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AnnieH
14th December 2009, 09:07 AM
Everyone knows you want to ...

RogueSwan
14th December 2009, 10:09 AM
7
I would like to have given him a higher mark, but he just wasn't as good as the last couple of years.

reigning premier
14th December 2009, 10:48 AM
8.

Bit off to be honest. Another year of hard work that he can be proud of. Just didn't take the opportunities like he needs to as Captain and as part of our midfield to warrant a higher score. Mind you, he's not alone.

BeeEmmAre
14th December 2009, 10:53 AM
I agree he seemed to drop off just a fraction this year, and that's probably only due to his own ridiculously high standards. He remains the the heart and soul of our club and I hope he does so for at least another three years.

7/10

AnnieH
14th December 2009, 11:11 AM
8

Heart and soul.

ernie koala
14th December 2009, 11:29 AM
7 for individual performance ( quite a few average performances)
8 for leadership ( 2 points deducted for buying into the BBBH saga with some unnecessary commentary)

Plugger46
14th December 2009, 11:40 AM
I agree he seemed to drop off just a fraction this year, and that's probably only due to his own ridiculously high standards. He remains the the heart and soul of our club and I hope he does so for at least another three years.

7/10

3 years you reckon? I'm thinking 2010 might be his last season.

Primmy
14th December 2009, 11:49 AM
8 on principle. Hard year, physically and emotionally. Had to control the troops and did. We sometimes forget there are two other captains because Kirky is so relied upon. May be his last year, who knows. But pretty good for an elder. Anyway he was never much chop as a runner, or goal kick, etc. ;) But as a Captain he is not bad.

CJK
14th December 2009, 11:51 AM
8 - good stuff, seen better though.

BeeEmmAre
14th December 2009, 02:45 PM
3 years you reckon? I'm thinking 2010 might be his last season.

I did say hopefully. Remember, he didn't start playing regularly until he was 25, so his age of 33? isn't necessarily that high in football terms. Fingers crossed he can keep on keeping on, because it's going to be a Kell & Magic-like sad day when he goes.

robamiee
14th December 2009, 03:04 PM
7
wasn't quite up to the mark this year.
9 if it was based on his leadership..
As the heart and soul of the club i thought he was in a tough position when it came to Bazza's situation which in no doubt must have been gut wrenching for him and Baz.

I dare say the early season finish we had will hold him and the club in good sted.
After 4-5 years of the type of footy we have played would have taken its toll.

But the guys look fresh in the images we have seen to date

707
14th December 2009, 04:02 PM
Sets very high standards and delivered. A key part of the midfield, watch him organising at the stoppages. Will appreciate the additional help he'll get in midfield this year although 2010 might be his playing Swansong.

2005
14th December 2009, 07:23 PM
7

NO DOUBT THE BARRY HALL SITUATION HAD AND IMPACT ON HIM.

Wasnt his best year , though as many said Heart & Soul and rekon with a few kids around him now it will rub off on him.
Has plenty to offer this year and he will give it his all.
Rekon though this is it for him

BeeEmmAre
18th December 2009, 09:41 PM
Weekly update

Score after 39 voters - 7.97/10 (311/390)

Leaderboard
9.38 -- Swans Recruiters
8.65 -- 5. Ryan O'Keefe
8.29 -- 2. Rhyce Shaw
8.06 -- 19. Michael O'Loughlin
7.97 -- 31. Brett Kirk
7.80 -- 6. Craig Bolton
7.75 -- 24. Jude Bolton
7.61 -- 30. Lewis Roberts-Thomson
7.49 -- 4. Daniel Hannebery
7.24 -- 18. Jesse White
7.22 -- 3. Jarrad McVeigh
7.20 -- 15. Kieren Jack
7.17 -- 16. Darren Jolly
6.26 -- 25. Ted Richards
6.15 -- 14. Craig Bird
5.35 -- 7. Brett Meredith
4.76 -- 21. Leo Barry
4.43 -- 27. Kristin Thornton
4.31 -- 11. Ed Barlow
3.90 -- 1. Barry Hall
3.67 -- 20. Luke Ablett
3.64 -- 13. Patrick Veszpremi
3.19 -- 9. Nick Malceski
1.92 -- 26. Henry Playfair

chuckie
22nd December 2009, 12:02 PM
Towards the end of this year Roos struggled to find a match up for him which resulted in him being on the bench for a fair amount of game time. I think as sad as it would be I think he may pull the plug come the second half of next year. He is to much of a team player to stand in the way of any young kid that was pushing for selection.

Primmy
22nd December 2009, 04:16 PM
Towards the end of this year Roos struggled to find a match up for him which resulted in him being on the bench for a fair amount of game time. I think as sad as it would be I think he may pull the plug come the second half of next year. He is to much of a team player to stand in the way of any young kid that was pushing for selection.

Que???? :confused:

BSA5
22nd December 2009, 04:34 PM
Towards the end of this year Roos struggled to find a match up for him which resulted in him being on the bench for a fair amount of game time. I think as sad as it would be I think he may pull the plug come the second half of next year. He is to much of a team player to stand in the way of any young kid that was pushing for selection.

Kirk spent 83.3% time on ground, only 1.9% down on 2008. There was a similarly small drop from 2007 to 2008. I really don't know where you're getting that from.

Seriously, Kirk looked almost as good as ever last year. I think people are seeing the grey hair and assuming the worst; his performances were almost as good as ever, and he's showing no signs of suddenly dropping. Now, in 2008 O'Loughlin didn't either, so we may see Kirk slowing down dramatically next year, but there's no reason to be prophesying it. For all we know he'll put in another evergreen year, another top 10 B&F performance, and may even go around another year.

Darren Thomson
22nd December 2009, 08:19 PM
I gave him a 9 purely on spirit, which at times seemed to ne lacking in some other players, a couple of which are no longer with us. Holding things together during the Hall fiasco must have been difficult, but Kirky is Kirky, he never was fast on his feet, but he doesn't put his head down, just ove the ball, where it belongs, pure guts and determination could possibly see him play on, and on. Derek Kickett once said, quick between the ears is better than quick in the legs.

Primmy
23rd December 2009, 03:37 PM
I was reluctant to actually say anything to chuckie on his post as I was at a loss to know how to without actually biting head from neck.

However I will say that the old man can hold his head up in the running work, he is only being beated by two others while I was watching, and being trailed by about fifteen others. May not be fast, but he has endurance.

Kirkari
23rd December 2009, 04:30 PM
Towards the end of this year Roos struggled to find a match up for him which resulted in him being on the bench for a fair amount of game time. I think as sad as it would be I think he may pull the plug come the second half of next year. He is to much of a team player to stand in the way of any young kid that was pushing for selection.

Rubbish! He is too much of a team player to allow a player into the Swans side that doesn't deserve to be there. If someone is pushing for selection, I am sure he will offer every encouragement, but also let him know he's going to have to climb over Kirk's bleeding, battered body... and meanwhile put extra pressure on himself to be better, stronger, faster.

Any new player will have to get in the side by being the better player. He's the steel hand inside the velvet glove - not a soft touch.

PS - see my signature...

Chilcott
23rd December 2009, 05:00 PM
Kirk spent 83.3% time on ground, only 1.9% down on 2008. There was a similarly small drop from 2007 to 2008. I really don't know where you're getting that from.

Seriously, Kirk looked almost as good as ever last year. I think people are seeing the grey hair and assuming the worst; his performances were almost as good as ever, and he's showing no signs of suddenly dropping. Now, in 2008 O'Loughlin didn't either, so we may see Kirk slowing down dramatically next year, but there's no reason to be prophesying it. For all we know he'll put in another evergreen year, another top 10 B&F performance, and may even go around another year.

Believe in everything you say BSA5. But also understand where Chuckie is coming from. IMO - There were signs in 2009 that his age and battered body were catching up on him. I hope he has another great season, but it may be his last.

And before anyone responds, note the 'IMO'. This makes me immune from criticism. Cheers.

belladespina
28th December 2009, 01:22 PM
10 simply because he is the heart and soul and i wouldnt want anybody else doing what he does. I can be clinical, but dont want to be - he gives his all and you cannot buy that or quantify it. Go Kirky

Dalai Lama
29th December 2009, 09:07 AM
two incense thumbs up!

TheHood
30th December 2009, 05:28 PM
On his knees, finding the ball and feeding it out in the tightest and toughest of situations is what the Captain does better than anyone, just ask Joel Selwood.

The glue that keeps the midfield structured and high apparently. That is what he does EVEN better than above.

These are the reasons why his departure at season's end will have a devestating effect.

The fragile hold that Kirky had on his other skills is slipping; his kicking is failing him and his lack of speed starts to negate his other unique brilliant qualities.

None of this is his fault, age has caught up with him. This will be a brilliant and sad season ahead!

BeeEmmAre
4th January 2010, 10:21 PM
Weekly update

Score after 56 voters - 8.04/10 (450/560)

Leaderboard
9.41 -- Swans Recruiters
8.66 -- 5. Ryan O'Keefe
8.30 -- 2. Rhyce Shaw
8.04 -- 31. Brett Kirk
8.02 -- 19. Michael O'Loughlin
7.80 -- 6. Craig Bolton
7.74 -- 24. Jude Bolton
7.54 -- 30. Lewis Roberts-Thomson
7.50 -- 4. Dan Hannebery
7.27 -- 18. Jesse White
7.23 -- 3. Jarrad McVeigh
7.21 -- 16. Darren Jolly
7.19 -- 15. Kieren Jack
7.14 -- 29. Marty Mattner
6.35 -- 28. Jared Crouch
6.24 -- 25. Ted Richards
6.14 -- 14. Craig Bird
5.37 -- 7. Brett Meredith
4.70 -- 21. Leo Barry
4.56 -- 27. Kristin Thornton
4.35 -- 11. Ed Barlow
3.90 -- 1. Barry Hall
3.69 -- 20. Luke Ablett
3.66 -- 13. Patrick Veszpremi
3.20 -- 9. Nick Malceski
1.89 -- 26. Henry Playfair