Round 7: Sydney Swans Reserves v UWS Giants

[ugg]

NEAFL 2014 Round 7

Sydney Swans Reserves v UWS Giants

Friday 9th May 2014 4:10pm
ANZ Stadium

The second of four clashes between these two teams; the Swans going down valiantly against a strong Giants outfit 4 weeks ago. The tables seemed to have turned here with the Swans naming their strongest side not only this year, but probably for the last few years, and the Giants having a few injured senior players will be weaker.

Both teams are in good form and in strong positions on the NEAFL ladder.

NEAFL Ladder
Position|Team|Played|Wins|Losses|Draws|FF|For|Agai nst|Percentage|Points
1|NT Thunder|6|6|0|0|0|648|391|165.73%|24
2|Sydney Swans|5|4|1|0|0|516|232|222.41%|16
3|UWS Giants|5|4|1|0|0|513|311|164.95%|16
4|Southport|6|4|2|0|0|554|355|156.06%|16
5|Redland|5|4|1|0|0|499|364|137.09%|16
6|Aspley|6|3|3|0|0|588|402|146.27%|12
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7|Sydney University|5|3|2|0|0|435|351|123.93%|12
8|Ainslie|5|2|3|0|0|502|489|102.66%|8
9|Brisbane Lions|5|2|3|0|0|367|417|88.01%|8
10|Queanbeyan|5|2|3|0|0|375|524|71.56%|8
11|Sydney Hills Eagles|6|1|5|0|0|439|663|66.21%|4
12|Eastlake|4|1|3|0|0|217|457|47.48%|4
13|Belconnen|5|1|4|0|0|269|607|44.32%|4
14|Gold Coast Suns|6|0|6|0|0|318|677|46.97%|0



Recent Form
Reserves
Round|Team|Venue|Result|F|A
R1|Brisbane Lions|Away|WIN|89|35|
R2|UWS Giants|Away|LOSS|78|86|
R3|Queanbeyan|Home|WIN|167|30|
R4|Gold Coast Suns|Home|WIN|131|31|
R5|Brisbane Lions|Away|WIN|51|50|
R6|BYE|


UWS Giants
Round|Team|Venue|Result|F|A
R1|NT Thunder|Away|LOSS|69|95|
R2|Sydney Swans|Home|WIN|86|78|
R3|Belconnen|Away|WIN|128|17|
R4|BYE|
R5|Gold Coast Suns|Away|WIN|122|62|
R6|Ainslie|Home|WIN|108|59|


Past Meetings
2014
R1 UWS Giants 11.20 (86) defeated Reserves 12.6 (78) @ Spotless Stadium

Goals: Hiscox 3, Membrey 2, Nankervis 2, P.Mitchell, Lloyd, B.Jack, McCaffrey, Hewett
Best: N/A

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2013
R2 UWS Giants 14.18 (102) defeated by Reserves 17.5 (107) @ ANZ Stadium

Goals: Morton 3, Membrey 3, Everitt 3, Weir, Jack, Head, Lloyd, White, Cunningham, Brown, Lamb
Best: Everitt, Bird, White, Morton, Lloyd, Cunningham

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R8 UWS Giants 11.12 (78) defeated by Reserves 19.13 (127) @ Blacktown International Sportspark

Goals: Membrey 5, Morton 3, Everitt 3, Walsh 2, Lloyd, Robinson, Mitchell, Wray, Kilpatrick, Brown
Best: Walsh, Everitt, Biggs, Membrey, Lloyd, Mitchell

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R17 Reserves 12.7 (79) defeated by UWS Giants 21.16 (142) ANZ Stadium

Goals: Towers 3, Rohan 2, Lloyd 2, Cox, Kiel, Dick, Cunningham, Green
Best: Robinson, Lloyd, Perris, Head

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R21 Reserves 15.20 (110) defeated UWS Giants 6.9 (45) @ ANZ Stadium

Goals: Towers 3, Rohan 2, Membrey 2, Cox 2, Plug, Lloyd, Cunningham, Armstrong, Jaffer-Williams, Head
Best: Biggs, Brown, Lockyer, Lloyd, Cunningham, Richards

Last Round
Brisbane Lions 6.14 (50) defeated by Reserves 7.9 (51) @ Harrup Park

Goals: Membrey 3, Robinson 2, Towers, Davis
Best: T.Mitchell, Membrey, Foote, Robinson, Nankervis, Marsh

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UWS Giants 16.12 (108) defeated Ainslie 9.5 (59) @ Startrack Oval

Goals: Sumner 3, Lobb 3, Stewart 3, Addison 2, Townsend, Reid, Boyd, Whitfield, Johns
Best: Barrett, Lobb, Sumner, Plowman, Townsend, Addison


Team List
Listed players
#|Name|Games|Goals|Votes|Notes
1|Tim MEMBREY|5|17|11|
5|Ryan O'KEEFE|1|0|0|
6|Tom MITCHELL|1|0|6|
10|Zak JONES|4|0|4|
13|Toby NANKERVIS|4|6|8|
16|Gary ROHAN|2|0|0|
17|Tommy WALSH|0|0|0|
18|Jordan LOCKYER|5|0|0|
22|Dean TOWERS|4|2|5|(senior emergency)
27|Daniel ROBINSON|5|5|7|
28|Matthew DICK|5|2|8|
29|George HEWETT|5|2|0|
30|Lewis ROBERTS-THOMSON|0|0|0|(senior emergency)
31|Harrison MARSH|5|7|5|
33|Brandon JACK|3|1|0|(senior emergency)
36|Aliir ALIIR|5|1|1|
41|Lloyd PERRIS|5|3|0|
42|Xavier RICHARDS|5|0|0|
45|Patrick MITCHELL|5|2|0|
46|Shane BIGGS|5|0|7|

Changes
In: Jones, Walsh, Roberts-Thomson, Jack
Out:

20 listed players is as strong a lineup as I can recall in recent memory.

Tommy Walsh makes a welcome return after severely tearing his hamstring in Round 10 of the NEAFL last year. He will probably be eased into the game as a second half 'substitute' for the emergency being taken off as a precautionary measure for the seniors. And assuming both he and LRT play forward, that might free up Towers to play more of a flanker's role. Jones returns after traveling to Melbourne 2 weeks ago as the traveling emergency.

Academy Players/Topups
#|Name|Games|Goals|Votes|Notes
52|James DUNN|1|0|0|
60|Thomas HEAD|2|1|0|


In: Dunn
Out: Abe DAVIS, Jordan FOOTE, Doug HADDEN, Jordan HISCOX, Matt VIVIC

20 listed players means only 2 topups are required. It's great timing as the best of the topups will be playing for the NSW/ACT Rams in the TAC Cup (this also applies to the UWS topups too). Dunn and Head are 'old heads' for the ressies.

Reserves leading goalkickers


Tim Membrey 17
Jack Hiscox 8
Harrison Marsh 7


For full list: 2014 Goalkickers - RWOwiki (http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/wiki/index.php/2014_Goalkickers)

Reserves leading votegetters


Tim Membrey 11
Matt Dick, Toby Nankervis 8
Shane Biggs, Daniel Robinson 7


For full list: 2014 Best Votes - RWOwiki (http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/wiki/index.php/2014_Best_votes)

Reserves leading disposals (avg)


Craig Bird 47.0
Daniel Robinson 32.8
Jake Lloyd 32.3


For full list: 2014 Reserves Stats (http://www.redandwhiteonline.com/?pageid=rstats&rnd=Average&sby=p&year=2014)


UWS Giants (listed players in bold)
|||
B:|30. Lachie PLOWMAN|39. Tim MOHR|33. A. NOLAN
HB:|14. Tomas BUGG|25. Cam McCARTHY|50. Sam REID
C:|45. Sam SCHULZ|15. Tim GOLDS|29. Zac WILLIAMS
HF:|46. Dylan ADDISON|34. Kristian JAKSCH|43. Jake BARRETT
F:|31. Jacob TOWNSEND|36. James STEWART|28. Liam SUMNER
Foll:|37. Rory LOBB|42. Mark WHILEY|24. Jono O'ROURKE
Int:|49. T. BARRETT|54. J. IRVINE|53. A. JOHNSTON
|51. B. McNIECE|


In: T.Barrett, Irvine, Johnstone, McNiece, Mohr, Nolan, O'Rourke, Schulz
Out: Tom BOYD, Aidan CORR, Lachlan HAYRES, Zac JOHNS, Andrew PHILLIPS, Darcy SPINKS, Lachie WHITFIELD, Nathan WILSON

16 listed players (but arguably 17 with Sam Reid who retired from AFL last year but is serving as a playing assistant coach).

The first meeting with the Giants saw our cross town rivals line up with 3 ruckmen Downie, Phillips and Lobb and Tom Boyd who also rucked in that game. Today they'll only have Lobb to call upon with Stewart to provide a chop out.

Whiley and Jake Barrett have been their prolific ball winners in the past two weeks, and in Whiley's case in particular is very unlucky not to be in their senior side. Mohr makes his first appearance of the year while Plowman played on Membrey in Round 2 and won their matchup convincingly. Jaksch and McCarthy both have the ability to play forward or back so it wouldn't surprise if they appeared at either end of the ground.

[wolftone57]

Great preview Ugg. Thank you. Looking forward to this game for the revenge factor. They pipped us earlier this season and time to give it back, hopefully in the form of a big win. So many senior players in this team wow.

[707]

I like games against the other strong sides as it gives an indication of who is up to senior standard.

UWS have the usual load of high draft choices playing, a 2, 3, 10, 12, 14, 27 29 plus a few 17yo selections who would have been high choices the following year. Gee, even we have a 6, 15, 22 this week!

Looking forward to seeing how Jones, Nankervis and Hewett in particular go. In game reports much appreciated.

[liz]

I was wondering if GWS would play Cameron in their reserves side, given that the reason he's said not to be playing in the senior side is because he can't fly at the moment (after an ear operation). Obviously they've decided he's better off having a rest than terrorising X or Aliir.

[Swansongster]

That is a strong team we have in this week for the Magoos.

[ugg]

This is the first time the much talked-about forward line of 4 talls: LRT-Nankervis-Walsh-Membrey will be playing together!

[liz]

This is the first time the much talked-about forward line of 4 talls: LRT-Nankervis-Walsh-Membrey will be playing together!

Nice intertextuality!

[BobLog]

What's the story on O'Keefe? Where's he at? Not much info about his inj/omission here in Melbourne.

[ScottH]

Hope Walsh gets a decent run.

[wolftone57]

Very good Ugg.

[ugg]

What's the story on O'Keefe? Where's he at? Not much info about his inj/omission here in Melbourne.
Sadly I think he's very much just back up at the moment in case one of our inside mids gets injured or suspended, and even then you would think Tom Mitchell would be first off the rank.

[Matt80]

Sadly I think he's very much just back up at the moment in case one of our inside mids gets injured or suspended, and even then you would think Tom Mitchell would be first off the rank.


You would think at this stage, that the following players who are midfield/flanker/forward types would come back into the seniors ahead of ROK.

- Tom Mitchell
- Brandon Jack
- Garry Rohan
- Dene Towers

[dimelb]

Thanks ugg, excellent work as always.
And what a powerful looking team - I hope they wipe the floor with the enemy! And terrific to see Tommy Walsh back on the park; there's still hope for the future.

[ugg]

You would think at this stage, that the following players who are midfield/flanker/forward types would come back into the seniors ahead of ROK.

- Tom Mitchell
- Brandon Jack
- Garry Rohan
- Dene Towers

If we're talking about a purely inside midfield role, which I was, then only Mitchell would work in that situation.

[aardvark]

Nice intertextuality!

Gawd the things you learn on RWO! Have you been waiting a while to use that one Liz?:smile:


Intertextuality is the shaping of a text's meaning by another text. Intertextual figures include: allusion, quotation, calque, plagiarism, translation, pastiche and ...

[ugg]

I was going for calque! Glad I nailed it.

[Meg]

Thanks Ugg, great info as always. One minor point - Tommy Walsh tore his hamstring off the bone against Essendon in round 10 last year playing for the seniors (not NEAFL ). It was at the SCG and it was horrible to watch. He was playing very well at the time which made it even sadder for him as he had battled to get a spot at senior level. So I hope he has a great match in the reserves today, it has been a long and undoubtedly painful rehabilitation.

[ugg]

Thanks Ugg, great info as always. One minor point - Tommy Walsh tore his hamstring off the bone against Essendon in round 10 last year playing for the seniors (not NEAFL ). It was at the SCG and it was horrible to watch. He was playing very well at the time which made it even sadder for him as he had battled to get a spot at senior level. So I hope he has a great match in the reserves today, it has been a long and undoubtedly painful rehabilitation.
Ah yes, thanks. I mixed it up with a shoulder injury he suffered in the NEAFL.

[liz]

Gawd the things you learn on RWO! Have you been waiting a while to use that one Liz?:smile:


Intertextuality is the shaping of a text's meaning by another text. Intertextual figures include: allusion, quotation, calque, plagiarism, translation, pastiche and ...

I am actually sitting at home writing (or trying) to write an essay due on Sunday for an Open University course I am doing on English Literature. This is the first time I have formally studied literature since age 16 (a long time ago!) and my head is swimming with all the various technical terms that academics come up with to discuss literature. Intertexuality is a rather pervasive one! So when I read Ugg's reference (as a form of procrastination from essay research) it was an immediate response...

[Matt80]

Has a Swans senior player or rookie listed player ever been dropped from the Swans Reserves in favour of a top up player?

Could a top up player like Jack Hilscox win the reserves B and F due to the movement of players between the seniors and reserves?

[Dosser]

I am actually sitting at home writing (or trying) to write an essay due on Sunday for an Open University course I am doing on English Literature. This is the first time I have formally studied literature since age 16 (a long time ago!) and my head is swimming with all the various technical terms that academics come up with to discuss literature. Intertexuality is a rather pervasive one! So when I read Ugg's reference (as a form of procrastination from essay research) it was an immediate response...

Hi Liz, is it ok if I get you write my reports for work, please? I am sure to earn brownie points for use of correct grammar as well as come across all erudite sort of thing.

[Triple B]

Could a top up player like Jack Hilscox win the reserves B and F due to the movement of players between the seniors and reserves?

Andrew Bomford won the '96 reserves B&F as a supplementary player. Won it by a street as well, in a side which lost a prelim by a kick or two and was CLEARLY one of the best two ressies side of the year, along with Norf.

[ugg]

I don't think there's a Reserves B&F anymore. Not officially anyway.

[stellation]

Has a Swans senior player or rookie listed player ever been dropped from the Swans Reserves in favour of a top up player?

I can't see why we would ever do that.

[Matt80]

I can't see why we would ever do that.

Maybe Dane Rampe as a top up player in 2012 was a better player than those senior players or rookie players who were delisted or traded out at the end of 2012.

My above statement had proved to be true!

There could be more Rampe's out there who are better players than some on our senior list!

[Swanny40519]

Half time Swans 5.7 UWS 3.2. All the emergencies for the seniors are playing so no change at this stage.

[707]

How's the weather and ground conditions?

[Reggi]

Andrew Bomford won the '96 reserves B&F as a supplementary player. Won it by a street as well, in a side which lost a prelim by a kick or two and was CLEARLY one of the best two ressies side of the year, along with Norf.
Ended badly

[ShockOfHair]

A nice salute to Jake Lloyd's elevation to the firsts:
Another unknown Swan comes to the fore - AFL.com.au (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-05-09/plucked-from-obscurity)

It's kind of bizarre that his mentor is ROK.

[Swanny40519]

Weather is great. No wind and mild temps. Ground looks ok with the reserve players running ok and don't appear to have any problems handling the dodgy turf.

[Swanny40519]

3/4 Swans 7.10 UWS 3.7. Aliir Aliir playing well so is Nankervis Jones O'keefe.

[liz]

If the seniors have been drinking from the same well this week as the reserves, they stand a decent chance tonight. That was a committed and cohesive team performance, one that made it hard to identify the best performers.

[Meg]

Wow amazing result by reserves. Was 14.6 to 3.7 the final score? No goals kicked by opposition after 1st qu?

[Swanny40519]

They took the score down very quickly I think it was 14.17 to 3.7. They didn't kick a goal after Q1. Lot of good players. Membrey kicked 4 and is a very good kick. O'keefe Mitchell were starting in the centre and gained lots of possessions.

[ugg]

Full time @swansreserves 14.16 (100) UWS 3.7 (25). Goals: Membrey 4 Towers 2 LRT 2 Perris 2 Nankervis Robinson Hewett Head

[707]

Big win against good opposition, thanks for the updates and looking forward to a full report. Depth developing nicely it seems.

[stellation]

That really is a thumping of a pretty good (on paper) GWS side.

[ugg]

Goal Kickers: T. Membrey 4, D. Towers 2, L. Roberts-Thomson 2, L. Perris 2, T. Nankervis , G. Hewett , D. Robinson , T. Head
Best Players: M. Dick, T. Membrey, T. Nankervis, D. Robinson, Z. Jones, H. Marsh

[Gezball]

Goal Kickers: T. Membrey 4, D. Towers 2, L. Roberts-Thomson 2, L. Perris 2, T. Nankervis , G. Hewett , D. Robinson , T. Head
Best Players: M. Dick, T. Membrey, T. Nankervis, D. Robinson, Z. Jones, H. Marsh

Okeefe and Rohan not in the best players.. Particularly worried about Rohan in this regard... It's very intertexual.

[Matimbo]

How did Tom Mitchell go? Really wanting him to regain form and force his way back into the seniors.

[liz]

Okeefe and Rohan not in the best players.. Particularly worried about Rohan in this regard... It's very intertexual.

Not sure you've quite got the hang of 'intertextual' yet...

I wouldn't pay too much attention to that list of best players. I posted earlier in this thread that it was almost impossible to pick the best players because it was really just a good team effort. But I wouldn't have picked out Dick as one to highlight. He did some decent things but was less prominent (to me) than many others.

I would have picked out Rohan as one of the better players. He played off half-back and was lively. He showed he knows how to use his pace to attack the free ball spilling out of the defensive 50, and provided good drive forwards. It is a good position for him, probably one that better uses his talents than the forward line. Our half-back line will need to replenish itself in the near future with Shaw coming close to the end, and Malceski maybe with only a year or two left in him, given age and his knee history.

ROK was a good solid body around the contest. Got a lot of possessions, used it pretty well. Nothing outstanding to suggest he's about to regain his senior spot but solid. He's almost certainly being marked against a different set of criteria when it comes to being named amongst the best.

Nankervis and Membrey are two on that list who I do think deserve to be there. They've each had more dominant games but, still, were very valuable contributors. Membrey, in particular, becoming a more rounded player, with his work rate and defensive pressure.

Those who've never seen a reserves game should try and get along to see one from time to time, especially one against an AFL reserves side, where the pressure and structures are slightly more AFL like than against the Canberra sides. It gives you a real sense of the style that the senior team is trying to implement, with quick swarming ball movement between the 50m arcs. It comes unstuck at times, both at senior and reserves level - but slightly less often at reserves level as the opposition pressure isn't at the same level.

[ernie koala]

Liz or Ugg, how did Tom Mitchell go?

[O'Reilly Boy]

I'll second Liz's comments above. I got to the stadium early and really enjoyed watching the twos. It is particularly good hearing the on-field voices. Rohan looked good off half back flank, moving well until he started cramping, and offering plenty up the wings. ROK looked solid, falling back as spare across HB and was the dominant voice, positioning the rest of the team. It was great watching him and LRT mentoring the rest of team. Mitchell seemed switched on, and there are a couple of huge units rumbling around: Patrick Mitchell and Nankervis are immense.

[liz]

Yep, agree with O'RB's comment re Mitchell - both Mitchell comments. But Tommy looked good. I didn't take much notice of how much inside (especially centre bounce) work he did, but in a little space, he found a decent amount of the ball and there was no obvious sign of an ankle hindering him. I don't suppose it will be long before he's back in the senior side, notwithstanding the fact Lloyd is doing a reasonable job in what is probably Tommy's spot.

[ShockOfHair]

Well done Reserves and Ugg.

Pretty amazing that Tom Mitchell can't get a game in the As for now. I saw Longmire talking last week about the need to build up midfield depth after last year's experience when the mids carried a heavy load because of the injuries to forwards.

[Gezball]

Not sure you've quite got the hang of 'intertextual' yet...

I wouldn't pay too much attention to that list of best players. I posted earlier in this thread that it was almost impossible to pick the best players because it was really just a good team effort. But I wouldn't have picked out Dick as one to highlight. He did some decent things but was less prominent (to me) than many others.

I would have picked out Rohan as one of the better players. He played off half-back and was lively. He showed he knows how to use his pace to attack the free ball spilling out of the defensive 50, and provided good drive forwards. It is a good position for him, probably one that better uses his talents than the forward line. Our half-back line will need to replenish itself in the near future with Shaw coming close to the end, and Malceski maybe with only a year or two left in him, given age and his knee history.

ROK was a good solid body around the contest. Got a lot of possessions, used it pretty well. Nothing outstanding to suggest he's about to regain his senior spot but solid. He's almost certainly being marked against a different set of criteria when it comes to being named amongst the best.

Nankervis and Membrey are two on that list who I do think deserve to be there. They've each had more dominant games but, still, were very valuable contributors. Membrey, in particular, becoming a more rounded player, with his work rate and defensive pressure.

Those who've never seen a reserves game should try and get along to see one from time to time, especially one against an AFL reserves side, where the pressure and structures are slightly more AFL like than against the Canberra sides. It gives you a real sense of the style that the senior team is trying to implement, with quick swarming ball movement between the 50m arcs. It comes unstuck at times, both at senior and reserves level - but slightly less often at reserves level as the opposition pressure isn't at the same level.

Thanks Liz. Great description beyond what you get from the simple best list. Much appreciated in particular for us Melbourne based followers who never get to see the reserves.

Ps. I was trying to make a joke with my intertextual reference. Seemed funny at 5am when I wrote it, not so much when I woke up!

[ugg]

You can get stats off the Footy Live App (not the official AFL Live app just to be confusing)

ROK 36 touches 6 marks 7 tackles
T.MItchell 20 touches 1 mark 7 tackles

which is a greater discrepancy than i was expecting. But for these two it's not about their form, but looks like they'll have to bide their time and wait for an opportunity.

Nankervis was the one that really stood out for me, not just his ruckwork but his agility and work around the ground too.

[dimelb]

Thank you ugg, liz and others who have commented. Always appreciated down here, as Gezball says. I'm very pleased Horse is determined to develop depth in the midfield; I think in the contemporary game that's where you are sunk without it.

And go the big Nanny! And the Big Mitch.

[Primmy]

I was watching ROK (and every time he got the ball, the barrage of Peb Peb Peb went up, its a good call name) and thought to myself, here's another Brett Alison/Jared Crouch. He was coaching the team like mad, and LRT was directing things around as well. Probably why Peb's stats may not have been high. That and the fact that he tended to leave the other boys to practice doing the hard yards.

Impressed by Paddy Mitchell. He was being given some stick by skinny kids who should have known better and he got right into them. OK, not much at kicking, but seems to have a trusty hand ball, and tap down work was coming along fine.

Ground anouncer couldn't make up his mind how to pronounce Nankervis, but my goodness he is a good looking lad. Big, and good looking.

Lloyd Perris was imho hot and cold, love Shane Biggs, and Xavier Richards is so safe and smart.

I nearly forgot Allir Allir. We have got a keeper there. He has skills. To be honed of course, but he has a certain amount of "it" factor that can't be taught. Must be encouraged and nurtured. Not quite like looking at MickyO on the move, but you get the picture.

Just as an aside: I have distinct reservations about T Head as a toppie. Anyone? I have sung his praises previously, but not today.

Rohan was playing a bit anxious. He had spurts of speed and not too many brain fades. Has cultivated a dolly mop of hair and I am not sure it works. Anyway back to the task at hand. He wasn't playing quite like a senior - yet. I get the feeling that if he gets frustrated, he will be on the move. But who would you drop to fit him in?

I do like Membrey. I really do. He seems to be growing, up and into, his place at the Swans. I like him a lot.

Tommy Mitchell, I have seen him play better, but the opposition .... well.... Can't say much when their score stayed the same for the last three quarters, can you.

Jared Crouch is a good coach. A very good coach. He looks to be nurturing quite a good side.

[wolftone57]

I was wondering if GWS would play Cameron in their reserves side, given that the reason he's said not to be playing in the senior side is because he can't fly at the moment (after an ear operation). Obviously they've decided he's better off having a rest than terrorising X or Aliir.

He had a perforated eardrum. His balance would be stuffed.

[wolftone57]

I agree with all the comments on the team performance. just a few things.

Pat Mitchell is showing plenty. But still hasn't quite got the hang of kicking. A couple of pie floaters at goal that floated toward the point posts. But he will learn. It will be good to see his progress by the end of the year.

Tommy Mitchell got plenty of ball but a few times I thought he tried to over think it, doing the fancy stuff when simple would have done.

I thought Gazza was pretty good. He hit the ball really hard and stuff anyone in his way. Not quite there yet but getting there.

George Hewitt while not as dominating today (he was heavily tagged) is all class. That goal he kicked was heaven and a couple of his passes were elite.

Toby continues to grow, metaphorically not figuratively. He bullied their rucks, followers and runners into submission. Then he turned on the Toby show taking some great marks and setting play up. great game from the lad.

Biggsy was really good again. What more can I say but that he baked the ball a few times. But that in the end didn't matter as his evasive skills and ability to extract us from danger time and again made those mistakes look puerile.

Zac Jones. bloody hell have we got one here. Hard as a steel rod. Crikey this bloke hits it hard. The other thing is he is really starting to show some of the class we heard he had. Some really beautifulk long raking passes and a few dinky short ones that were just divine.

ROK was great and showed the way for the young kids, directing them and playing dad.

LRT. Same as ROK played ok without being a star but stage managed the show in the forwardline. Directed the forward pressure and ensured everyone was doing their job.

Membrey was good as usual. he is a talent and I can't wait to see what he can do at senior level.

Towers. Deano played pretty well but he was inaccurate in front of the sticks. He is a very strong mark and at one stage UWS had four players flying against him and he still msanaged to bring the ball to ground, good effort that.

Perris looked a bit lost yesterday and his delivery, normally a feature of his game, was really off.

Tommy Walsh battled hard without being a huge factor. He had a reasonable comeback. Will be better for the run.

Xav is pretty good and gives the opposition nothing.

Aliir is bloody dynamic. I loved his game and he does the most unbelievable things. one day I would love to see him just back himself and then we will see something special. He seems to be building up to something. When he gets full confidence in his abilities watch out AFL opposition teams.

Matty Dick gets the ball a lot but makes a lot of really bad decisions and he is not the best kick in the NEAFL. If he had used the ball well he may well have made my best but he baked it too often and just seemed to get lost on occasions and make really bad decisions.

Jordan Lockyer. He was serviceable. Made a few glaring errors but generally was ok.

[dimelb]

Thanks wolfie - appreciated.

[Auntie.Gerald]

thanks Wolf
any comments on Marsh
Is he starting to impose himself a little more in the clearance areas ?

[Gezball]

You can get stats off the Footy Live App (not the official AFL Live app just to be confusing)

ROK 36 touches 6 marks 7 tackles
T.MItchell 20 touches 1 mark 7 tackles

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Ugg, where do you find this on the Footy Live app? I've tried to find it with no luck..

[ugg]

Ugg, where do you find this on the Footy Live app? I've tried to find it with no luck..
should be on the App Store. By sportsmate if that helps

[Gezball]

should be on the App Store. By sportsmate if that helps

Sorry, I probably wasn't very clear, I mean where do you find the reserves stats on the Footy Live app? I have the app.

[ugg]

Sorry, I probably wasn't very clear, I mean where do you find the reserves stats on the Footy Live app? I have the app.
Oh right, you have to change the competition to "NEAFL" and then it's under the "Players" tab.

[giant]

This is the first time the much talked-about forward line of 4 talls: LRT-Nankervis-Walsh-Membrey will be playing together!

Gold.

[707]

Liking the sound of these reports as it seems we have a lot of talent pushing up. List changes at the end of the year will be interesting to say the least.

[Meg]

One of the (many) things I enjoyed reading in the reports above were the references to the onfield coaching role taken on by ROK. I have also read a couple of articles about Lloyd in which he expresses his gratitude to ROK (who apparently is his Swans mentor) for his support and advice.

It sounds as if ROK has responded to his drop from the seniors as a true club man. I have huge respect for that, it is not an easy thing to do.

[Reggi]

I missed it but apparently Stury Dew on 3aw said ROK understood where he was at intimating he was unlikely to play again without serious injuries

[Gezball]

Oh right, you have to change the competition to "NEAFL" and then it's under the "Players" tab.

Excellent! Thanks!

[Rod_]

I missed it but apparently Stury Dew on 3aw said ROK understood where he was at intimating he was unlikely to play again without serious injuries

I have always been impressed now I am super impressed. To play nearly 300 games and add real value in the 2nd's well done and thanks

[dimelb]

I have always been impressed now I am super impressed. To play nearly 300 games and add real value in the 2nd's well done and thanks

Hear, hear.

[Auntie.Gerald]

thanks Wolf
any comments on Marsh
Is he starting to impose himself a little more in the clearance areas ?

Just wondering if we have any further comments on Marsh in last weeks ressies game i missed ?

In particular second efforts and ability to clear from the ruck?

[ugg]

With ROK and T.Mitchell in the team, coupled with other options in Robinson and Hewett, Marsh has played less of an inside role as of late. He started on a wing for numerous centre bounces.

The report against Brisbane reserves was that he played a role in defence when the Lions were clawing their way back in the second half.

[wolftone57]

thanks Wolf
any comments on Marsh
Is he starting to impose himself a little more in the clearance areas ?

He was pretty good. Went back at one stage as the defence had started to leak and immediately had an impact. Very balanced player in the Kennedy vein but I don't think he is as prolific as Joey. Going to be hard for him going forward as Joey doesn't look like a Mac Truck could hurt him, I hope not anyway LOL.

Very disappointed with BJ. He had a game he might like to look at, find out where he is going wrong and contemplate fixing the probs. He hits the ball so hard and fast that sometimes I think his brain only catches up when it is too late. Had as lot of fumbles and brain fades against UWS. Very disappointing and at this stage Membrey & Towers are way ahead no matter BJ's pace. Pace is only good if you don't waste or fumble the ball.

[liz]

NEAFL Wrap: Round 7 (http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2014-05-13/neafl-wrap-round-7)

Here is Coach Crouch's review. For those worried that Rohan wasn't doing enough, looks like Crouchy was happy with his contribution. Also gives a rap to ROK for the onfield leadership and encouragement that others have commented on in this thread.

[Ludwig]

BJ has a good highlights reel, but too many lowlights for my liking. He's an impact player over a short period of time, but poor value atm over the course of the game. I'm sure he'll fix up his weakness. He's got a lot of talent and a demanding brother, so he should come good.

[ugg]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-VPBTp_Cns

From 0:19 to 1:40

[Primmy]

Thanks for that ugg.

Running a copy and paste by me from another Thread re Peb.

He was not moving around the ground, looked to be restricted, even with those lovely legs, and he was directing the kids on where to go etc. How he picked up 30+ is beyond me, but he did. Started to watch him carefully and had a lovely chuckle about we call the Brett Alison Syndrome - senior player in ressies, enthusiastically coaching from within. The guys that do that, witness Henry and Jarrod Crouch, turn out to be coaches. Good ones at that.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Thanks Wolf and others

I worry that his talent, kicking, marking ability isnt being matched with enough hunger to impose himself on gam day

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2014 COACHES CALL for Swampy
His 2013 season was a building year. He played a lot in the midfield at the start of the year and then hamstring injuries finished his season early.

His pre-season has been terrific. He?s definitely been a standout. He came back to the club in very good condition and he obviously had done the work. In his exit interview last year getting himself fit in the off-season was obviously an area of focus, which he clearly took seriously leading into the New Year. In his first time trial, he shaved a lot off his PB and he?s just kept on improving since then.

We hope in 2014 he can really step up. Now his fitness base and aerobic capacity is at a certain level, we want to see him impact games and really push for senior selection. He really looks to be in that boat now so he really needs to start to think about playing senior footy.

[liz]

Some players take longer than others. Some lose their opportunity (ie their club gives up on them before they are ready); others get lucky and someone keeps the faith. Bear in mind that Kennedy took several years to establish himself as a senior player, and that was after a change of club.

[Aaron]

Horse commented on ROK's situation - Swans great Ryan O'Keefe being squeezed from overflowing midfield (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/swans-great-ryan-okeefe-being-squeezed-from-overflowing-midfield-20140513-zrbix.html)
After the reserves game last Friday, most of the young players were at section 127 watching the seniors playing but no sight of ROK and LRT

[swanspant12]

I love the youngsters coming through in our reserves. Membrey, Towers, Jack, Rohan, Mitchell, Nankervis, Perris all have very bright futures at our club IMO and will take over from our veterans when they retire.

[undy]

Horse commented on ROK's situation - Swans great Ryan O'Keefe being squeezed from overflowing midfield (http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/swans-great-ryan-okeefe-being-squeezed-from-overflowing-midfield-20140513-zrbix.html)
After the reserves game last Friday, most of the young players were at section 127 watching the seniors playing but no sight of ROK and LRT

ROK was there at least for a substantial part of the game, looked very cheerful and was happy to interact with fans.

[Meg]

ROK and Jared Crouch must be good mates given their partnership in Premiership Quarter taking cycling tours to Asia. Hopefully that has made the transition easier for ROK going from the seniors to the reserves and reserves' mentor role.

Crouch and O'Keefe launch Premiership Quarter - sydneyswans.com.au (http://m.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2012-03-26/crouch-and-okeefe-launch-premiership-quarter)

[wolftone57]

NEAFL Wrap: Round 7 (http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2014-05-13/neafl-wrap-round-7)

Here is Coach Crouch's review. For those worried that Rohan wasn't doing enough, looks like Crouchy was happy with his contribution. Also gives a rap to ROK for the onfield leadership and encouragement that others have commented on in this thread.

I don't know where they got the idea Rohan didn't do enough. I thought he hit the packs really hard and ran the ball well. He is still not at his best but boy he is getting closer & closer every week.

[wolftone57]

Thanks Wolf and others

I worry that his talent, kicking, marking ability isnt being matched with enough hunger to impose himself on gam day

.....................................



2014 COACHES CALL for Swampy
His 2013 season was a building year. He played a lot in the midfield at the start of the year and then hamstring injuries finished his season early.

His pre-season has been terrific. He?s definitely been a standout. He came back to the club in very good condition and he obviously had done the work. In his exit interview last year getting himself fit in the off-season was obviously an area of focus, which he clearly took seriously leading into the New Year. In his first time trial, he shaved a lot off his PB and he?s just kept on improving since then.

We hope in 2014 he can really step up. Now his fitness base and aerobic capacity is at a certain level, we want to see him impact games and really push for senior selection. He really looks to be in that boat now so he really needs to start to think about playing senior footy.

I think I rather agree AG. He has enormous talent and I am a bit worried about his second efforts & one percenters. He goes in and out of the game rather than being consistent. He seems to drop off a lot but when he was put in the backline he was magnificent. Matty Dick went to the mids and was far better there than he was giving the ball up in the backs. Maybe they need to change around.

[ugg]

NEAFL MVP votes
Sydney Swans vs UWS Giants
9 Toby Nankervis Sydney Swans
7 Matthew Dick Sydney Swans
6 Daniel Robinson Sydney Swans
4 Brandon Jack Sydney Swans
2 Dean Towers Sydney Swans
1 Ryan O'Keefe Sydney Swans
1 Rory Lobb UWS Giants

I'm fairly certain the only possible breakdown is
5 Nankervis, Dick
4 B.Jack, Nankervis
3 Robinson, Robinson
2 Dick, Towers
1 Lobb, ROK

Guessing the umpires were the ones that gave BJ a 4, since he wasn't mentioned in the NEAFL Wrap this week. But then again, Rohan was "Player of the Week" and received no votes here so who knows?

MVP Leaderboard as at Round 7
34 Matthew Payne Aspley
26 Daniel Robinson Sydney Swans
26 Alwyn Davey NT Thunder
22 Aaron Vandenberg Ainslie
21 Jason Burge Southport
20 Luke Shreeve Southport
19 Timothy Barton Sydney University
19 Sean Ellis Ainslie
18 Benjamin Rioli NT Thunder


Goalkicker Leaderboard as at Round 7
21 Tim Membrey Sydney Swans
19 Darren Ewing NT Thunder
19 Edward Sansbury Aspley
18 Christopher Dunne NT Thunder
18 Joshua Baxter Southport
18 Nick Salter Ainslie
16 Cleve Hughes Redland
15 Nicholas Paine Ainslie
14 William ( Jnr ) Rioli NT Thunder
13 Adam Hughes Aspley