While he is a good player, us being linked as interested in Tom Doedee is a little concerning to me. We have been burned by players in the past who have had ACL issues and with Tom still to comeback from his latest ACL injury (that's both knees now), it smacks of desperation that we aren't confident we'll land McKay...
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If we had put a contract in front of Stephen’s and he saids no and we loose a 40 game 23yr old mid in 2024……..does that mean it is very likely we need to replace Dylan with an experienced mid?
I’m guessing from what I have seen of Dylan he really is only an outside wing.
Obviously not a super high contract in $
Maybe $350k max $400k pa?
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Regarding Clarke there must be a player that we can attract to Sydney on a similar $ but has more time with the ball and more flexibility in roles?
Clarke can tag.
Predominately tagging a dangerous HFF or FP.
That is a strong skill set but very limited.
It seems to me that is now an opportunity cost vs a player on similar $ (maybe $300k pa?) that could truly help win contested footy ie we went hunting for a good value contested player in Kennedy. He turned out one in a million. But I’m sure across the whole of the AFL there must be a handful of candidates that help our deficiencies around winning the contest?
Would Ollie Wines be the answer? Hard inside bull and proven performer. Struggling a bit at Port because of their young and high quality midfield. Port have a lousy draft Hans yet seem to want to trade with the world
That’s a great suggestion. My only concern would be this age, 30 next year.Originally Posted by 111431
Sorry Liz- don’t know anything about Jordon, but you can’t have much of a downgrade on Clarke!. I don’t like to knock any Swan but I wouldn’t have him anywhere near our team if we’re serious. Sorry Ryan, please don’t take offence but football is a tough business not just a sport so please move on for your own benefit. Same goes for Sam Wicks- these two can’t help us win a flag. That brings me to Wilbur: he obviously was Horse’s pet when he started with us but hey, time has now flown by so Wilbur, get serious and play consistent good footy and kick accurately or else. The ability is there as he has shown a few times this year but then goes missing too often. Is it a matter of fitness? If so, train your backside off- no excuses!
Don't think there's any real need to replace Stephens, as we have outside midfield depth. Seeing Campbell spend more time on the wing appeals to me. While for other up and comers; we have Corey Warner, who I thought progressed nicely this season; Mitchell, who has a big tank and goes hard at the ball; and Hall-Kahan, who while he spent plenty of time as a forward this season, has used the ball well when playing on the wing.
Auntie,
I agree with you. Clarke is not the long term future and in my opinion the classic list clogger. There are players out there who would be worth considering.
The club are going to have to clear some space on the list to make room for new arrivals, and by my estimation they will need to free up 8 spots. Bear in mind 2 spots have already been filled by Buller and Arnold offset by the departure of Franklin Hicky and Paddy McCartin and almost certainly Stephens. We will have to find 4 more, so the most likely are Clarke, Gould, Owen, and either Hall-Khan or Rankin.
This would enable the club to bring in 3 free agents/trades and 3 draft picks including Geary
No-simply no. Let’s look critically at our midfielders: what’s obvious to me is that the major ingredient missing is speed. We have only two with genuine speed: Errol and Paps. Now you can be very effective even without elite speed like Mills and to a lesser degree Rowy, and of course years back we had Diesel who was far from quick as far as leg speed was concerned but lightning fast in his thinking and decision making. Of course, he was a unique talent. My point is that we need players that ideally have leg speed and are quick thinkers. A strong bodied midfielder is great but we have Millsey and Parks already. We need to unearth someone like Oliver- great at getting the ball and then great at doing something constructive with it. I don’t see the point of trading in anyone near the end of their career- if we can’t get an elite midfielder from another club then we just have to persevere with the draft and hope we get lucky. With Sheldrick, Roberts and Konstanty we have hopes for the future but what we now need is more pace.
Interestingly Caroline Wilson has been slamming Grundy for choosing Sydney. She thinks he is picking the town over our club. What a bitter and twisted person she is.
Also Collingwood are making noises about not paying a part of his salary if he comes to Sydney. Surely they cannot do that?
We just need to changed the COLA to mean something else.
Collingwood something living allowance
The irony is awesome
I would be astonished if Melbourne and the AFL didn’t already scenario plan the contract when Grundy shifted to Melbourne.
Their contract managers should sent to Siberia if they didn’t ensure that the Collingwood payment was binding till the end of the contract Grundy signed
To me it sounds like the media are just having so much fun stirring the pot Re pies, dees and Sydney etc
We actually need to create list spots rather than simply replacing players slated to depart the club. It's not that evident until you look at the details.
By adding Buller and Arnold in the MSD, we went 2 over on list size. I find an easy starting point is to think of the departures of Franklin, McCartin and Hickey create room for Buller, Arnold and Grundy. Now we are back to max list size, so we have to trade out or delist players for every one added, by whatever pathway one chooses.
It's not easy to find players to cut from recent drafts. All 3 ND players from 2022 had injury affected seasons and are in contract anyway. Magor, a rookie who could be delisted, was probably our best permoing player from that draft and deserves another season.
From 2021, there's only Rankin as a possible delisting; he's played well defensively and could become a good small defender if he can improve his disposal efficiency.
Everyone from the 2020 draft is a star. So it's way back to 2019 to search for players to offload. Stephens would find it tough getting chances after 4 ineffective seasons. There are players ahead of him who are not in the first team and several VFL players likely to overtake him. So that's one list spot found.
Gould is the other 2019 draftee who might be delisted. It may come down to keeping 2 of Gould, Reid and Ben McKay. Gould closed the VFL year with some strong performances as a forward and I can see a future for him in that role. As I have mentioned before, if we can't find a ready to go key defender, I think McLean could be a good conversion to defence. This would be made easier if we went into next season with McDonald, Amartey, Buller and Gould as good group of young key forwards. So we can spare McLean for added defence, despite his good performances up forward the past season. It's good to have more flexibility in KPPs anyway.
Owen is almost certain to be delisted, creating a 2nd spot for a draftee.
So that leaves Clarke as the next in line to drop if we need to create another list spot.
After that, the choices become less obvious. So we may have only have 3 open spots, excluding Grundy, for trades and draftee. That's not much. So I wouldn't be looking to bring any players in besides McKay.
We could find a few more delistings, but none will be easy calls. I don't see the point of adding too many new players when we still have a fair few prospects who need at least another season of development, in many cases due to injury related limited playing time.
We should have more spots open after next season.
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