thursday and singing the team song. It was like they won the premiership. There's a lot of enthusiasm in our players. It's good young group that's going places.
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A wingman just has to wing it. Experience not required.Originally Posted by Markwebbos
No risky 10-year deals that eat up a significant portion of our salary cap. Buddy's nice to have, but he's given us nothing this year due to injury. We're in a weak position to offer decent deals for good players until Franklin retires due to the cap pressure.
Don't trade out players for less than they are worth. If Geelong could get two first-round draft picks for Kelly, we should have been able to get more for Jones than a second-round draft pick in the thirties. There are other examples.
Don't chase players at other clubs with a history of injuries. Games that Joe Daniher has played since the start of 2018: 11 (and none this year, last played 15 months ago).
Geelong have done well because they keep their list balanced and have avoided these recruitment problems.
Geelong have been consistently competitive for many years. The last time Geelong finished in the bottom 25% of the ladder was 1975 (11th of 12). Since 1975, Geelong's finishes in the bottom half of the ladder: 1977 (8/12), 1982 (9/12), 1983 (9/12), 1986 (9/12), 1988 (9/14), 1990 (10/14), 1998 (12/16), 1999 (11/16), 2001 (12/16), 2002 (9/16), 2003 (12/16), 2006 (10/16) and 2015 (10/18). Geelong's overall season records here.
"Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final
How many specialists do we need? Smith is no Hodge. No thanks, would be a waste of a draft pick.
hhhhmmm
im sure if Reid and Buddy were on the park more then not we wouldnt be arguing strategy
those two featuring like Cameron, Hawkins, Reiwoldt etc would mean top8
but we went top heavy
we went for @@@@ senior cheapies last few years
we went for youth
we are 15 and 16th on the table last two years
as i posed last year we are an outside chance top8 in 2021........anyone want to place a $10,000 bet otherwise .........im all in !!!!
Nope it aint going to happen via laws of probability
3 years in the wilderness might be acceptable at some clubs
not others
I have no confidence to say we will be any better then a marginal top8 team in 2022
2023 could be worse......Giold Coast, Brisvegas killing it along with traditional teams in the top8 accept us
if that is acceptable good luck
not for me
"be tough, only when it gets tough"
I’ve no idea what your point is AG?
current strategy not acceptable ?
other clubs smarter ?
I mean the hate on here for the Bombers is huge yet where are we ?
No one on here ever saids they rate the bombers or geelong which defies belief as we are 16th on the table ?
Taylor
Gray
Menzel
Clarke
Thurlow
McLean
Knoll
etc
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"be tough, only when it gets tough"
We cast the net hoping for some diamonds in the rough and didn’t seem to work. It cost us donuts. We kept all our top draft picks in the process, and have a young list with a lot of promising talent. Would you prefer we went the st Kilda route and deleted ourselves from the first two rounds of two drafts to chase immediate success ( which they many not get by the way ) ?
I think almost everyone on here agrees, especially after Thursday, this team is on the right path. Some patience is required but I think the payoff will certainly be worth it. I would take your bet on top 8 next year, not for 10k but for $500.
Another year of development, Heeney Joey and ( hopefully ) Buddy into that mix. I could see us pinching 11-12 wins.
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Got to 2 GFS with Buddys deal, more than Geelong have done of late, they are the best regular season team but normally fall short come finals due to losing their home ground advantage
Ive said for years, Geelongs record is always inflated due to only ever playing interstate teams in Geelong
This year may just suit them and Richmond with some old wise heads
Agree with all of this. C.Scott has a terrible finals record compared to Longmire. They have a battle hardened team and the shortened season helps their old team. Wouldn't be surprised if they choked yet again though.
anyone else keen to bet ?.
MB are u serious?
We will be outside top8 3 years in a row no doubt!
Who's in?
I have 5 swans mates ready to match u
With an injury list just as long and with it, a lot of our experience.....delivers a young squad rebuilding and missing a large chunk of on field guidance......so maybe some perspective needed.
All clubs make recruiting mistakes and we're certainly not perfect.....but I think we're coming along nicely. I also see tangible signs of the Bloods Culture building in this young group. Exciting!
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