Ultimately the decision on his future may be out of the Swans hands.
Ultimately the decision on his future may be out of the Swans hands.
Ditto.Originally Posted by MattW
He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)
I understand and appreciate your thoughts on this. I agree that Elijah has primary responsibility for his life and his actions.
I am just noting that I and several others believed that it was in Elijah's best interests to stay with the club and complete his responsibilities as a contracted player rather than being left outside the club environment to work things out for himself.
It's not just in retrospect that it seems staying with the club would have been a better way to go. It was the common sense best solution. Yes, Elijah is 19 years old, he's not a kid, and shouldn't have to be supervised. I can imagine all the arguments given to leave him in Perth. Maybe the club didn't have any real leverage at the time.
After the way ET and his girlfriend planned and succeeded to confound the hotel security to spend the night together in the hotel, it should have been pretty obvious that a daily check-in call was not going to do the trick of keeping ET on the straight and narrow.
In the end, it turned out to be a poor choice by the club to handle it they way they did, if they had other options. Call it hindsight, but I think this could have been avoided.
I don't get the pushing of this. We are talking about his future at the Swans, not whether he goes to jail or not.
Also, proven guilty under what terms? Beyond reasonable doubt? Balance of probabilities? What happens if he gets off the criminal case but is then guilty if civil action is taken? Total minefield.
Also, being not guilty doesn't mean you didn't do it. OJ Simpson says hi.
The fact of the matter is, irrelevant of what happens in a civil or criminal court, his character is not one that should be associated with our club. The club isn't a rehab facility or charity (which is to not say they cannot provide support) and players are delisted every year for minor things like they didn't train hard enough, failed to eat the right thing or are a bit too old. If they can be delisted for that, then they should also be delisted for poor character.
Glad you're not a judge in the justice system. Just asking for the case to be judged on its merits according to the principles of natural justice when all details are examined.
I'm all for leaving it alone and let it play out in the justice system. I have full faith in the Swans doing the correct thing around these circumstances.
I think it comes down to his attitude. Does he want help? Lot's of teenagers feel they know everything - mine certainly did. If he wants help the Swans should work with him, if not, they should let him go. You can't help someone who's not sincere in seeking help.
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Excellent response by the club and good to see they don't stand for violence against women.
Much better response then some posters on here who have conveniently ignored the photos of a beaten woman and hide behind legal processes.
Noticed Harley mentioned respect to all parties and the impending court proceedings. Agree it was an excellent response.
Great post Syd. I agree with second chances and a club like the Swans could make it work.....this of course dependant on his level of offending and whether he is actually guilty or not. One things is for sure, if he does get a second chance it WON'T be in the number 37. That honour has passed him by.....on the Covid breach alone, let alone his latest controversy.
It's all very sad and messy.
That's fine to respect all parties. The important part is they stood up for violence against women and stood him down.
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