Barry Hall on Open Mike tonight

[ugg]

Barry Hall opens up on Swans exit | AFL - On The Couch | Fox Sports (http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/on-the-couch/self-proclaimed-changed-man-barry-hall-recounts-his-acrimonious-exit-from-the-swans-on-open-mike/story-fn5k2y08-1226624655981)

Reveals an 'altercation' with Longmire as well as the much publicised spat with Roos.

[Melbournehammer]

Barry Hall opens up on Swans exit | AFL - On The Couch | Fox Sports (http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/on-the-couch/self-proclaimed-changed-man-barry-hall-recounts-his-acrimonious-exit-from-the-swans-on-open-mike/story-fn5k2y08-1226624655981)

Reveals an 'altercation' with Longmire as well as the much publicised spat with Roos.

I must say I am struggling to get interested in this. I get the sense it will be one of those documentaries from the 1970s - so dermie who did you punch then ? And you are best of friends now ? And you and Billy Duckworth do this and you and Mark Yeates do that.

He was a very good lead up forward for us and very lucky to have played in a flag. apart from the last quarter highlights all I really remember from that st kilda prelim was the constant whisper amongst swans fans at 1/4 time of fn idiot well he wont play next week - what the hell are we going to do now.

the reality was that we should have traded him at the end of the 08 season to the dogs - they were desperate for a full forward and you could tell that our side was struggling to play with him....we were struggling without him as well but it would have been a win win win.

i'd be surprised if there werent too many of the swans players and coaches from 05-09 who didnt have issues with barry.

[msb]

Yeah this is all boring IMO. We know what happened, we know why he left, we know he has issues with roos, we know he had an altercation with longmire (said so in his book), so why bring it all back up now??? Clearly hall just cant get over this but thats his problem cause im pretty sure the club has. Ill be very interested to see if hall goes to the 05 reunion, im guessing he wont especially as he sees himself as a 'bulldogs' player.

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Seriously, again? Can't the "Dog for life" go and find another bone to pick? Tired of him altogether.

[Triple B]

I must say I am struggling to get interested in this.....


Yeah this is all boring IMO....


Seriously, again? Can't the "Dog for life" go and find another bone to pick? Tired of him altogether.....

So don't watch it.

Me, I'll sit back and watch the show as I do every week, it's a bloody good series and even though I suspect there will be nothing new for anybody that has read the book, I'll probably enjoy it as I always do.

I'm no huge Hall fan nowadays, but doing an Open Mike show is hardly a reason to get stuck into him...

[DeadlyAkkuret]

So don't watch it.



I won't. Is it okay with you if I think he's a dickhead?

[Triple B]

Is it okay with you if I think he's a dickhead?

Of course it is, I think some people are dickheads as well...

[ShockOfHair]

Good old Baz, brings out the best in all of us.

[magic.merkin]

Good old Baz, brings out the best in all of us.
*HEADLOCK*

[Xie Shan]

Poor old Baz. He was a pretty awesome player to watch when he was on. He always did have a short fuse when things didn't go his way and struck me as being rather moody, I don't think the "Bloods culture" ever really changed that (see his brain snap in the preliminary final against the Saints in 2005), just we didn't see that side of him as much when we were winning. He never seemed the same after the 2006 grand final. He still played some good games for us in that period but his heart didn't seem to be in it any more. Was probably the best for both club and player that he moved on.


He also re-visits his childhood, including the relationship with his father who instilled numerous mantras in Hall from an early age that shaped him as a player, including "The only way to stop violence is more violence" and "Never let anyone have anything over you."

Hmm....

Read more: Barry Hall opens up on Swans exit | AFL - On The Couch | Fox Sports (http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/on-the-couch/self-proclaimed-changed-man-barry-hall-recounts-his-acrimonious-exit-from-the-swans-on-open-mike/story-fn5k2y08-1226624655981#ixzz2RANAiH6k)

[ernie koala]

He's a big sook...He never got over his hopeless performance in the 06 GF...

And never got over the Swans tiring of him.

Seems to love talking about himself...I'm guessing as a way of excusing himself for his various hissy fits.

It's always..."Iv'e only got myself to blame, BUT....." Even dragging his father in.

Bye bye Baz.

[Industrial Fan]

I suggested getting rid of Barry much earlier than we did when he had actually currency (but then I would probably have shipped Jude out too). These days I would neither seek out or conscienstiously avoid reading or listing to anything he has to say. Very much a big yawn - I think its time for Barry to move on as he's flogging a dead horse thats already bolted.

Thinking about how I now view Barry and how he behaved on field in his last few years with us, makes me really appreciate the role Sam Reid plays. He is obviously growing into his role, body, etc but he never seems to drop his head when things dont go his way, he keeps presenting and putting in the effort without resorting to flying nun impressions with arms flapping everywhere.

[CJK]

A huge part of how I went from WTF is this joke of a sport to becoming a member.

A joy to watch.

[Dosser]

I suggested getting rid of Barry much earlier than we did when he had actually currency (but then I would probably have shipped Jude out too). These days I would neither seek out or conscienstiously avoid reading or listing to anything he has to say. Very much a big yawn - I think its time for Barry to move on as he's flogging a dead horse thats already bolted.

Thinking about how I now view Barry and how he behaved on field in his last few years with us, makes me really appreciate the role Sam Reid plays. He is obviously growing into his role, body, etc but he never seems to drop his head when things dont go his way, he keeps presenting and putting in the effort without resorting to flying nun impressions with arms flapping everywhere.

Ah, I remember Sally 'Football' Fields...

[CureTheSane]

So don't watch it.

Me, I'll sit back and watch the show as I do every week, it's a bloody good series and even though I suspect there will be nothing new for anybody that has read the book, I'll probably enjoy it as I always do.

I'm no huge Hall fan nowadays, but doing an Open Mike show is hardly a reason to get stuck into him...

It's more about continuously raising these issues publicly.
For me, it lessens my appreciation of him as a premiership captain.

I get that he was/is pissed about being booted out, and have cut him a lot of slack with his various comments about the Swans and Bulldog for life etc.
But if it goes on and on, then I'll just get pissed off with him, and I don't want that.
Let history be, and be remembered as a Swans hero.

[justabaraker]

So, he goes on TV tonight and makes some big statements, and gets some headlines tomorrow. And, you know what happens after that ?????
Wednesday he's off to Wellington to be a presenter on Thursday's historic match against the Saints (on the same channel Seven of course).
So....big statements tonight make him a 'must-see' on Thursday (where he'll no doubt be asked to recycle it all again !), and then he's back to Melbourne and will sell some more copies of his book.

It's called "media", "cross promotion" and "the news cycle"... been like this for years and, guess what, as long as his big head is on tellie making big statements, he is news and is feeding "the hungry beast".

Watch it if it's interesting but remember that we're all being treated like suckers.

[Doctor J.]

Let history be, and be remembered as a Swans hero.

The problem with that CtS is Bazza doesn't want it to be that way. Remember, he's a doggie for life now.

[swanspant12]

My old man and I still piss ourselves everytime we think of Bazza getting someone in a headlock or punching on...:rofl. To be honest though im kind of sick of his agenda against Roosy and now hes gonna talk about his altercation with Horse. Bazza, you got sacked because you were undisciplined, something our club prides itself on, you cost us finals with that spout against the hawks and quite frankly you chose your own destiny. Having said that I absolutely loved watching big bad bazza and miss him at the swannies!

[hot potato]

Ended up watching it, and it was pretty boring. He probably needs another 10 years or more to self assess some the issues. He was contradictory and uncomfortable still .
HP

[CureTheSane]

The problem with that CtS is Bazza doesn't want it to be that way. Remember, he's a doggie for life now.

Yeah that's kind of sad - for us fans.
All he is doing in the long run is tainting the memory of him and therefore to some degree the memory of the GF win.
I doubt the Swans are too worried about what he is saying - he's not really getting to them at all.

It's easy to come out and @@@@ on the swans when you know that they won't bother replying or presenting a different POV
So he's kind of golden there I guess.

[Primmy]

Maybe he is kind of trying to get one of those Kevin Bartlett reputations with the Swans. I'll never step foot in the door, I don't forgive and forget, it wasn't my fault, and all that @@@@. I have spent too much time not knowing whether to hug him or hit him. Over it baz, its about time you move on.

And good points made Cure.

[Industrial Fan]

I wouldnt suggest you hit him.

[Chilcott]

I watched it.

Did you notice the box of Kleenex sitting next to Mike Sheehan. He passed a few to Baz everytime he sooked up about Paul Roos not calling him back.

[Big Al]

I was doing my hair and missed it.

Did he belt Mike and then blame the cameramen for it??

[Plugger46]

I enjoyed it. Probably would've liked to hear more on his actual playing career, rather than the drama but still thought it was good. I have enjoyed most of Mike's interviews.

He gets asked the question and he answers it. Can't see anything wrong with that. It was handled poorly and I think most on here thought that at the time.

Sensational player. Made plenty of blues but also made a huge contribution to our club and that shouldn't be forgotten.

[bloodbrother]

agree totally with your comments, think that hall should have kept his thoughts to himself then swans fans would still have some respect for him..unfortunately like most people here i don't

[magic.merkin]

I enjoyed it. Probably would've liked to hear more on his actual playing career, rather than the drama but still thought it was good. I have enjoyed most of Mike's interviews.

He gets asked the question and he answers it. Can't see anything wrong with that. It was handled poorly and I think most on here thought that at the time.

Sensational player. Made plenty of blues but also made a huge contribution to our club and that shouldn't be forgotten.

Yep I also wanted a bit more info on his moves, his team mates and his ride. Oh well. They always seem too short.

I think Barry can say as he pleases, i think in the end he will come around to being at peace with it all. He seemed to be still grappling with it, as he seemed ad odds with his previous answers, only minutes later. And for what its worth I too would be disappointed in how it was handled, keeping in mind he said he knew he was at fault. He was a asked a question, he answered. Move on. Its a footy club, they all don't need to be best mates, just like us with co-workers. Regardless, i'd hope they can all get to the reunion, have a beer and reminisce.

He's still our premiership captain, excited the hell out of me and frustrated me. A great ride none the less.

[111431]

I enjoyed it. Probably would've liked to hear more on his actual playing career, rather than the drama but still thought it was good. I have enjoyed most of Mike's interviews.

He gets asked the question and he answers it. Can't see anything wrong with that. It was handled poorly and I think most on here thought that at the time.

Sensational player. Made plenty of blues but also made a huge contribution to our club and that shouldn't be forgotten.

A great player who made a significant contribution to the club. His leaving and the way it was handled was very unfortunate for all

[Wardy]

I enjoyed it. Probably would've liked to hear more on his actual playing career, rather than the drama but still thought it was good. I have enjoyed most of Mike's interviews.
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He gets asked the question and he answers it. Can't see anything wrong with that. It was handled poorly and I think most on here thought that at the time.

Sensational player. Made plenty of blues but also made a huge contribution to our club and that shouldn't be forgotten.

spot on - no one in this life is perfect - he was asked questions and he answered them honestly- and I'm no fan of Roos or Kirk (their own self righteousness annoyed the crap out of me) - and the stuff they came out with at the time on tv was innappropriate because he had no come back - and in some ways I know how he feels to hear about your fate on the tv as my neice found out that her husband was sacked from the cronulla sharks on the 5pm news - he was still in the meeting with the now former board and the trout from ASADA at the time - so who leaked it to thd media? ( and it's all a crock - those bloke are being retrospectively punished for actually solving the problem in getting the person of interest removed from the club and the board signed it off after Doc threatened to resign if he didnt go!)So I can understand why he was pissed off- at the same time he has never backed away that it was all his fault - but at the time Roos could have acted with a bit class instead of ignoribg him - so shoot me for thinking and saying it - I really don't give a toss.
Baz also said that the best coach he'd had was Roos - so he cant be all that bad.

[Primmy]

I was glad they showed his circuit of the SCG and the fans. I thought he had dissed us all, but he obviously hasn't. I feel better about that. He drove me mad, wanted to hit him as many times as I wanted to hug him, but the intimation that he had given all of us the flick hurt.

Things were handled badly on every level, and it has taken years for BBB to work some things out for himself. No wonder some of the mob in charge got it wrong. Everyone had reached a breaking point, and I guess confronting BBB at times would have been like arguing with a volcano. Anyway, that's how it is.

I am glad I was able to see this. Kind of like settling the waters.

[magic.merkin]

I'm glad Primmy for you :).

We all get so heavily invested, it's nice to hear from those involved.

I just think that some on here think we are a club of saints (no STKum) off and on the field. We clearly arn't, but are shoulders above the rest in trying :tongue:

[Velour&Ruffles]

I don't care what BBBBH may say now. Fact is that if there was no BBBBH there would be no 2005 premiership. It is easy to forget what a gun he was from 2003 to 2006 - in the top 3 most influential players in the league no doubt, which is something he wasn't when we recruited him from the Saints. I'm hoping that Tippett can produce (and silence the "you paid over the odds"-type critics) in the same way. That goal he kicked in the fourth quarter of the 2005 prelim will be one of the enduring moments of my football life. One of the few things to exceed it is his Q4 goal in the grand final that year. Cometh the moment, cometh the man. As a Swans fan, that was a goal for the ages - and investment repaid with interest at that moment. Let's not get pissy and bitter. He needed to go when he did, the club could have handled it better - wrong on both sides. What remains is that he is in the Swans Pantheon, and its a pretty small group.

[Wardy]

Beautifully said Velour man!!!

[Swansongster]

My old man and I still piss ourselves everytime we think of Bazza getting someone in a headlock or punching on...:rofl. To be honest though im kind of sick of his agenda against Roosy and now hes gonna talk about his altercation with Horse. Bazza, you got sacked because you were undisciplined, something our club prides itself on, you cost us finals with that spout against the hawks and quite frankly you chose your own destiny. Having said that I absolutely loved watching big bad bazza and miss him at the swannies!

A self-indulgent anecdote from me re. that day. It was the first time my 4yo (at the time) boy and 5yo daughter came to a game. The Mrs brought them at 3Q time and came in when they let people in for free (remember that, when they opened the gates at 3QT at the G - they don't allow it any more).

After making my way down from the top deck of the Southern and then back up with the young 'uns to join my other two older daughters, we emerged into the open just as Baz incurred his double 50m march. The roar from the rabid Hawks fans and indignant red and white brigade stunned my young girl senseless and made my little boy burst into tears in fright.

It took some effort to get them back to the footy (but they are both big fans now).

As an aside to Fancy's comment here. I think it is a bit harsh to drop blame for that loss at the feet of Baz alone. It was a very ill-disciplined incident from him which was the turning point of the game but it was also a very poor last quarter from most on the pitch that day wearing red and white.


I don't care what BBBBH may say now. Fact is that if there was no BBBBH there would be no 2005 premiership. It is easy to forget what a gun he was from 2003 to 2006 - in the top 3 most influential players in the league no doubt, which is something he wasn't when we recruited him from the Saints. I'm hoping that Tippett can produce (and silence the "you paid over the odds"-type critics) in the same way. That goal he kicked in the fourth quarter of the 2005 prelim will be one of the enduring moments of my football life. One of the few things to exceed it is his Q4 goal in the grand final that year. Cometh the moment, cometh the man. As a Swans fan, that was a goal for the ages - and investment repaid with interest at that moment. Let's not get pissy and bitter. He needed to go when he did, the club could have handled it better - wrong on both sides. What remains is that he is in the Swans Pantheon, and its a pretty small group.

I agree 100 per cent with this analysis.

It will take more than a little of his personal bitterness to scrub him from my Top 20 all-time favourite Swans. Meanwhile, I actually think BBBH is becoming quite a good commentator and chat show panelist. Some of his recent Fox Footy contributions on AFL 360 and AFL Teams have shown great insight to points of discussion.

[wolftone57]

So, he goes on TV tonight and makes some big statements, and gets some headlines tomorrow. And, you know what happens after that ?????
Wednesday he's off to Wellington to be a presenter on Thursday's historic match against the Saints (on the same channel Seven of course).
So....big statements tonight make him a 'must-see' on Thursday (where he'll no doubt be asked to recycle it all again !), and then he's back to Melbourne and will sell some more copies of his book.

It's called "media", "cross promotion" and "the news cycle"... been like this for years and, guess what, as long as his big head is on tellie making big statements, he is news and is feeding "the hungry beast".

Watch it if it's interesting but remember that we're all being treated like suckers.

It is called a PR stunt to sell books