Many draft commentators have Green rated right up there with Anderson and Rowell. Certainly with Anderson. To say he is "not a pick 3" doesn't reflect what many draft commentators say.
If we had pick 3 through natural causes and Green were on the open market, he would be the obvious selection for us. A very highly rated, pure inside midfielder. He fills an obvious need, and the Swans have visited his home and came away impressed by him and his family.
I do agree that, given our actual draft position, trading purely for the purposes of thwarting GWS is daft. GWS would almost certainly match a bid at 3 - and maybe we will find out for sure if Melbourne does bid on Green. So we wouldn't land up with him regardless and it would cost a lot. The only value in doing so would be if the Swans are hot on the player that they believe GWS are interested in apart from Green. And especially if they thought Adelaide weren't interested in that player. That is the downside to the Swans of this draft move, but there are lots of ifs, buts and maybes to which we don't know the answers.
We didn't miss a move at all. The trade was always going to be significantly more valuable to GWS with Adelaide than with us. They are still not guaranteed it would work, given the Dees still loom at pick 3. But if they'd swapped with Sydney instead of Adelaide, the chance of Adelaide bidding on Green would remain.
It takes two parties to be willing to trade with each other, and our position wasn't as strong as Adelaide's.
Champion Data rate him at 2 above Anderson.
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...f80473c461e25a
"CHAMPION DATA SAYS: Green is the best contested ball winning junior ever recorded by Champion Data."
I find it interesting just how all in, GWS are going in this draft. Firstly, they lose a lot of points with the pick swap. If they manage to win the premiership next year, then their pick 18 is worth 985 points. Alternatively, if things don't quite go to plan and they finish bottom of the eight, then their pick 11 is worth 1329 points. Both a big loss on the 283 points that they gain, from swapping this year's 6 to 4.
Also, if Green attracts an early bid, then they don't have the points to cover it, without going into debt. For instance, if we bid at 5, then with the 20% discount, they need to find 1502 points. Their picks 40, 59 & 60, tally up to 733 points. Which I assume means that they would owe 769 points next year. That could easily eat up their second and third round picks. Given that they've already traded that year's first and fourth round picks, that leaves them with the third round pick that they picked up from North.
Of course, if they win a premiership in the next couple of seasons, then they'll probably be hailed as geniuses. On the other hand, a few unforeseen injuries and retirements, and no premierships, then this year's tactics may come back to haunt them.
We had to do the same with Mills as GWS are with Green
There are so many layers to the importance of Green going to GwS
Not really. The Giants always had priority access to Green and ample draft currency to acquire him. The trading they have been doing has nothing to do with securing Green and everything to do with acquiring another top 5 player in addition to Green. The Swans traded down their first round pick in 2015 relatively early in trade week, gaining a few more points in the process. They never flirted with what the Giants are trying to do.
The Giants' tactics are only made possible by the extra teens pick they already had as a result of trading out Shiel last year. Without that, they wouldn't have had the currency to try and do what they have done. Whether the cost is worth the benefit is another matter. They must really like someone else in the top 5 this year. If we were talking about this a year ago, where the entire top 10 looked very strong, and a top five pick could have picked up a Rozee or Rankine or a King, it would have made a lot of sense. I'm not convinced that this year's top ten is anything like as exciting, outside of Rowell maybe. And Green.
GWS are swimming in high quality mids and will probably add another in Green. What they want in addition to Green is either ruckman Jackson or HBF Young.
By grabbing Crows pick 4, regardless of what Melbourne do (unless they bid on Green, fingers crossed) GWS will get one of those two plus Green. This trade with Adelaide actually strengthens our position as Crows now don't pick before us. Loving the pick trades this year, exciting stuff. Can only pray GWS come a cropper having paid dearly for their positioning.
I don't think it strengthens our position. It means we'll get the sixth choice of player. If GWS hadn't traded up we might have got the fifth or sixth choice of player, depending on whether Adelaide or Melbourne bid for Green. What this means in reality (because all that matters in the end is the player, not the pick they were chosen at) depends on whether the Giants are more or less likely than the Crows were to choice the player(s) that Sydney is most interested in.
Two main possibilities now:
1. Melbourne bid on Green completely stuffing GWS up. They have to use pick 4 to match losing the ability to pick up another top pick.
2. Green gets to the Swans pick and we bid. GWS then match chewing up all their remaining picks plus going into severe deficit for 2020.
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