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    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie.Gerald View Post
    Buddy 50 plus goals this year and becoming a medi sub in 2023

    McClean not being in the 22 for this Saturday

    Luddy.......what's happening?
    That's this year. 2023 is another year and we'll all be a bit older and slower.

    It's probably the last year for Buddy and Reid is likely to go as well. Next year is the time to transition to a new forward line. Let's use these vets to help get us there. That's the gist of what I'm saying. Put the younger forwards out front and let the vets play the backup roles.

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    There's been a lot of talk about the team becoming less Buddy centric for several years, suggestions he play up the ground etc. etc.
    But it just doesn't happen, even in the PF there were far too many kick-it-to-Buddy-and-hope moments. Whether that's Buddy or the team's issue, I don't know but it's gone on for so long that I'm beginning to doubt there will be any change while Buddy is still playing.
    So maybe some enforced breaks during the season are the answer - but will Buddy be happy with such an arrangement? Is the match committee capable of doing it?

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    The one I hate to see is the kick to Buddy from halfback. It nearly always results in a turnover.

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    We bid on Jack Bowes with pick 11 before taking Olly Florent in 2016. Looks like he's on the market: Report: Top-10 pick tells Suns he wants to explore trade options (sen.com.au). He hasn't had as good a career as Florent to date but could we be interested? On the other hand Bowes wants to leave the Suns due to lack of opportunity and it's doubtful that we would offer more. Don't think it would cost much to get him. Sounds like provided we take his salary we could potentially even net a draft pick!
    Last edited by bloodspirit; 21st September 2022 at 04:52 PM.
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    I've heard he is on a big contract $600k-$700k, that's why the Suns are keen to let him walk. Not sure we could fit that in for someone who's not going to be guaranteed best 22.

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    Wow! That's a surprisingly large contract for not that big a name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodspirit View Post
    Wow! That's a surprisingly large contract for not that big a name.
    It's just the price the Northern clubs now have to pay to keep young prospects.....to avoid the go-home factor, they pay overs. It's a consequence of the Victorian lead removal of COLA and haven't the big Vic clubs had a field day poaching them ever since from the now financially weakened Northern clubs. Maguire calls it a 'level playing field'!

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    If Lloyd Meek does go to Hawthorn, they will have 3 decent young ruckmen at the club. One will certainly be looking for another club by the time Hickey retires. There's always a ruckman waiting in the wings if one is required.

    I've been thrilled with how well things have worked out with Hickey. He's been far better than anyone's expectations, and is in fact, one of the beat ruckmen going around. I also think Ladhams will overcome his recklessness and settle down to become a good ruckman. He's shown enough to demonstrate he can handle the #1 role if he can control his emotions.

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    I wonder how much of the Hickey Miracle is due to Dean Cox? Is he able to turn a journeyman into a match winner?

    I think Ladhams gave Cox as one of his reasons for wanting to come to the Swans,

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    Cox was wonderful, and I don't doubt he has been working with McLean over these past months

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    For those that thought we should have been into former pick 13 from the 2017 draft Jarrod Brander 12 months ago, he's been delisted by GWS today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Cox was wonderful, and I don't doubt he has been working with McLean over these past months
    There's no positive correlation between someones playing ability and their coaching ability. Often times the best coaches are players that really had to work hard for any success they achieved, and specifically to think more about their game than more gifted contemporaries.
    In the case of ruckmen, is Cox best suited to advise an undersized ruckman like McLean - a bit like me offering advice on playing the piano accordion.
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