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Thread: Greatest ever Swan?

  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by Mark26 View Post
    This is an intriguing thread and thanks to all for the history lesson this far. I just stumbled on this article from 2017 about South Melbourne's foundations on our website of all places! I'll post the link for anyone interested.
    Our history: South Melbourne foundations
    And so we have a new contender for greatest Swan, Peter Burns. Again, from the halcyon times when we ruled the VFA. 4 time premiership player, 3 time 'Champion of the Colony and first player to play 300 VFA/VFL games (over 21 seasons from his debut aged 16 in 1881), until his record was broken by Gordon Coventry in Coventry's final game: Peter Burns (footballer, born 1866) - Wikipedia. He was one of the AFL's inaugural Hall of Famers and has Legend status within the Swans. While Burns played a substantial part of his career with other clubs (mostly Geelong) it seems all his premierships and at least two, probably three, of his 'Champion of the Colony' gongs were won while he played for us.

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    FWIW, in his recent interview with Callum Mills commemorating 25 years since his debut with the Swans, Mickey O opined that the best Swans he played with were Lockett, Goodes and Kelly, in that order, with Lockett a whisker in front of Goodes. I think he was rating them probably more as players than as Swans per se and, great a player as Goodes was, I think most of us would agree that Goodes comes behind Lockett as an all-time great player. Lockett is in the conversation for greatest player of all time. However, I wonder if when considering who is the greatest "Swan" more weight can be given to off-field achievements rather than strictly playing achievements in which case Goodes gave us and the wider public so much more. But that's a whole other conversation.
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  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by bloodspirit View Post
    FWIW, in his recent interview with Callum Mills commemorating 25 years since his debut with the Swans, Mickey O opined that the best Swans he played with were Lockett, Goodes and Kelly, in that order, with Lockett a whisker in front of Goodes. I think he was rating them probably more as players than as Swans per se and, great a player as Goodes was, I think most of us would agree that Goodes comes behind Lockett as an all-time great player. Lockett is in the conversation for greatest player of all time. However, I wonder if when considering who is the greatest "Swan" more weight can be given to off-field achievements rather than strictly playing achievements in which case Goodes gave us and the wider public so much more. But that's a whole other conversation.
    I think a lot of people forget how mobile Lockett was for how big he was. Playing in a SOO game against SA he was put in the ruck and played a very good game.

    In his early years at St Kilda he would have played most likely in similar roles to what Goodes played in if playing in the same era.

  4. #124
    In Jim Main's book " blood stained angels" he talks of Laurie Nash being a freak. He once raced a greyhound and a racehorse over a 100 meter track, for publicity. The greyhound won but he beat the racehorse. So i pick Laurie.

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