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ROK Lobster
10th August 2008, 09:56 AM
Enough is enough. I like Bevo, I always have. I would have liked to have seen him given #14. He signed by 2005 cap. The only thing I don't like about him is Connolly, and reading on here that he is the best since sliced bread. The mark he took last night was a great mark at a time when a loose ball in the Freo forward line could have meant a loss. He showed considerable courage, as he always does, but please let's not get carried away. I think his disposal has improved enormously and that he is a good footballer, and I like watching him play, but he is simply AFL stndard, doing the thing that a couple of hundred other blokes do week in and week out.

connolly
10th August 2008, 10:49 AM
Enough is enough. I like Bevo, I always have. I would have liked to have seen him given #14. He signed by 2005 cap. The only thing I don't like about him is Connolly, and reading on here that he is the best since sliced bread. The mark he took last night was a great mark at a time when a loose ball in the Freo forward line could have meant a loss. He showed considerable courage, as he always does, but please let's not get carried away. I think his disposal has improved enormously and that he is a good footballer, and I like watching him play, but he is simply AFL stndard, doing the thing that a couple of hundred other blokes do week in and week out.

Not good enough by a long chalk. He is an oustanding footballer because he is fearless like Kelly and as strong as Maxfield. His mark was as good as Riewoldt's of a couple of seasons ago. It is a rare courage and talent to fly into the face of pack and hold a contested mark, particularly to save a match. He has made the tackle and the mark of the year. ROK you are the first bandwagonner to be ejected off the Bevowagon. Off!!!

CureTheSane
10th August 2008, 11:08 AM
Not good enough by a long chalk. He is an oustanding footballer because he is fearless like Kelly and as strong as Maxfield. His mark was as good as Riewoldt's of a couple of seasons ago. It is a rare courage and talent to fly into the face of pack and hold a contested mark, particularly to save a match. He has made the tackle and the mark of the year. ROK you are the first bandwagonner to be ejected off the Bevowagon. Off!!!

Sounds like you want to tongue kiss him :)

Matt79
10th August 2008, 11:22 AM
Sounds like you want to tongue kiss him :)

He has a man crush!! :p

swansrule100
10th August 2008, 11:29 AM
last night is Bevan at his best, not just the mark, he seemed to have no fear and go in hard last night a hell of a lot.

He makes mistakes due to average skills, but if he plays with that courage and application you can wear errors around the ground.

hammo
10th August 2008, 12:18 PM
Very true. LRT also seems to get a lot of praise when he does things that AFL defenders are supposed to do week in week out.

stellation
10th August 2008, 01:48 PM
His disposal is greatly improved this year, although I think there is a component of learning to work within his limitations about it and in having more time to line up his disposal than he has in the past.

His play has improved a lot this year, I think it is fair to say that the improvement has been from sub-standard to AFL standard.

Nico
10th August 2008, 01:53 PM
I agree ROK. Banish me if you please Connolly.

RogueSwan
10th August 2008, 02:06 PM
He has a man crush!! :p

Nah it is just guy love Guy love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL4L4Uv5rf0).
gees I love that show;)

NMWBloods
10th August 2008, 02:35 PM
Stalking and manic obsession doesn't usually equate with love...
;)

reigning premier
10th August 2008, 02:47 PM
I think the question should be;

Is he really all that good, or is he just so much better than he was last year?

Because we all know he was god awful prior to this year. Perhaps the difference is so contrasting, some of us get confused?

TheMase
10th August 2008, 02:54 PM
I agree ROK. Banish me if you please Connolly.

Me too.

Seagoon
10th August 2008, 02:56 PM
I think Bevan has been playing well for some time - he certainly played OK last year IMHO. I though Schmidt played well last year too. Jack didn't quite cut it last year it seems? But he got the 15 this year.

One thing I do think is that good players shouldn'd be given numbers higher than 39. Especially not in Sydney - it makes them look like reserve grade players (in the eyes of league fans and so potential converts) and I don't think its good marketting.

Excuse me, now im off to look at the full player list to see what the number allocation looks like!

connolly
10th August 2008, 03:18 PM
I think Bevan has been playing well for some time - he certainly played OK last year IMHO. I though Schmidt played well last year too. Jack didn't quite cut it last year it seems? But he got the 15 this year.

One thing I do think is that good players shouldn'd be given numbers higher than 39. Especially not in Sydney - it makes them look like reserve grade players (in the eyes of league fans and so potential converts) and I don't think its good marketting.

Excuse me, now im off to look at the full player list to see what the number allocation looks like!

Good point. Next season they will take the 4 off his back and he will wear the number 2. O such sweet exquisite irony.

Triple B
10th August 2008, 03:30 PM
Good point. Next season they will take the 4 off his back and he will wear the number 2. O such sweet exquisite irony.

Hehehehe :D :D

swantastic
10th August 2008, 03:32 PM
Bevo was pretty good last night and at least 3 times he went back with the flight of the ball.We all cant forget the last mark with about 2 minutes to go,it was bloody swantastic.

Big Al
10th August 2008, 03:36 PM
Stalking and manic obsession doesn't usually equate with love...
;)

Yes, the courts have recently made that clear to me...;)

stellation
10th August 2008, 03:43 PM
Good point. Next season they will take the 4 off his back and he will wear the number 2. O such sweet exquisite irony.
That's a good point, 2 is the number of kicks he got in each of the 4 games leading up to somehow getting selected for the 2005 Grand Final team.

swantastic
10th August 2008, 03:53 PM
That's a good point, 2 is the number of kicks he got in each of the 4 games leading up to somehow getting selected for the 2005 Grand Final team.Harsh but who cares who was in the team,we bloody won.

swansrule100
10th August 2008, 03:59 PM
if i want a player to go out and stop the team being beaten id take bevan in a heart beat.

but if i want someone to win the game he would be one of the last.

Heart and ticker are great and he is in the best 22, but his skills are pretty ordinary.

GoBloods
10th August 2008, 04:03 PM
i have never questioned his courage or 'heart' but his skills always let Paul down. he was an ordinary player
This year he has improved his skills, contributes more and is definitely a valuable member of our team.
Has gone forward one or twice and kicked goals ( carlton ), defended well and last nights mark emphasised that he dosent give up.
Well done Bevo

Melbournehammer
10th August 2008, 04:18 PM
I will repeat what i have said. He is a great tackler (although he actually missed a few last night) is a great kick in space and time and very courageous. He still makes dumb mistakes in close and the mark was very brave. But players like him are dime a dozen in the league as they ought be. But all the same well done for making himself a league footballer.

by the way we desperately need the bulldogs to win and they are seriously struggling

WASwansFanatic
10th August 2008, 04:45 PM
I must say.... I got a raja over Bevan last night... He has certainly come a long way. Superb game last night and good to see he is finally developing!

DeadlyAkkuret
10th August 2008, 05:04 PM
Nah it is just guy love Guy love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL4L4Uv5rf0).
gees I love that show;)

"There's no need to clarify. Oh no?"

LOL

Nico
10th August 2008, 06:01 PM
Yes, the courts have recently made that clear to me...;)

What's wrong with a manic obsession of curried sausages?

Bloody Hell
11th August 2008, 05:59 AM
Agree with the OP.

Despite the persistence of one particular poster, Bevan has made the transition from fringe player to mid-tier player this year....that is all.

He is in the best 22.

connolly
11th August 2008, 08:00 AM
Agree with the OP.

Despite the persistence of one particular poster, Bevan has made the transition from fringe player to mid-tier player this year....that is all.

He is in the best 22.

He is one of our most valuable players and certainly the most versatile. He is in the top tier of the team. Refer to Roos comments after the Freo game. But then he is only the coach. Dear o dear.

Wardy
11th August 2008, 09:02 AM
He is one of our most valuable players and certainly the most versatile. He is in the top tier of the team. Refer to Roos comments after the Freo game. But then he is only the coach. Dear o dear.


look he played well but so did few others - Goodes - anyone? - but for god sake - get your hand off it Connolly - you will go blind!!!!!

AussieAnge
11th August 2008, 11:45 AM
He is one of our most valuable players and certainly the most versatile. He is in the top tier of the team.

I can just imagine the hours of sleep Mark Thompson is going to lose wondering who he's going to put on Bevan. Poor guy.

I haven't got anything against Bevan but as others have said he is a good run-of-the-mill player who is no superstar. Time will tell whether he'll become one but I doubt it.

DeadlyAkkuret
11th August 2008, 08:39 PM
He is one of our most valuable players and certainly the most versatile. He is in the top tier of the team. Refer to Roos comments after the Freo game. But then he is only the coach. Dear o dear.

No, he's not. Don't get me wrong, I really like Bevan's work this year and he now deserves a place in the first 22, but he's not one of our most valuable.

O'Keefe, Goodes, Jolly, Kirk, B1, B2, O'Loughlin, Hall, Crouch, Mattner, Richards, Kennelly and probably a few more are still way more valuable than Bevan.

Lohengrin
11th August 2008, 08:57 PM
He is one of our most valuable players and certainly the most versatile. He is in the top tier of the team. Refer to Roos comments after the Freo game. But then he is only the coach. Dear o dear.
Indeed! :eek:

swansrule100
11th August 2008, 09:07 PM
He is one of our most valuable players and certainly the most versatile. He is in the top tier of the team. Refer to Roos comments after the Freo game. But then he is only the coach. Dear o dear.

im all for having a favorite player but geez.

I will give you one thing your good for a laugh

Big Al
11th August 2008, 09:26 PM
What's wrong with a manic obsession of curried sausages?

Nothing, unless your stalking the one who makes the best curry sausages this side of Bombay. Then apparently you've gone too far. Go Figure.

connolly
11th August 2008, 10:08 PM
No, he's not. Don't get me wrong, I really like Bevan's work this year and he now deserves a place in the first 22, but he's not one of our most valuable.

O'Keefe, Goodes, Jolly, Kirk, B1, B2, O'Loughlin, Hall, Crouch, Mattner, Richards, Kennelly and probably a few more are still way more valuable than Bevan.

In front of Richards, Crouch and rated with Mattner. In the top twelve. Future leadership group.

hammo
11th August 2008, 10:09 PM
In front of Richards, Crouch and rated with Mattner. In the top twelve. Future leadership group.

At which club?

A guy who lacks confidence in his own ability won't be a candidate for a leadership position.

bandwagon
11th August 2008, 10:11 PM
In front of Richards, Crouch and rated with Mattner. In the top twelve. Future leadership group.
Dunno about leadership... but in the Top 12 or so sound realistic to me. Guess we will see at the B&F night.

liz
11th August 2008, 10:20 PM
He'll probably finish top 10 in the B&F this year, but so will Mattner and Ted's got a great chance too. Doesn't yet mean he's in the top tier of players. Monty finished 4th, I think it was, in our PREMIERSHIP year but he's not been able to sustain it.

He deserves plaudits for a very competitive and much improved season. Watching players improve is, in many ways, more satisfying that seeing them burst onto the scene as very good players to start with. It's why Luffy became such a cult figure at the club - made the transition from journeyman to become a super player for a few seasons, including a top 3 B&F figure and arguably BOG in the first half of the 1996 grannie. Dunks did a similar thing - was just a so-so defender for many years and then suddenly became one of the best FBs in the competition in 1996, and was able to sustain it for most of the rest of his career. It's also why we're getting so much pleasure out of McVeigh's year this year.

DeadlyAkkuret
11th August 2008, 10:52 PM
In front of Richards, Crouch and rated with Mattner. In the top twelve. Future leadership group.

Only in terms of age. If Crouch had played fit all season, he'd win us more games than Bevan would. Again I'm not bagging Bevo, you just overrate him quite a bit.

Bloody Hell
12th August 2008, 05:11 AM
He is one of our most valuable players and certainly the most versatile. He is in the top tier of the team. Refer to Roos comments after the Freo game. But then he is only the coach. Dear o dear.
Just for clarity could you rank the Swans best 22 from 1 - 22....or at least the next 5 after you get to Bevan? (I understand if you don't want to do this....I couldn't be arsed.)

Bloody Hell
12th August 2008, 05:15 AM
Does anyone remember Leigh Matthews comments as Bevo received his Premiership Medal after the 2005 GF?

Wardy
12th August 2008, 08:18 AM
Does anyone remember Leigh Matthews comments as Bevo received his Premiership Medal after the 2005 GF?

All too well and I totally agreed with him. He had the easiest day of all of them - sitting on the pine watching the game putting in very little (the few minutes he was actually on the field) and gets the spoils at the end. I felt for Vogels he was shafted that day for sure. But we all know that the king of the cardigans , connolly, will say otherwise.

hammo
12th August 2008, 08:35 AM
But we all know that the king of the cardigans , connolly, will say otherwise.

To paraphrase him, the pumped up thug from Glenferrie doesn't hold a candle to our Bevo.

connolly
12th August 2008, 08:36 AM
Does anyone remember Leigh Matthews comments as Bevo received his Premiership Medal after the 2005 GF?

Mathews is a dead set misanthrope. He is the only convicted criminal in the history of the game whose conviction resulted from one of the most cowardly acts ever committed on a football field. As for lucky the cheap thug had the great luck to coach a team of champions who fell into his lap, coach another premiership team in the worst year in living memory for football, be named ahead of the great Laurie Nash in the greatest footballers of all time (luck unbelievable) and is now being consistently out coached every weeek by all and sundry. His comment about a young courageous footballer at a grand final presentation was gratiutous and wrong. Bevan played an essential role in 05 as a defensive midfielder. In the time he was on the ground he applied tremedous physical pressure on the WC midfield, which in case Mathews missed it was an essential part of the Bloods (winning) game plan. Bevan also played a very good third quarter for the time he was on the ground, playing on Fletcher. The only reason that i remember this arse clown's disgraceful comments is that they demonstrated clearly why he shouldn't be let near a microphone when his coaching days (mercifully for Brisbane) come to an inevitable conclusion. He was a dirty sniper when he played and is a dirty sniper as a commentator (Goodes is a favourite etc). He has no credibility whilst Bevan proves himself every week as a hard but fair sportsman. Something the little thug wouldn't recognise even if he fell over one.

connolly
12th August 2008, 08:38 AM
To paraphrase him, the pumped up thug from Glenferrie doesn't hold a candle to our Bevo.

Hammo i wish i had read that before i answered our mate in Ireland. Got it in one. And would have saved me some time.

connolly
12th August 2008, 08:44 AM
Just for clarity could you rank the Swans best 22 from 1 - 22....or at least the next 5 after you get to Bevan? (I understand if you don't want to do this....I couldn't be arsed.)

Richards
Moore
Bird
LRT
Spida

Wardy
12th August 2008, 08:44 AM
Please share the drugs you are on connolly - coz you are in a completely different world to the rest of us.

connolly
12th August 2008, 08:48 AM
All too well and I totally agreed with him. He had the easiest day of all of them - sitting on the pine watching the game putting in very little (the few minutes he was actually on the field) and gets the spoils at the end. I felt for Vogels he was shafted that day for sure. But we all know that the king of the cardigans , connolly, will say otherwise.

I have got the cashmere Fletcher Jones beige number on now as a matter of fact. Bevo was picked because we needed to maintain defensive pressure of the WC midfield consistently during the match. He did his job very well. Vogels didn't get a game because he couldn't do that job. As for Mathews talk about luck. He should have done jail time for a cowardly assault.

connolly
12th August 2008, 08:53 AM
Please share the drugs you are on connolly - coz you are in a completely different world to the rest of us.

You want some Viagra????

stellation
12th August 2008, 08:55 AM
You want some Viagra????
Are you sure you've actually taken some? I imagine discussing Bevo has the same result.

Bloody Hell
12th August 2008, 09:09 AM
Undisputable

Hall
Davis (especially for you)
McVeigh
O'Keefe
C.Bolton
Malceski
Fosdike
Jolly
Kennelly
O'Loughlin
Ablett
Barry
J.Bolton
Mattner
Kirk
Buchanan
Goodes

Disputable
Richards
Crouch
Moore
.........

Bevan

Mid tier....at best.


Richards
Moore
Bird
LRT
Spida

connolly
12th August 2008, 09:18 AM
Undisputable

Hall
Davis (especially for you)


At this point i stopped.

Wardy
12th August 2008, 09:25 AM
You want some Viagra????

well that speaks volumes!!! I could say something really really rude, better not, I value my infraction points!;)

ScottH
12th August 2008, 09:30 AM
Offersing Wardy viagra, that's a bit stiff.

Wardy
12th August 2008, 09:31 AM
Offersing Wardy viagra, that's a bit stiff.


Indeed!!! :D

stellation
12th August 2008, 09:32 AM
Offersing Wardy viagra, that's a bit stiff.
If someone dies from a viagra overdose, how quickly does rigamortis set in?

Wardy
12th August 2008, 09:37 AM
If someone dies from a viagra overdose, how quickly does rigamortis set in?

Dunno - but I reckon putting the sheet over the deceased would be like pitching a tent!

ScottH
12th August 2008, 09:44 AM
If someone dies from a viagra overdose, how quickly does rigamortis set in?


Dunno - but I reckon putting the sheet over the deceased would be like pitching a tent!

That's why coffins are so high.

swansrule100
12th August 2008, 01:07 PM
bevan will need to keep improving upon this year to ensure he is not overtaken by younger players comming through.

I am impressed with his season this year. An overall look at his career though and he has spent a lot of it being disapointing. One season well say 9 good games in a season does not make you a champion does it connolly?

you dont mark others so easily?

AnnieH
12th August 2008, 01:10 PM
Not good enough by a long chalk. He is an oustanding footballer because he is fearless like Kelly and as strong as Maxfield. His mark was as good as Riewoldt's of a couple of seasons ago. It is a rare courage and talent to fly into the face of pack and hold a contested mark, particularly to save a match. He has made the tackle and the mark of the year. ROK you are the first bandwagonner to be ejected off the Bevowagon. Off!!!

Sweetie. Next time you want to try drugs, come and see me first.
The ones that you're taking aren't nearly strong enough!!

Fearless like Kels ... indeed.

Have you ever seen Paul Kelly play a game - or are you just going on hearsay?

Lohengrin
12th August 2008, 01:29 PM
Anyone who thinks Leigh Matthews, as a 4-time premiership coach and 4-time premiership player and premiership captain, was a lucky coach and not a particularly good player, would have to have his views on players questioned.

Donners
12th August 2008, 01:57 PM
Had to laugh at the Kelly comparisons. He's more like an uninjured Chapman, with a bit less skill. He'll have his place, but be quickly forgotten once somebody better comes along.

CureTheSane
12th August 2008, 02:36 PM
Anyone who thinks Leigh Matthews, as a 4-time premiership coach and 4-time premiership player and premiership captain, was a lucky coach and not a particularly good player, would have to have his views on players questioned.

Absolutely

Perspective.

Comparing Bevan to Kelly and Matthews?
Really?

connolly
12th August 2008, 06:55 PM
Sweetie. Next time you want to try drugs, come and see me first.
The ones that you're taking aren't nearly strong enough!!

Fearless like Kels ... indeed.

Have you ever seen Paul Kelly play a game - or are you just going on hearsay?

Im going on mysay. Bevo is as courageous as Kelly (saw Kelly's first game, his last and most in between) and that is a big rap but one that is warranted. Bevo had a couple of stitches at half time last week and flew back into an oncoming pack to save the game. I reckon the kid has had more stitches put in his scone per game than even Kirky. There must be a stat on this somewhere. Where is NMW when you need him?

CJK
12th August 2008, 07:14 PM
let's all wet our pants.

Can some of us not?

connolly
12th August 2008, 07:49 PM
Absolutely

Perspective.

Comparing Bevan to Kelly and Matthews?
Really?

Mathews was the luckiest coach to get the most talented mid-field ever to run onto a football ground in modern football. The Collingwood premiership team of 1990 is justifiably rated the worst in living memory. More luck to face probably the worst team ever to play a Grand Final. That match was notorious for a brawl at quarter time provoked by Collingwood in which two teams and team officials threw cut lunches. Essendon never recovered and the thug won that one with usual mix of aggression and physical intimidation.
He is out coached EVERY week without the dazzling array of stars that he had playing at the start of the millenium. His one great claim to fame as far as i'm concerned is that he laid out Demetriou in a final, and for that we all should be eternally grateful. Most over-rated footballer and coach in the history of the game.

connolly
12th August 2008, 07:56 PM
Anyone who thinks Leigh Matthews, as a 4-time premiership coach and 4-time premiership player and premiership captain, was a lucky coach and not a particularly good player, would have to have his views on players questioned.

As a player Mathews would struggle in the modern game. Real greats would star in any era. He would be too slow and his late high hits would see him not play for most of his career for contemporary football. He also played in a very powerful pre-salary cap team. A glorified thug.

CureTheSane
12th August 2008, 08:26 PM
Mathews was the luckiest coach to get the most talented mid-field ever to run onto a football ground in modern football. The Collingwood premiership team of 1990 is justifiably rated the worst in living memory. More luck to face probably the worst team ever to play a Grand Final. That match was notorious for a brawl at quarter time provoked by Collingwood in which two teams and team officials threw cut lunches. Essendon never recovered and the thug won that one with usual mix of aggression and physical intimidation.
He is out coached EVERY week without the dazzling array of stars that he had playing at the start of the millenium. His one great claim to fame as far as i'm concerned is that he laid out Demetriou in a final, and for that we all should be eternally grateful. Most over-rated footballer and coach in the history of the game.


As a player Mathews would struggle in the modern game. Real greats would star in any era. He would be too slow and his late high hits would see him not play for most of his career for contemporary football. He also played in a very powerful pre-salary cap team. A glorified thug.

I think you'll find that 99.9% of football supporters will disagree with you.
Matthews was a champion on any scale.
His achievements as a coach speak for themselves.
One could say that St.Kilda should have won multiple flags with the likes of Winmar, Lowe, Harvery etc etc
The team itself won't win a flag.

But I am not going to try and convince you of anything, as that would appear to be futile.
Believe what you want.

Nico
12th August 2008, 08:31 PM
As a player Mathews would struggle in the modern game. Real greats would star in any era. He would be too slow and his late high hits would see him not play for most of his career for contemporary football. He also played in a very powerful pre-salary cap team. A glorified thug.


Not sure I agree on struggling in the modern game, but agree with the rest. Would have to be one of the greatest thugs of all time and it wasn't just his late high hits, he didn't discriminate, he just belted players unfairly full stop. He clearly had not a scintilla of a concern for his fellow man's welfare. For Sheahan to name him as the greatest of all time shows a complete disregard for or lack of knowledge of the greats who went before and after him.

Mind you there was another Hawthorn player who preceded him who went close, by the name of Kevin Coverdale.

I also reckon that Bevan is as courageous as Kelly. Kelly was hard running, quicker and a different style of player who in most cases was a running forward headlong type courageous footballer, whereas Bevan goes in all directions. Not the most skilful player but right up there in the Courage Stakes.

Skilton leaves them all behind. He would bounce the ball then run headlong into a pack just to win a free.

Jewels
12th August 2008, 08:38 PM
Connolly, you should get yourself to the aftermatch functions in the Noble at the SCG, you have a kindred spirit in Brad Seymour. He confessed the other night that Bevo is just about his favourite player and loves the way he plays.
I thought of you straight away.

hammo
12th August 2008, 08:50 PM
Connolly, you should get yourself to the aftermatch functions in the Noble at the SCG, you have a kindred spirit in Brad Seymour. He confessed the other night that Bevo is just about his favourite player and loves the way he plays.
I thought of you straight away.

Ever seen Brad or Connolly in the same room together?

Nico
12th August 2008, 08:51 PM
I was one who really thought Bevan was the luckiest player to get a game in the GF of 2005 simply on basis that his form was poor. He was very ordinary at the very best in the PF. His form until a few rounds in this year, in my opinion was no better.

But no one in their right mind can question his value to the team this year. At the North match I took my notebook for Bevo watch and put it away at half time after a faultless first half and he has continued on from there. To his credit he has learned to run forward of the game to make space, get a handpass off with plenty of time whereas in the past he had no idea, and I can't recall the last HTB against him. He has reinvented his game and good luck to him. Just hope he keeps it up.

Maybe Bolton looked at his next few games after the Norf game and said gee this bloke is showing me up, I better pull my finger out.

Rob-bloods
12th August 2008, 08:52 PM
Realistically he is probably closest to Jude Bolton and may well succeed him one day. He is tough and not a great disposer but could well play out of the middle as a ball winner and pump the ball forward a la Jude.

ugg
12th August 2008, 10:32 PM
Note for Bevan in teh Mark of the Year comp.

2008 Toyota AFL Mark and Goal of the Year (http://www.afl.com.au/Competitions/MarkGoal/mark.html)

connolly
13th August 2008, 12:16 AM
Thanks for that UGG. I'm voting early and often for Bevo!

Bear
13th August 2008, 12:28 AM
Bevan has some positives:

Tackles hard
Chases hard
Relatively fearless
Gives 100%

Bevan has some negatives (purely from watching him closely live on Sat night):

Kicking skills
Judgement as to whether to go up or stay down in a marking contest
Hesitancy in playing on after taking a mark in clear space
Holding on in tackles long after the player has disposed of the ball
Maintaining both vision of ball location and control of designated opponent in contested ball situations
General lack of confidence in himself and lack of peripheral vision


A lot of these are intricacies of the game that those who haven't played or have come into the game in adulthood may not look for, but they are vital to winning 50/50 contests and hence most games.

I don't care how many couragous marks any player takes running backwards near the end of the game, or what your last memory of a game is, if you cost goals throughout the game because you invariable get beaten in key one-on-one contests, you are a liability.

connolly
13th August 2008, 02:16 AM
Bevan has some positives:

Tackles hard
Chases hard
Relatively fearless
Gives 100%

Bevan has some negatives (purely from watching him closely live on Sat night):

Kicking skills
Judgement as to whether to go up or stay down in a marking contest
Hesitancy in playing on after taking a mark in clear space
Holding on in tackles long after the player has disposed of the ball
Maintaining both vision of ball location and control of designated opponent in contested ball situations
General lack of confidence in himself and lack of peripheral vision


A lot of these are intricacies of the game that those who haven't played or have come into the game in adulthood may not look for, but they are vital to winning 50/50 contests and hence most games.

I don't care how many couragous marks any player takes running backwards near the end of the game, or what your last memory of a game is, if you cost goals throughout the game because you invariable get beaten in key one-on-one contests, you are a liability.

I played the game in primary school. And actually graduated to adulthood. You confuse judgement re. options and skill level. Bevan is a young player who makes, as all young players do, judgement errors. These gradually improve through experience. When was he beaten in a one on one contests invariable this year? No opponent has kicked more than 2 goals or got more than 10 possessions on him FOR A SEASON FFS.

connolly
13th August 2008, 02:23 AM
Skilton leaves them all behind. He would bounce the ball then run headlong into a pack just to win a free.

Agree completely. Bobby Skilton would trounce Mathews both as a human being and a footballer. A truely great sportsman.

connolly
13th August 2008, 02:25 AM
Ever seen Brad or Connolly in the same room together?

No but only because i can't snag an invite to the aftermatch junket.

connolly
13th August 2008, 02:26 AM
Connolly, you should get yourself to the aftermatch functions in the Noble at the SCG, you have a kindred spirit in Brad Seymour. He confessed the other night that Bevo is just about his favourite player and loves the way he plays.
I thought of you straight away.

Seymour was a hard nut himself.

Wardy
13th August 2008, 08:01 AM
No but only because i can't snag an invite to the aftermatch junket.


why ? aren't you a member?? all members with their key ring medalions can get into the after match be it at the MA Noble or the Club at the Cross. and its not a junket - you just have to jostle for a decent spot and get a drink early otherwise the bar is too crowded.

connolly
13th August 2008, 10:59 AM
why ? aren't you a member?? all members with their key ring medalions can get into the after match be it at the MA Noble or the Club at the Cross. and its not a junket - you just have to jostle for a decent spot and get a drink early otherwise the bar is too crowded.

This is getting complicated. Was a family member before the relationship break up. She got the membership. Micky Rooney who was married seven times said his property was always split 50/50. The sheilas always got the inside of the house and he got the outside. She always handled the membership details. Fair dinkum she never told me about the drinks under the grand stand. Feel dudded.

Donners
13th August 2008, 11:03 AM
No opponent has kicked more than 2 goals or got more than 10 possessions on him FOR A SEASON FFS.

That stat is incorrect. Have a look at the Prospectus from this year.

Wardy
13th August 2008, 11:03 AM
This is getting complicated. Was a family member before the relationship break up. She got the membership. Micky Rooney who was married seven times said his property was always split 50/50. The sheilas always got the inside of the house and he got the outside. She always handled the membership details. Fair dinkum she never told me about the drinks under the grand stand. Feel dudded.


ok - fair enough. Well ring the membership dept and get on the list for next year (mind you I dont know if the list will be that long seeins as our numbers have dwindled a bit)

Xie Shan
13th August 2008, 11:04 AM
As a player Mathews would struggle in the modern game.

Finally, a sentence we can all agree with! ;)

Wardy
13th August 2008, 11:08 AM
Finally, a sentence we can all agree with! ;)

:D ;)

Lohengrin
13th August 2008, 11:09 AM
Was a family member before the relationship break up. She got the membership. Micky Rooney who was married seven times said his property was always split 50/50. The sheilas always got the inside of the house and he got the outside. She always handled the membership details. Fair dinkum she never told me about the drinks under the grand stand. Feel dudded.But at least you got Bevo wagon. Do you think maybe though that could have been the source of the problems? After all she would have felt like a third wheel (hmmm... perhaps the Bevo wagon has only 2 wheels - that would explain a lot).

connolly
13th August 2008, 11:14 AM
That stat is incorrect. Have a look at the Prospectus from this year.

Bevan played as Sydney's No.1 stopper in the back half last year, successfully shutting down the likes of Leon Davis, Jeff Farmer, Kayne Pettifer, Aaron Davey and Nathan Buckley. He conceded just 10 disposals per game and only 13 goals in total, and never more than two in a match. Bevan was a member of Sydney's 2005 Premiership team

Ref: AFL - Player Profiles - Yahoo!7 Sport (http://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl/clubs/player/-/200814/160/230010)

If you are going to quote a reference give the link. Protocol old son.

connolly
13th August 2008, 11:20 AM
But at least you got Bevo wagon. Do you think maybe though that could have been the source of the problems? After all she would have felt like a third wheel (hmmm... perhaps the Bevo wagon has only 2 wheels - that would explain a lot).

You may be on to something. She was never very keen on Bevo as a matter of fact. Very impressed with Jude. Davo was probably the only thing we agreed on at the end. Not enough in the house of pain and when the chips were down.

Wardy
13th August 2008, 11:34 AM
You may be on to something. She was never very keen on Bevo as a matter of fact. Very impressed with Jude. Davo was probably the only thing we agreed on at the end. Not enough in the house of pain and when the chips were down.

Hmm - have you sought therapy for this obsession with Bevo? It could prove beneficial later should there be another "she" in your life! Or you have it put in a pre-nup "you will love Bevo or else its not happening".

connolly
13th August 2008, 11:58 AM
Hmm - have you sought therapy for this obsession with Bevo? It could prove beneficial later should there be another "she" in your life! Or you have it put in a pre-nup "you will love Bevo or else its not happening".

I've toyed with giving that speed dating a go. The "Whadda ya think of Bevo" would certainly be up there in the first three questions. Question 2 would be: "Ya got supa" Question one can't be repeated here. But all good points and thanks for the tip.

Donners
13th August 2008, 12:04 PM
Bevan played as Sydney's No.1 stopper in the back half last year, successfully shutting down the likes of Leon Davis, Jeff Farmer, Kayne Pettifer, Aaron Davey and Nathan Buckley. He conceded just 10 disposals per game and only 13 goals in total, and never more than two in a match. Bevan was a member of Sydney's 2005 Premiership team

Ref: AFL - Player Profiles - Yahoo!7 Sport (http://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl/clubs/player/-/200814/160/230010)

If you are going to quote a reference give the link. Protocol old son.

The prospectus is a physical book - rather hard to link to. I think they wrote that line poorly - the 10 possessions is an average, not the maximum you read it as.

Pedantic, but there's no other way to be when it comes to stats...

AnnieH
13th August 2008, 12:05 PM
Bevan played as Sydney's No.1 stopper in the back half last year, successfully shutting down the likes of Leon Davis, Jeff Farmer, Kayne Pettifer, Aaron Davey and Nathan Buckley. He conceded just 10 disposals per game and only 13 goals in total, and never more than two in a match. Bevan was a member of Sydney's 2005 Premiership team

Ref: AFL - Player Profiles - Yahoo!7 Sport (http://au.sports.yahoo.com/afl/clubs/player/-/200814/160/230010)

If you are going to quote a reference give the link. Protocol old son.

Yes, he was a member of the 2005 Premiership team, but did he DO anything??

Wardy
13th August 2008, 12:06 PM
I've toyed with giving that speed dating a go. The "Whadda ya think of Bevo" would certainly be up there in the first three questions. Question 2 would be: "Ya got supa" Question one can't be repeated here. But all good points and thanks for the tip.

Would question one be similar to the lyrics of a particular song which ends with "does your Dad own a brewery?" - hmm I think question 2 should be asked in 6 months time - with the way Superannuation is going at the moment - give it 6 months to recoup any losses - you know it makes sense!

AnnieH
13th August 2008, 12:34 PM
I've toyed with giving that speed dating a go. The "Whadda ya think of Bevo" would certainly be up there in the first three questions. Question 2 would be: "Ya got supa" Question one can't be repeated here. But all good points and thanks for the tip.

I'll go with ya Connolly (for immoral suport).
It would be priceless to see the look on the girlies faces.:)

Wardy
13th August 2008, 12:38 PM
I'll go with ya Connolly (for immoral suport).
It would be priceless to see the look on the girlies faces.:)


I'd pay to see that!!!

connolly
13th August 2008, 06:39 PM
The prospectus is a physical book - rather hard to link to. I think they wrote that line poorly - the 10 possessions is an average, not the maximum you read it as.

Pedantic, but there's no other way to be when it comes to stats...

Fair enough. This site can never have enough pedants.

connolly
13th August 2008, 06:40 PM
Yes, he was a member of the 2005 Premiership team, but did he DO anything??

As Woody Allen said life is 90 per cent showing up.

connolly
13th August 2008, 06:42 PM
Would question one be similar to the lyrics of a particular song which ends with "does your Dad own a brewery?" - hmm I think question 2 should be asked in 6 months time - with the way Superannuation is going at the moment - give it 6 months to recoup any losses - you know it makes sense!

In the autumn years cutting to the chase is very important.

connolly
13th August 2008, 06:44 PM
I'll go with ya Connolly (for immoral suport).
It would be priceless to see the look on the girlies faces.:)

Pretty soon i'll need physical support. They'll be a carers allowance in it for anyone with a bit of time on their hands.

AnnieH
13th August 2008, 09:23 PM
Pretty soon i'll need physical support. They'll be a carers allowance in it for anyone with a bit of time on their hands.

Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha

$90 a week (she says, rubbing her hands together gleefully) ... oooooooooo what will I spend it on?

:)

AussieAnge
13th August 2008, 10:00 PM
Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha

$90 a week (she says, rubbing her hands together gleefully) ... oooooooooo what will I spend it on?

:)

Scotch?

AnnieH
13th August 2008, 10:44 PM
Scotch?

You guys are hilarious tonight!!:)

My scotch (read: "entertainment") bill is way more than $90 a week.;)

dimelb
14th August 2008, 12:00 AM
This club has some strange supporters ... :)

ScottH
14th August 2008, 07:19 AM
This club has some strange supporters ... :)

It takes all types. ;)