Swans v Hawks Game Thread

[anniswan]

Starts here!

[ROK Lobster]

Beat me by that much anni...

[anniswan]

Willo with 4 miles to run gets pinged HTB, the commentators are saying the grass is too short from the Soccer game the other night.

[ROK Lobster]

C'mon Nick

[Carolyn]

Sydney by 5 points!

[anniswan]

Malceski done a hammy

Tiny crowd

[ROK Lobster]

Malceski out, Bolton in.

[anniswan]

Thanks for that Goal, Guerra.

Davis has 2

[ROK Lobster]

Davis is a gun.

[anniswan]

Hawks are adopting Richmonds game plan from last week, and it aint working for them.

[ROK Lobster]

Did Buchy kick that one?

[Carolyn]

Let's hope this game is like the Tigers game...a thrashing.:p

[anniswan]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Did Buchy kick that one?

yep

[Big Al]

Kennelly- 8 disposals in 15 minutes

[ROK Lobster]

Nick kicks a... behind

[anniswan]

After the most boring 10 minutes of footy Magic kicks a goal.

[Provost]

Footy finaly about to start on channel 10 in Sydney:mad:

I'm fighting not to listen to the call on Triple MMM.

[Big Al]

2 quick goals

[swans_premiers]

Originally posted by Provost
Footy finaly about to start on channel 10 in Sydney:mad:

I'm fighting not to listen to the call on Triple MMM.

Hey atleast you get it...all we get on the tv here is the top of the table clash between Port and Bombers:mad:

[ROK Lobster]

We get to watch Port v Bombers here, why o why?

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by Big Al
Kennelly- 8 disposals in 15 minutes 8 disposals in 40 mins

[anniswan]

Crouch injured, arm

Hall, winded I think

[swans_premiers]

Did Hall just get injured?

[ROK Lobster]

Sounds like a 2 man bench (no Crouch, no Mal)

[ROK Lobster]

Has Mathews been sighted yet? No stats.

[anniswan]

Originally posted by swans_premiers
Did Hall just get injured?

Seems OK, copped a knee to stomach

[anniswan]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Has Mathews been sighted yet? No stats.

Haven't seen him at all

[Big Al]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Sounds like a 2 man bench (no Crouch, no Mal)

Could be a problem with run later on. Luck with injuries was going to desert us eventually:frown

[Big Al]

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Originally posted by Big Al
Kennelly- 8 disposals in 15 minutes
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8 disposals in 40 mins


:D See what happens when you rap a block

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by Big Al
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Originally posted by Big Al
Kennelly- 8 disposals in 15 minutes
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8 disposals in 40 mins


:D He's got 9 now

[anniswan]

Terrible skills by Hawks, but we are not making them pay enough.

[anniswan]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Has Mathews been sighted yet? No stats.

Just took a mark

[anniswan]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Has Mathews been sighted yet? No stats.

High Tackle on Crawford, in front of goal.

[Carolyn]

Goal to...NICK DAVIS!!

[anniswan]

Crouch will come back on, he looks OK.

[anniswan]

I wish that Parkin would stfu, if I hear how good the Hawks are again I am going to puke.

[punter257]

we dropped to hawthorns level in that quarter - hopefully roosy gives em a spray

ROK has gone missing tonight

[Sanecow]

Originally posted by punter257
ROK has gone missing tonight

:confused:

[ROK Lobster]

I'm here, don't panic.

[Sanecow]

Another kick from willo - direct to an unmarked Hawthorn player.

[anniswan]

Being dragged down to the Hawks level big time now.

[Carolyn]

4 goals to Davis!

[anniswan]

Croad crunches Crawf, not looking good for Crawf

[Big Al]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
I'm here, don't panic.

Phew. My faith restored:D

[Carolyn]

Another goal to Sydney.

[anniswan]

Everitt is crucifying us at clearances.

[anniswan]

Davis off with possible hammy soreness.

[ROK Lobster]

MMM guy on the lines said just a general rub down, nothing in it

[ROK Lobster]

RWO mentioned on MMM

[j0lly]

rwo gets a mention on mmm about "torture" chambers

[Carolyn]

Ablett seems to be bleeding again. Paul Williams-GOAL!

[swans_premiers]

damn your quick carolyn

[ROK Lobster]

It's another rout...

[Big Al]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
It's another rout...

Too soon ROK. GoaL to Hawks.

[Carolyn]

Originally posted by swans_premiers
damn your quick carolyn Believe it or not, we actually have 20 minute typing classes at school, once a fortnight...

[anniswan]

some interesting umpiring decisions, overuse of the 50mtr penalty bigtime.

[swans_premiers]

O'loughin GOAL

haha too fast for carolyn

[ROK Lobster]

Rout's back on Big Al...

[Big Al]

Captain Kirk GOAL..46 point lead.

[ROK Lobster]

Did Ando just get a mention on MMM?

[graystar]

Listening on radio, Swans supporter ejected from the G

[Big Al]

Late Late goal to Hawks...bugger

[Big Al]

Originally posted by graystar
Listening on radio, Swans supporter ejected from the G

I'm fairly certain it's not me.

[Big Al]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Rout's back on Big Al...

Another 7 goal qtr and I will humbly agree. ;)

[anniswan]

Originally posted by Big Al
I'm fairly certain it's not me.

Me neither, sitting in my warm loungeroom,

[ROK Lobster]

Rushed Behind is not in the country so it wasn't him - could be Ando, he has form

[Big Al]

Originally posted by anniswan
Me neither, sitting in my warm loungeroom,

Yep. Warm bed,my laptop, a cold beer and the Swans up by 7 goals. Not a bad night in I must say.

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by Big Al
Yep. Warm bed,my laptop, a cold beer and the Swans up by 7 goals. Not a bad night in I must say. Just don't start to tell us what you are, or are not, wearing thanks Al.

[anniswan]

LRT taken high by Guerra, looks pretty groggy.

Now the biffo is starting

[Big Al]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Just don't start to tell us what you are, or are not, wearing thanks Al.

There are reasons that there are no mirrors in my room. I don't want to know either

[anniswan]

Willo may have been reported, not sure, but I think someone has.

Willo's jumper is ripped right down the front.

[Big Al]

The schneiderman strikes.

[anniswan]

Guerra, keeps on going at Willo

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by anniswan
LRT taken high by Guerra, looks pretty groggy.
Let's hope it doesn't affect his lightning decision making capacities.

[anniswan]

Guerra looks like he has done his hammy.

We are playing keepings off now.

But ROK kicks a goal

It's raining.

[Big Al]

100+ point 5 weeks in a row. :)

[Big Al]

Another one to Hall. 3 now to Baz

[ROK Lobster]

Originally posted by Big Al
Another one to Hall. 3 now to Baz Rout

[Big Al]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Rout

Yes I concede. I should have never doubted the ROK;) 4 Now for Baz.

[anniswan]

Parkin finally conceeds that the Swans are a good team. STFU please.

[swans_premiers]

Ugly,boring and low scoring no more...

[Big Al]

Kennett was right. The Hawks have gone home. Another goal to O'Keefe.

[Big Al]

65 point win. The juggernaut keeps rolling.

[Big Al]

If Vandenberg get 4 weeks for what he did then Guerra should get life for the shot on LRT. Just saw the replay. Did not look good.

[ROK Lobster]

Seemed like another good even performance too. Looking fwd to the St K and Collingwood games.

[graystar]

Originally posted by Big Al
Yep. Warm bed,my laptop, a cold beer and the Swans up by 7 goals. Not a bad night in I must say.
Next porn...

[Big Al]

Originally posted by graystar
Next porn...

:D

[ugg]

Cya Guerra you dirty little sniper.

[swans_premiers]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Seemed like another good even performance too. Looking fwd to the St K and Collingwood games.

Gotta take on the Kangas first. Can never right them off. Came back from 40 odd points down at 3Qtr time 2 years ago:(

[Big Al]

Originally posted by ROK Lobster
Seemed like another good even performance too. Looking fwd to the St K and Collingwood games.

Both games should nearly sellout. What games they should be.

[anniswan]

Originally posted by Big Al
Both games should nearly sellout. What games they should be.

Sellout at TS would be a hard ask against Collingwood, but it may be the biggest crowd ever at TS.

[midaro]

Originally posted by ugg
Cya Guerra you dirty little sniper.
Yep.
On MMM the first bloke to comment, said 6-8 weeks.
Dermott reckoned it 'would be looked at.' :rolleyes
My first look: 6-8 weeks.
It's pretty much as bad a strike as you can get.
How's LRT? Anything broken?

[dendol]

he came back on and played the game out, thankfully :)

[ugg]

Cmon with his history 6 weeks would be on the light side. Led with the elbow and jumped off the ground. His only saving grace would be that LRT came back on the ground and didn't seem to suffer any major injury.

[Thunder Shaker]

Just got back from the game. Good win, we played mediocre footy in the second quarter but were good in the other three. I managed to stay dry after it started raining in the last.

My flag got a workout during the game. For some of the goals I gave my flag to a kid sitting next to me so he could wave it instead.

LRT is fine - he was playing in the forward line in the last part of the game so he's OK. Malceski seems to be the only injury that will force a change. I'm hoping that C Bolts gets another week off so Schmitty the possy machine can get to make his debut.

[swantastic]

NMW u were nealy rite 10 goal win wats a couple of points

[The Boot]

Originally posted by ugg
Cmon with his history 6 weeks would be on the light side. Led with the elbow and jumped off the ground. His only saving grace would be that LRT came back on the ground and didn't seem to suffer any major injury.
Yeah, I hope Willo was saying "Hey, mate where are you going on your holiday!!??"
;)

[anniswan]

Originally posted by The Boot
Yeah, I hope Willo was saying "Hey, mate where are you going on your holiday!!??"
;)

I thought he would be saying where's your needle and cotton, to fix my jumper.

[Nico]

Another 3 votes to Goodesy.

Schneider played very well also. Becoming a bit of a vital cog in the team.

Fair dinkum I cant work out why they dont go for Davis every time they go into F50. Apart from that dumb push out he was as dangerous as it gets. He was very dark a few times when he made position as the go to and was ignored.

Was a very tough game with a heap of very hard close in bumps in the greasy conditions. Big win but I bet there are a few sore boys tonight.

Crouch has a hand injury from that tackle in the back pocket early in the last Q. Stayed on but was still carrying it after the game.

[Foreign Legion]

Good effort from the boys in a pretty easy win.

Barry Hall showed a LOT of guts to stay on the ground after Brown put the knee right into his ribs/stomach in the 2nd qtr. Most players would have been off for the night I reckon.

Guerra - well, lets say he will be resting for at least 3 weeks. Ablett did well on Hodge and Goodesy is a machine.

Kennelly must be retained at all costs - he just gives us so much drive and skill from the backline. O'Keefe had probably his worst night for the season but still redeemed himself late in the game - he's allowed 1 off night anyway.

Bring on the Roos - we should be ruthless with them - I still remember '96.

[graystar]

Bring on the Roos - we should be ruthless with them - I still remember '96. [/B]
That's why I am always wary of them. Never forget 96.

[NMWBloods]

A nice solid win, except for a flat second quarter, with everyone playing quite well to very well.

IMHO best were Davis, Schneider, Fosdike, Kirk, Williams, Jolly, Hall.

Goodes played well but no way 3 votes.

As I've said in recent weeks, most pleasing thing about our form now is that we are actually using our very potent forward line and we go forward with purpose and control.

[swantastic]

dejavu NMW 10 goals

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by swantastic
dejavu NMW 10 goals Yep, I was pleased with my prediction and the outcome of the game! :)

[swantastic]

did ya win some spondoolys

[NMWBloods]

Nah - that would have jinxed them!

[swantastic]

yes they would have won by 5 goals and you would have picked 39+

[gossipcom]

I was at the theatre tonight and had a bet with my friend who's a Hawks supporter - because of their recent form I had to give her a 50 point start - thank blooming God we snuck in over the 50 points mark :)

[wyatt]

Originally posted by ugg
Cmon with his history 6 weeks would be on the light side. Led with the elbow and jumped off the ground. His only saving grace would be that LRT came back on the ground and didn't seem to suffer any major injury. I'm surprised no-one's mentioned Croad's thump to the back of LRT's head in the Hawk goal square. Or Hodge's swinging elbow to Luke Ablett's mouth on the wing that ended up with Noggie taking a spell on the bench for the blood rule. I think these 2 lads, along with Guerra, will be joining Captain Ritchie on the Gold Coast for an early mid-season break.

[goswannie14]

Haven't looked through the whole thread, was at the game, has anyone mentioned Crawfords brain snap and probable tribunal appearance? He was sitting on top of Tadhg throwing punch after punch. I think everyone at the game saw it.:mad:

[Treefrog]

Originally posted by anniswan
I thought he would be saying where's your needle and cotton, to fix my jumper.
Nah, Willo and Guerra were just demonstrating to Collingwood how easy it is to desgin new away jumpers.:D

I was impressed that LRT could stand, let alone continue to play. As someone else has said, he had already received a big knock in the goal square that left him flat out.

[graystar]

Originally posted by wyatt
I'm surprised no-one's mentioned Croad's thump to the back of LRT's head in the Hawk goal square. Or Hodge's swinging elbow to Luke Ablett's mouth on the wing that ended up with Noggie taking a spell on the bench for the blood rule. I think these 2 lads, along with Guerra, will be joining Captain Ritchie on the Gold Coast for an early mid-season break.
So much for "We're a happy team at hawthorn".
They have serious discipline problems at the moment.

[goswannie14]

I think Alastair Clarkson is in gaga land, or is it just denial?
While the scoreboard did not reflect an even match, statistically, not much separated the teams, according to Hawthorn coach Alastair Clarkson.

"We beat them at hard ball gets, beat them at clearances. Believe it or not, we had the same scoring shots at three-quarter time," Clarkson said.

"Our inside 50s were similar, our possessions were similar, everything about the game, the two teams were very, very similar except that they were able to convert their opportunities and the opportunities they got they were able to kick easy goals because we made terrible turnovers with the footy."


Source (http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=269123)

[floppinab]

Originally posted by goswannie14
I think Alastair Clarkson is in gaga land, or is it just denial?

Source (http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=269123)

No he's not.

I'm a bit surprised how many are talking up our performance in this thread.

Up until half way through the 3rd they were smashing us in the clearances, contested possessions. Their skill level was attrocious and ours was excellent and our conversion inside 50 and on goal was very good, that was the difference at 3q time.

It's fantastic to see our skills so good remembering how much of an issue it was 4 odd years ago but this game was an uneven performance at best.

That sort of performance in close will see us smashed by Adel. WC and Collingwood. A bit of work to do there.

[liz]

Originally posted by floppinab
No he's not.

I'm a bit surprised how many are talking up our performance in this thread.

Up until half way through the 3rd they were smashing us in the clearances, contested possessions. Their skill level was attrocious and ours was excellent and our conversion inside 50 and on goal was very good, that was the difference at 3q time.

It's fantastic to see our skills so good remembering how much of an issue it was 4 odd years ago but this game was an uneven performance at best.

That sort of performance in close will see us smashed by Adel. WC and Collingwood. A bit of work to do there.

I agree with you in the sense that I didn't think the Swans played particularly well. Right from the opening bounce I thought they looked flat and they were missing their intensity at the contest for most of the match. Their skills were nothing like as sharp as two weeks ago against the Tigers.

However, I also think Clarkson is deluding himself. Despite a relative downer in intensity from the Swans, the Hawks never looked in the same league. Many of their possessions were pointless, and even those that weren't, rarely looked incisive or dangerous. The way that the Swans took the ball from defence and, with two or three possessions, took it the length of the ground to create an easy scoring chance should provide the Hawks with some clue about how to play the game.

I reckon the Hawks put in the worst performance against us of any team we've played this season. I think I'd rate the Tigers' effort as better, despite the scoreline.

[Mike_B]

Agree about our performance. I listened to the first quarter on the radio last night, then was out and came home to see the final score, watched the replay this morning. We were very ordinary IMHO, but that seems to be our general MO when we play poorer teams - drop to their level.

[Leeroy]

19 goals to 8 without playing too well isn't a bad result. Still, I hope Bolton Craig is around when we play better teams. The lack of his cool, calm play was noticeable.

[Nico]

Originally posted by graystar
So much for "We're a happy team at hawthorn".
They have serious discipline problems at the moment.

I hate Hawthorn with a passion. Their supporters over the years have been absolute swines at games. I love seeing them walk out early in the last Q with heads down.

Kick them in the guts when they are down I say. They deserve bucket mouth Jeff.

[NMWBloods]

I found the Hawthorn supporters we were sitting near to be quite decent.

Certainly nothing like the Richmond supporters of the other week.

Really depends on who you happen to strike. There are all sorts for each club.

[cruiser]

Originally posted by goswannie14
Haven't looked through the whole thread, was at the game, has anyone mentioned Crawfords brain snap and probable tribunal appearance? He was sitting on top of Tadhg throwing punch after punch. I think everyone at the game saw it.:mad: Apparently Tadgh laughed at him and told him he needed to find a new hairdresser.

Had an obnoxious Hawthorn supporter behind me (and there werent many in the Ponsford Stand) who cheered everytime a Swans player appeared to get hurt. He was so obnoxious when LRT got hit that I understood why some people get into fights at the footy. In Sydney I rarely have to deal with opposition supporters. But I agree NMW that sometimes you can just be unlucky and should be careful not to let one person cloud your opinion of an entire club. Except Port. And St Kilda. They're not isolated incidences.

BTW, the MCG is magnificent. I had a padded seat on the first tier and it was general admission ie $19.70!! Possibly the best stadium in the world.

[NMWBloods]

Originally posted by cruiser
BTW, the MCG is magnificent. I had a padded seat on the first tier and it was general admission ie $19.70!! Possibly the best stadium in the world. I was amazed by how nice the stadium is now.

As we were walking through the find a seat, Dad and I were thinking back to the ugly old days of the MCG with its abundance of crappy concrete, poor seating, disgusting toilets, and overwhelming number of drunks.

[timbo]

Any other melbourne supporters rember the old days in the early nineties when we played the hawks out at waverley and got flogged every time we played them?

It's good to see the tables have finally turned. Last three times we have played them its been a 60+ margain.

[NMWBloods]

I remember the last game at Waverly in 1999, when the Hawks destroyed us by 85 points. If we had won we would have finished 5th and instead we finished 8th and were smashed by the Bombers in finals the following week.

[j s]

Originally posted by anniswan
Sellout at TS would be a hard ask against Collingwood, but it may be the biggest crowd ever at TS.
Biggest AFL crowd maybe. Impossible to be the biggest crowd ever seeing as TS is 30,000 seats smaller than it used to be.

[cruiser]

Originally posted by j s
Biggest AFL crowd maybe impossible to be the biggest crowd seeing as TS is 30,000 seats smaller than it used to be. The seating now is the same as it was for the game there v Collingwood in 2004. So we could beat it this year (it was about 72,000)

[j s]

Originally posted by cruiser
The seating now is the same as it was for the game there v Collingwood in 2004. So we could beat it this year (it was about 72,000)
That's what I meant - some bad punctuation in my initial post

[Mel]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
I remember the last game at Waverly in 1999, when the Hawks destroyed us by 85 points. If we had won we would have finished 5th and instead we finished 8th and were smashed by the Bombers in finals the following week.

Unfortunately I remember that game too. My sister and I stayed to the bitter end and then got stuck in traffic on the way to the airport and almost missed our flight home. The best part of the day was the numerous Hawks supporters who wished us luck the following week as they weren't in the finals that year.

I'm glad I read the last few posts in this thread, I was starting to think I'd had more wine than I thought. I was underwhelmed by the performance on Saturday night too. A win by a margins such as that is always good, but the last few weeks have made me greedy for fast, exciting and skill-packed performances.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Originally posted by Leeroy
19 goals to 8 without playing too well isn't a bad result.
Indeed a 10 goal result is always great.
I have 1 concern other than Paul Chambers.
I was surprised at how well Campbell did on Hall, either he's phenomenally quick and fit for a ruckman or our disposal to Barry was less than optimal.

[NMWBloods]

Campbell did play very well, but Hall was also injured from fairly early in the game. Hall could easily have kicked 5 goals, which is a fair return.

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by timbo
It's good to see the tables have finally turned. Last three times we have played them its been a 60+ margain. Not quite, last year IIRC it was 42 and 44 points, or vice versa.

[Ruck'n'Roll]

Originally posted by NMWBloods
Campbell did play very well, but Hall was also injured from fairly early in the game. Hall could easily have kicked 5 goals, which is a fair return.
I'd assumed he'd been winded, how injured is he?

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by Ruck'n'Roll
I'd assumed he'd been winded, how injured is he? I thouight he was winded, but he took a while to get up and looked a bit dazed for about 10 minutes.

[NMWBloods]

He took a knee to the rib cage. The commentators were wondering about a broken rib.

[possumfeatures]

I don't know about his ribs, but that hit would have slowed anyone down for a while. Watching the game live and then on tv, I got the sense that many of the boys need a rest...they look tired and sore. I have especially noticed that Barry seems to get up very carefully every time he ends up on the deck, like he is sore in the groin/abdominal area.

I hope that it is just my natural paranoia about injuries and not a real concern, but I reckon the break can't come soon enough for some of them.

[swansrock4eva]

Originally posted by Mel
Unfortunately I remember that game too. My sister and I stayed to the bitter end and then got stuck in traffic on the way to the airport and almost missed our flight home. The best part of the day was the numerous Hawks supporters who wished us luck the following week as they weren't in the finals that year.

I'm glad I read the last few posts in this thread, I was starting to think I'd had more wine than I thought. I was underwhelmed by the performance on Saturday night too. A win by a margins such as that is always good, but the last few weeks have made me greedy for fast, exciting and skill-packed performances.

I remember that one! It was the last game at Waverly! I was pretty down after we got so thoroughly smashed after all the weekend's results went our way for a good finish, but the highlight was watching everyone demolish the ground! I ended up with a piece of turf that still grows in my backyard to this day!

As to the game, I'm with those who weren't totally enthused with it. Bad opposiition made us look quite good, but I think we've got a lot more there and can be a lot better. I hope we see it in coming weeks :)

[liz]

Originally posted by goswannie14
Not quite, last year IIRC it was 42 and 44 points, or vice versa.

You recall incorrectly. One was about 54, the other just over 60.

[ugg]

Brent Guerra, Hawthorn, has been charged with a Level Four striking offence against Lewis Roberts-Thomson, Sydney, during the fourth quarter of the Round Nine match between Hawthorn and Sydney, played at the MCG on Saturday May 27, 2006.

His previous poor record means his penalty remains as a three-game sanction.

The incident was assessed as reckless conduct (two points), high impact (three points), in play (no points) and high contact (two points). This is a total of seven activation points, which relates to a Level Four offence, drawing 325 demerit points and a three-match sanction. He has a total of four matches suspended within the last three years, increasing his penalty by 30 per cent to 422.50 points and a four-game sanction. An early plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent to 316.88 points and a three-match sanction.


3 weeks for the sniper.

[goswannie14]

Originally posted by liz
You recall incorrectly. One was about 54, the other just over 60. 63 points round 1 2005, 54 points round 22 2005.