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neilfws
25th October 2013, 03:13 PM
Goodes reveals extent of injury (http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/goodes-reveals-extent-of-injury-20131025-2w55l.html)

Thought this was an interesting (telling?) quote:


Unfortunately for us, we have lost seven pretty classy players and we have only really gotten ?Buddy? Franklin in the trade period, so we have got to rely pretty heavily on our senior players again

spiffy-dude
25th October 2013, 03:29 PM
Mixed messages there.

This whole buddy deal is starting to @@@@ me, because its creating unnecessary stress on everyone.

If this was such a bad idea, then why did the club who have built up respect and a rep for being awesome list managers, why did they OK it and went along with it? From Goodes POV he seems like he doesnt seem to be happy with it, as much as i am sure he will say otherwise.

Saying we ost 7 classy players and now the old heads have to step up is saying that the club has sold us short and now we have to rely on has beens. And 7 classy players? Sure maybe Lamb..but the others wernt classy.

Hmm i am at my wits end, i really am thinking of giving this code away. Since the end of the grand final the enjoyment of being a fan has been diminished by:

a) constant unneeded attacks on our club from people who dont have any idea on how the swans are run
b) contant trolling from the melbourne media who are just rehashing stories and brain washing victorian fans with half truths and mass hyperbole. These stupid fans don't want to know facts..they want to hear that we are the lowest of the low, they want their suspicions confirmed or answered, even if its just lies.
c) Just the childish behaviour of all AFL fans online and IRL. On Facebook and Bigdooty its just been one big over reaction and its been pathetic. Grown men acting like 6 year old boys on talk back radio.
d) Bloody trade period. In the past its been 1 week..but not anymore..the AFL to keep this stupid game in the news all the time have perssisted with a very long and boring trade period.

I am mentally exhuasted tbh.

Meg
25th October 2013, 03:34 PM
Mixed messages there.

This whole buddy deal is starting to @@@@ me, because its creating unnecessary stress on everyone.

If this was such a bad idea, then why did the club who have built up respect and a rep for being awesome list managers, why did they OK it and went along with it? From Goodes POV he seems like he doesnt seem to be happy with it, as much as i am sure he will say otherwise.

Saying we ost 7 classy players and now the old heads have to step up is saying that the club has sold us short and now we have to rely on has beens. And 7 classy players? Sure maybe Lamb..but the others wernt classy.

Hmm i am at my wits end, i really am thinking of giving this code away. Since the end of the grand final the enjoyment of being a fan has been diminished by:

a) constant unneeded attacks on our club from people who dont have any idea on how the swans are run
b) contant trolling from the melbourne media who are just rehashing stories and brain washing victorian fans with half truths and mass hyperbole. These stupid fans don't want to know facts..they want to hear that we are the lowest of the low, they want their suspicions confirmed or answered, even if its just lies.
c) Just the childish behaviour of all AFL fans online and IRL. On Facebook and Bigdooty its just been one big over reaction and its been pathetic. Grown men acting like 6 year old boys on talk back radio.
d) Bloody trade period. In the past its been 1 week..but not anymore..the AFL to keep this stupid game in the news all the time have perssisted with a very long and boring trade period.

I am mentally exhuasted tbh.

Hey, cheer up, just follow the cricket for the next few months. Plenty of new things to worry/complain/ fight about there!

Xie Shan
25th October 2013, 03:35 PM
There is a lot of noise and misinformation out there which is annoying to read (even more so considering some of it comes from supposedly 'knowledgeable' journos) but you just have to shut it out, to me this is still the best sport out there. This is always the worst time of the year for a footy fan.

Jewels
25th October 2013, 03:38 PM
Hey, cheer up, just follow the cricket for the next few months. Plenty of new things to worry/complain/ fight about there!

Haha brilliant Meg!

Oh and Spiffy, best thing to do is just not bother reading bigfooty or any negative press, that's how I cope after a crappy lose.

spiffy-dude
25th October 2013, 03:48 PM
Haha brilliant Meg!

Oh and Spiffy, best thing to do is just not bother reading bigfooty or any negative press, that's how I cope after a crappy lose.

Yeah i just need to ignore news and stay away from bigfooty. How the hell has no one ever sued the pants out of bigfooty is beyond me!

wolftone57
25th October 2013, 03:48 PM
Adam is quite right we have lost depth players and a couple who had real talent. But it may not all be a loss if we can nab young Garlett from Swan Districts, he is a genuine talent. He would balance the talls and he is a natural crumber and kicked 46 goals this year. The trouble is going to be keeping players after a couple of years and maybe premierships if we get them. Salary cap is out enemy at the moment and losing COLA is going to make it tougher.

Is the Buddy move a GREAT ONE? Not so certain.

Yes he is a sensational player
Yes the forward line will be awesome with him, Tip, Reid & Goodes
Yes other sides will find it hard to combat
Yes we may pick up some real talent, against all odds, in the National draft
No we won't have the depth to cover injuries like we experienced this year
No most of the new talent will not be ready to play AFL
No the other players might not see this as a a totally positive move for them

So getting Buddy is a catch 22. Big gains offset by big losses.

The other problem is the rumour of Buddy's love of a party. They may be just that but...

Meg
25th October 2013, 04:01 PM
A couple more for Wolftones 'Yes' list following Buddy recruitment:

Yes, we will get increased membership, media coverage, crowd numbers, sponsorship, revenue.

Yes, increased revenue will provide improved financial security in the difficult Sydney AFL market, more to spend on our footy department and make us more competitive with the wealthier Vic clubs.

Legs Akimbo
25th October 2013, 04:05 PM
I can't helping thinking that a lot of the players are really pissed off about the way it was done. Goodes doesn't exactly sound over the moon about Franklin. I liked it when things were so much simpler. Damn you free agency.

Auntie.Gerald
25th October 2013, 04:08 PM
Goodes reveals extent of injury (http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/goodes-reveals-extent-of-injury-20131025-2w55l.html)

Thought this was an interesting (telling?) quote:

typical Swans saying everyone else has great formidable lineups or we just have to rely on our senior players

we are the best at the underdog spin !!

Parker, AJ, Birdy, Rohan, BJ, Rampe, Mitchell, Smithy are ready steady GO !!!!!!!

Blood Tunnel
25th October 2013, 04:27 PM
Mixed messages there.

This whole buddy deal is starting to @@@@ me, because its creating unnecessary stress on everyone.

If this was such a bad idea, then why did the club who have built up respect and a rep for being awesome list managers, why did they OK it and went along with it? From Goodes POV he seems like he doesnt seem to be happy with it, as much as i am sure he will say otherwise.

Saying we ost 7 classy players and now the old heads have to step up is saying that the club has sold us short and now we have to rely on has beens. And 7 classy players? Sure maybe Lamb..but the others wernt classy.

Hmm i am at my wits end, i really am thinking of giving this code away. Since the end of the grand final the enjoyment of being a fan has been diminished by:

a) constant unneeded attacks on our club from people who dont have any idea on how the swans are run
b) contant trolling from the melbourne media who are just rehashing stories and brain washing victorian fans with half truths and mass hyperbole. These stupid fans don't want to know facts..they want to hear that we are the lowest of the low, they want their suspicions confirmed or answered, even if its just lies.
c) Just the childish behaviour of all AFL fans online and IRL. On Facebook and Bigdooty its just been one big over reaction and its been pathetic. Grown men acting like 6 year old boys on talk back radio.
d) Bloody trade period. In the past its been 1 week..but not anymore..the AFL to keep this stupid game in the news all the time have perssisted with a very long and boring trade period.

I am mentally exhuasted tbh.

We'll see you again after our next p'ship!

Meg
25th October 2013, 04:36 PM
I can't helping thinking that a lot of the players are really pissed off about the way it was done. Goodes doesn't exactly sound over the moon about Franklin. I liked it when things were so much simpler. Damn you free agency.

The breaks in the logical flow of the quotes in that article suggest there have been sentences left out from what Goodes said. I would not be concerned about Goodes' attitude to Franklin's recruitment.

spiffy-dude
25th October 2013, 04:38 PM
Are you saying that a journo completly took out of context what someone said and then manipulated it to get the desired outcome? An australian newspaper engaging in that sort of muck racking behaviour?

I am shocked! :0

Legs Akimbo
25th October 2013, 05:02 PM
Fair enough Meg. Think I'm starting to see glasses half full. Time for a beer.

neilfws
25th October 2013, 07:52 PM
we are the best at the underdog spin !!

True, but not sure that will wash any more now that our team has Goodes, Tippett and Franklin :)

Re-reading the article, agree that it does sound like a lot of selective quoting.

liz
25th October 2013, 11:43 PM
The breaks in the logical flow of the quotes in that article suggest there have been sentences left out from what Goodes said. I would not be concerned about Goodes' attitude to Franklin's recruitment.

Try this one for size.

Goodes' new Buddy keeps flag window open - AFL.com.au (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-25/buddy-has-goodes-buzzing)

Dosser
26th October 2013, 08:52 AM
I love the "Franklin was lured to the Harbour City" quote in the AFL article. Even they prefer to spin instead of use facts.

mcs
26th October 2013, 01:05 PM
I seriously hate the media during the offseason. Such a load of bollocks from them at the best of times.

I don't know whether the Buddy move will prove to be good bad or plain ugly. But I do know that if it turns out well, I have little doubt we will go awfully close to adding to our collection of Premierships over the next few seasons, and I can not wait for next season to come around. Wherever the ride takes us, its going to be a lot of fun to say the least!

And despite losing young players, despite losing some depth - just think of this. A potential forward line of Franklin, Tippett, Reid, Goodes - plus a couple of extras (Rohan/resting Pyke). Just tell me who is going to keep a forward line of those 4 under control if we can break even in the middle of the ground? We will have the potential arsenal up forward, to on our day, blow any team off the park. You might keep 2 of them under control, even three, but teams will have to be awesome to keep all 4 under control. There will be a lot of 3rd/4th tall defenders for teams having very bad nightmares over the summer thinking about their next game against the Swans!

I for one can't wait to see how 2014 and beyond shapes up!:smile:

spiffy-dude
26th October 2013, 01:29 PM
Yeah but we lost Dre and everyones favorite, White.

I mean those two guys were the core..

i'll just shut up.

liz
26th October 2013, 01:36 PM
I am most excited about watching Goodes and Buddy run around on the same team next year. Fingers crossed that Goodes can recover well from his recent knee issues and eke a couple more years out of his body. He's been used to having a hard tag for much of his career. Buddy's arrival might just free him up so he can have fun running around and doing what he does best.

aardvark
26th October 2013, 01:39 PM
Whether we like it or not Journos are there to sell papers not to tell the truth. Losing White, Everitt, Mummy and Lamb will not stop us being a huge premiership chance. Only injuries will do that. We can replace all of them.