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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Shaw View Post
    What the hell are all you peeps thinking. Shaw was amazing again tonight. Leading the possessions as per usual. Yes he made mistakes in 4th quarter only. But is expected to happen when your carrying the whole entire team because nobody else on the team is doing any work.
    I just didn't see his game this way. He had 14 possessions for the game (according to afl.com.au), 7 of which were clangers, gave away a free kick and laid only one tackle.

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    Yup dealing with numbers was never a strong point of our squad. Some math conditioning wouldn't go astray
    don't get me started on algebra..

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    I like Shaw's attitude and speed, two qualities that I wish would rub off onto some others, but while he is a great runner of the ball, he is a horrible deliverer. Mind you, for large parts of the game, he had hardly anyone to deliver to.
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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    If you watched the Saints GWS game you would know that we have been huge losers in getting rid of a powerhouse prime mover ruckman for an overrated flawed half forward flanker. If it was our choice to let Mummy go someone should be shot.
    We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aguy View Post
    Well said. There were lots of positives. Still math conditioning to go and structures to be refined and gel and lots of little things to click but there were good signs.

    Don't panic supporters. Tweaks needed just wait till it clicks
    I wish I could see the positives, but I thought that was one of the worst performances we have put in for a long time, and I don't see why we should be still looking for match conditioning coming rd. 3. Most other teams got it sorted to be ready by rd 1, but we still look about a month away from even playing competitive football.

    As for structures to be refined - how about any structure at all, especially going forward. The amount of times we kicked to a 3 on 1 in the forward line, or the guy with the ball looked up and saw absolutely nothing to go to was ridiculous. How about actually planting a big guy in the square so that at very least we have someone to kick to up forward? How about playing a crumber at the feet of the big guys up forward?

    We look a long way off the pace, and I am dreading the trip to Adelaide next week, despite their equally average start to the season.
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    As was pointed out by many on RWO & in the media when he was first signed, Detrickx was likely recruited as a BACK UP ruckman for Pyke. Laidler was a BACK UP defender in case a regular defender ... say AJ? ... was injured. Baying for their blood with each loss when they actually played the roles they were recruited for reeks of hostile frustration & seems a fairly pointless waste of energy. Neither were recruited as bonafide stars ... otherwise we wouldn't have got them at bargain basement prices that we did. No point lamenting the loss of Mummy. Players had to go to get Buddy. Not much point whining about him either, coz we've got him (or his legacy at very least) for 9 more years.

    Seriously, get over it & get on with supporting our club. As a club we've had tough times ... really tough times ... in the past (early 90s, early & late 80s, most years from the mid 30s to the late 70s). On of the special things about our club was the loyalty of the supporters.
    Sure, don't be happy with the loss. But however much RWOers think they're hurting as fans, the players should (and I believe are) hurting more. They have pride in themselves, their jumper, their club. They will be feeling the pain & embarrassment of these losses. They need our support, not the immediate post loss criticism that is all too often dished out.
    You know, I actually realise that... Derickx is a spud (spud = tries had with limited ability to limited effect). Mumford is a great player who I was upset to see go. There you go...does that mean I don't get it or I am not a 'true' supporter?

    As for get 'get over it' and 'support your club'? I personally prefer to say just what I think. It irritates and amuses in equal measure when people on this forum get narky because other posters are not mogadon'.

    Can I grab some of your Nitrezepam? Might need it before next week. Still a supporter though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gezball View Post
    I just didn't see his game this way. He had 14 possessions for the game (according to afl.com.au), 7 of which were clangers, gave away a free kick and laid only one tackle.

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    don't get me started on algebra..
    Agreed and missed three vital tackles and mad only one. Rhyce did a lot of running without thinking yesterday. Probably to the game plan of running the ball out of defence and bombing it long to the forward line. But there is not point bombing it long straight to an opposition player, or short for that matter. Rhyce managed to do both with the majority of his disposals. He wasn't alone, Mal managed to stuff up more than once kicking a shocker out on full, missing players with passes that turned over to be converted into goals or points. Then Hannas, who had had a pretty good hit out passes directly to an opposition player 20 metres out almost directly in front.

    Our players were terrible in the second half but the coaching was ordinary for the whole game. I don't give a damn how much we were up on Pies at one stage, leaving Maxwell without an opponent for the whole game was ruinous. Then just when we look to have a height advantage because Brown leaves the field and it looks like Sammy will have a field day he moves him to loose man in the backline. What the heck was he thinking? That in reality was the move that lost the match. With no Reid the only tall option except for the resting ruck was Buddy, double teamed.

    The other thing is at one stage we had Derrickx on the bench and Buddy the only player in the forward fifty against Frost and Young.

    Not shifting a tagger to Pendlebury when he got going.

    Not having a defender take a mid when he went forward. These moves in reality killed us off. They were reactive and not at all proactive.

    Ok many of our players fumbled the whole match. Reg needs lobotomy as he seems to have a pathological need to stuff up and give the dinky HB to a players feet. Hannas shocker. Mal & Shaw's crap delivery. They helped Collingwood kill us off but the problem was definitely in the coached box to begin with and transitioned onto the field.

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    Even though we are 0 and 2, I can see a bright future.

    Firstly buddy. He is clearly underdone, and gaining match fitness. But round 4 or 5 he will be better.

    Rok, hes running on the spot and has done for a fair bit of last year. Unless hes injured, the game is past him I think.

    Coach longmire has to have a better plan when the opposition have an extra man back, especially a 3rd man up specialist like Maxwell. This is where Mitch Morton was good.

    As for mummy, no team can affort to play two specialist ruckman. (salary cap, and speed).We had to choose one. When tippet comes back we will be more balanced.

    We always start a season slow. In the past we have played weaker team and snuck some wins into the first few rounds. This year we arent so lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimelb View Post
    I like Shaw's attitude and speed, two qualities that I wish would rub off onto some others, but while he is a great runner of the ball, he is a horrible deliverer. Mind you, for large parts of the game, he had hardly anyone to deliver to.
    Shaw had a dead set shocker last night - arguably it was his awful turnover (magnified by Ted's howler) that was the nail in the coffin. Barely hit a target all night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barry View Post

    As for mummy, no team can affort to play two specialist ruckman. (salary cap, and speed).We had to choose one. When tippet comes back we will be more balanced.
    Tell that to Geelong and West Coast who are playing 3 ruckmen in their side today.

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    Not Horse's best game that's for sure - thoroughly outcoached. In the end, what killed us was Pendlebury being off the leash for 15 mins when our mid-field coach must have stepped out of the box for a feed, and the failure to think thru their extra man in defence.

    Still a much better effort than last week - probably still 5 guys who aren't anything near their best form and a team can't afford to carry that many. But good to see Reid and Jetta show some good signs, and good to have Hanners back (though still think that was a long way from his best effort).

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    Tell that to Geelong and West Coast who are playing 3 ruckmen in their side today.
    And neither will win a premiership with 3ruckman.

    Nicnat might be the exception because he is a one in a million player.

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    Tend to agree with Barry on the 3 ruckmen situation. WCE play 3 very mobile ruckmen. Geelong have a lot of injuries at the moment and probably one will be dropped once he likes Motlop and Christianson get back, and Biclavs is also very athletic. But I think it is difficult to play 2 behemoths. We need both Pyke and Tippett playing to make the ruck division work, because both can take a strong mark and kick goals.

    Every team situation is different. I don't think there's an exact formula. You use the tools you've got. Our strength is supposed to be a deep tough midfield. They just haven't produced yet.

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