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Troy G
25th August 2003, 06:37 PM
Brodie Holland, Collingwood, reported on video evidence by umpire Mathew James for striking Paul Williams, Sydney, during the first quarter of the Round 21 match between Collingwood and Sydney at Telstra Stadium on Saturday August 23, 2003.

The AFL also wishes to advise that a number of incidents from the weekend's matches have been reviewed by umpires this afternoon.

Umpire Michael Vozzo viewed footage of an incident from Saturday night's match between Collingwood and Sydney at Telstra Stadium where Brodie Holland made contact with Paul Williams. It was umpire Vozzo's view that contact was made with Holland's thighs, and not his knees, and that the resultant 50 metre penalty paid on the night was sufficient for the incident.

gossipcom
25th August 2003, 06:41 PM
Sorry didn't realise you had a thread already open I'll post it in here instead:

This didn't surprise me at all.

It wouldn't also surprise me if Ben Cousins might be charged with striking as well - he definitely connected with one of the Demons last night - but knowing him he'll get off scott free again *sigh*

Holland Charged with Striking Williams (http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,7060572-23211,00.html)
August 25, 2003

COLLINGWOOD midfielder Brodie Holland will front the AFL Tribunal tomorrow night after he was charged with striking Sydney's Paul Williams on a video charge.

Holland was reported by umpire Mathew James for striking Williams in Saturday night's game at Telstra Stadium.

Holland will face the tribunal with Fremantle forward Paul Medhurst, who was reported for kicking Essendon's Danny Jacobs at Telstra Dome on Saturday.

Medhurst has been a key player all year for the Dockers, who are preparing for their first-ever finals series, and leads the club's goalkicking with 45.

Collingwood will sweat on Holland's charge ahead of Friday night's blockbuster against Essendon, as the tagger is one of the most improved players at the club.

Holland tagged former Magpie Williams all night and it was clear there was some angst between the pair.

Williams goaled from a 50-metre penalty after Holland fell on the Swan as he lay on the ground, but umpire Michael Vozzo today said Holland had made contact with Williams with his thighs and not his knees.

Two incidents from yesterday's game between West Coast and Melbourne will also require no more action following the video review.

Demon Clint Bizzell made contact with field umpire Darren Morris, but reviewers ruled the contact was caused by an accidental bump on Bizzell by Eagle Glen Jakovich.

A clash that left Melbourne's Ryan Ferguson bloodied will also require no further scrutiny.

The video review of the weekend's matches is continuing.

AAP

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http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=115370 (Official AFL Website)

Holland faces striking charge
5:23:51 PM Mon 25 August, 2003
Paul Gough
afl.com.au
Collingwood could be without its number one tagger Brodie Holland for Friday night?s blockbuster against Essendon at the MCG and for the start of the AFL finals series after he was booked on video evidence on Monday for striking Sydney veteran Paul Williams.

Holland will face the AFL Tribunal on Tuesday night and faces a nervous wait as video footage of the incident does not look good for the much-improved Magpie star.



A replay of the incident on Monday showed Holland appearing to punch Williams to the face behind play with the Swans star ending up on the ground as a result.

Such an act usually brings a suspension of at least two weeks at the tribunal meaning Holland is now in serious danger of missing the start of the finals series.

That would be a huge blow to the Magpies as Holland, who began his career as a specialist forward pocket, has emerged as one of the AFL?s best taggers this season.

Holland will be joined at the tribunal on Tuesday night by Fremantle goalsneak Paul Medhurst, who was reported on the serious charge of kicking during Saturday?s loss to Essendon at Telstra Dome.

And like Collingwood, the Dockers will be sweating on the result of that hearing as they prepare for not only Saturday night?s huge local derby against West Coast but for their first ever finals appearance in a fortnight.

However while Holland will have to answer a striking charge on Tuesday night, he was cleared of any wrongdoing for his part in another incident with Williams during the Pies? thrilling win over Sydney at Telstra Stadium on Saturday night.

Field umpire Michael Vozzo viewed footage of an incident where Holland made contact with Williams but decided contact was made by Holland?s thighs, as he slid into Williams, rather than his knees and did not constitute a report.

Holland gave away a 50-metre penalty as a result of the incident for unnecessary contact on Williams after he had taken possession of the ball.
Meanwhile Melbourne defender Clint Bizzell was cleared of making contact with an umpire during the Demons? loss to West Coast at Subiaco on Sunday.

The umpire concerned was field umpire Darren Morris, who ruled the contact by Bizzell was unavoidable after the Melbourne defender had himself been accidentally bumped into Morris by Eagles? veteran Glen Jakovich.

Ruda Wakening
25th August 2003, 07:12 PM
Brodie Holland can now add a new skill to his resume ...

King Hit Merchant

Charlie
25th August 2003, 08:01 PM
Totally unprovoked, off the ball, very nasty.

And Willo didn't bother to kick up a fuss. I admire the man. God knows how much he gets that treatment without the scragging little bastards getting caught, but he was focused enough to just get on with the game.

dawson
25th August 2003, 08:16 PM
Speaking of taggers, how do we think Captain went against Bucks or has that already been discussed?

BAM_BAM
25th August 2003, 08:40 PM
if it's possible I think James would be a favourite of a bad bunch for me Vozzo's call doesn't surprise, always calls against us.

I think Kirky frustrated the hell out of Buckethead early.

Cheer Cheer
25th August 2003, 09:38 PM
Should go for at least 2 , hopefully more, but i hope he gets back to finals to enjoy collingwood go straight out of the finals - that is punishment enough!

It was a king hit

penga
26th August 2003, 12:16 AM
i saw it on the couch tonight and willo wasnt even looking! very cheap shot...

gossipcom
26th August 2003, 12:42 AM
After seeing the cheap shot again along with the 50 metre penalty 2 mins later for the so called thighs coming in late, it makes perfect sense why Willo did the death stare at Holland afterwards - it was more a death stare/smirk ;)

That being said I managed to salvage the last min of the game *ugh* well the part where Buckley was on stage and noone was listening to him ;) and they showed the Swans, the look on Willo's face there *sigh* I feel like screencapping it just to show the disappointment on the Swans faces :(

ETA: after reading the Daily Telegraph article on the striking today - it makes sense why Willo was benched at the end of the second quarter - apparently the strike wasn't the first one that Willo had rec'd by Holland on the night - he had rec'd one earlier on as well.

BAM_BAM
26th August 2003, 10:26 AM
I hadn't seen the footage until watching on the couch last night.

What a dirty little B@#$tad.

Good on Willo for the way he handled it. Cream always rises to the top.

gloveski
26th August 2003, 12:06 PM
No place in the AFL for king hits should get atleast three weeks

swan_song
26th August 2003, 02:00 PM
What is more to the point, is how at least 1 of 3 field umpires, 1 of 2 boundary umpires and at least one goal umpire FAILED to see it!!!
A king hit like that is premeditated and although iMHO the damage was nowhere near as serious as the Picioane incident, the INTENT was....
That dirty collingwod slag will now sit alongside gouger rioli in my dugout of scum players...



And, how remiss of me, Libba.

Mike_B
26th August 2003, 02:11 PM
Was interesting that it was mentioned by one of the 'On the Couch' panellists (I forget which one) as worse than the Jess Sinclair on Lance Picioane one. I think 5 weeks would go down nicely....

BAM_BAM
26th August 2003, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by swan_song
That dirty collingwod slag will now sit alongside gouger rioli in my dugout of scum players...


is it coincidental that it was Willo on both occasions, that the above mentioned offences took place, or just a mark of a hack trying to contain a great player?

another spooky coincidence, both were at SA

wasn't the bench in your dug out named after Libba Swan_Song?

ugg
26th August 2003, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by swan_song
What is more to the point, is how at least 1 of 3 field umpires, 1 of 2 boundary umpires and at least one goal umpire FAILED to see it!!!
A king hit like that is premeditated and although iMHO the damage was nowhere near as serious as the Picioane incident, the INTENT was....
That dirty collingwod slag will now sit alongside gouger rioli in my dugout of scum players...



And, how remiss of me, Libba.

Lucky he missed with his knee and his attempted trip or else it would be 7-9 weeks

gossipcom
26th August 2003, 03:00 PM
Originally posted by Mike_B
Was interesting that it was mentioned by one of the 'On the Couch' panellists (I forget which one) as worse than the Jess Sinclair on Lance Picioane one. I think 5 weeks would go down nicely....

That sounds very nice indeed.

When you look at the shot it does actually look worse than the Picioane incident. Willo was very lucky that he didn't get a fractured cheekbone because of it :(

Definitely not coincidental - and I think the judiciary will most likely bring that into the evidence at the hearing.

If I was Holland I wouldn't want Willo to be giving evidence or he'll be out for the rest of the season ;)

But I'm glad he missed someone shouldn't do that in general and even moreso when it's Willo involved *sigh*

TheHood
26th August 2003, 03:08 PM
The camera work is so good, I think they would be reluctant to waste Willo's time, unless they want to get his take on the severity of the blow.

I think the intent is enough to give him 5 weeks. This would be nice and it would also show the NRL that we address our issues slightly more efficiently than they do. Even though the "knee" incident has turned to a "thigh" one, I reckon it will compound the judiciary's sentencing.

There hasn't been a scum player for a while but this goon takes the cake for 2003.

Mike_B
26th August 2003, 03:10 PM
And he has now been labelled by a few as "The new Libba" - That really says it all...

Ruda Wakening
26th August 2003, 04:30 PM
Another small coincidence is a player from the same team was also suspended on a striking charge late last year . Remember Jason Cloke in the PF ... Seems it gets a bit hot in the kitchen for some pies, when the chips are down.

I'm not a big fan of foul play, but Brodie Holland hasn't even got the intestinal fortitude, that if he felt the urge to clobber someone - to be man enough to do it when the persons facing him .

Maybe Jason Cloke can console him, and tell him what its like not to play at the most important time of year . :D

The guys always been a moron, but even worse, now he's a moron with a heart the size of a split pea . Karma Brodie, karma...

BAM_BAM
26th August 2003, 04:52 PM
my sister just emailed me something appropriate;

.......... well his guernsey says "wipe off 5" so I think that's fitting .........


is it an omen? or as RW said Karma

Rod_
26th August 2003, 04:54 PM
Great camera work.....

2nd offence this year and a couple that were close . everyone will be watching him from now on and 5 weeks suits me fine....

Rod_

penga
26th August 2003, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by Ruda Wakening
Another small coincidence is a player from the same team was also suspended on a striking charge late last year . Remember Jason Cloke in the PF

while i agree with the sentence against cloke, the intent was VERY different... i think it was gary lyon who pointed out early this season that cloke only spoils with his right hand... the intent was to spoil...

Jason Nevins
26th August 2003, 07:57 PM
Hah!

Weren't you the same fans who "supported" Plugger Lockett, the same Plugger Lockett that nearly killed a Swans player on the field?

Ruda Wakening
26th August 2003, 08:04 PM
Agreed about Cloke . I wasn't trying to draw comparisons between him and Brodie as far as their intentions were concerned . I meant it was a coincedence that yet another young Pie falls foul of the judicary, around this time of year .

Ruda Wakening
26th August 2003, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Jason Nevins
Hah!

Weren't you the same fans who "supported" Plugger Lockett, the same Plugger Lockett that nearly killed a Swans player on the field?

No i wasn't . I was too busy wasting my time and money supporting your mob at the time .

Glenn
26th August 2003, 08:25 PM
Interesting article in the Daily Telegraph asking if Brodie is the New Libba apparently seems to be building a reputation for cheap shots etc

As for the Tribunal, probably get a slap on the wrist :rolleyes: