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wolftone57
8th August 2014, 02:49 PM
We travel out to Blacktown International Sports Park this week to play Gold Coast. We have played the Suns twice so far this season. In the first game we gave them a footy lesson at home.

Swans R. 19.17=131 to Suns 4.7=31

On the second occasion it was far closer. They got a few player back and we lost a few due to injury. We also played them at Metricon as a curtain raiser to the Suns match.

Swans R. 12.12=84 to Suns 9.12=66

The suns will be packing a pretty good line up for tomorrow's match. They are almost at full strength but so are we. This week we get Membrey & Towers back from the Seniors but lose our most consistent player Shane Biggs, who is travelling emergency for the Port match. We also gain Zac Jones back from injury and Academy players from the Rams duty, including Abe Davis, Jack Hiscox and Callum Mills. The swans side is certainly strong but we are not playing at home and the NEAFL draw is flawed, in that several of our home games this year, have been played while our Seniors played away games. The NEAFL might consider Blacktown International Sports Park our home ground but we don't. Only five games this year are curtain raisers to the Seniors, which is unforgivable. I don't know who does the draw for the NEAFL but they might like to look at getting the Reserves as a curtain raiser, a bit more often.

The teams for this week are;

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Round 19

Sydney Swans

Coach Jared Crouch

Captain


Backs 22. Dean Towers 42. Xavier Richards 28. Matthew Dick

HB 18. Jordan Lockyer 17. Tommy Walsh 31. Harrison Marsh

C 29. George Hewett 50. Jordan Foote 53. Callum Mills

HF 60. Abe Davis 1.Tim Membrey 51. Jack Hiscox

FF 45. Patrick Mitchell 13. Toby Nankervis 30. Lewis Roberts-Thomson

Rucks 35 Sam Naismith, 5 Ryan O?Keefe, 50. Mitch Wright

Interchange; 10. Zak Jones, 6 Tom Mitchell, 33. Brandon Jack, 58. Ryan Hebron

Emergencies; 49. Nick Hey

Ins & Outs;

In?s; 22. Dean Towers, 60. Abe Davis, 50. Jordan Foote, 53.Callum Mills, 51. Jack Hiscox, 10. Zak Jones, 58. Ryan Hebron

Out?s; 46. Shane Biggs, 59. Michael Dickson, 49. Jackson Kelly, 27. Daniel Robinson, 54. Daniel Preen, 48. Jack Parker, 51. Vahid Rose

The side will not line up this way, Towers will play forward, Zac Jones will start as will BJ & Tom Mitchell. We are very tall up forward, so expect to see one of the talls start on the pine.


NEAFL WEEKLY TEAM LIST

Round 19

Club name Gold Coast Suns

Coach Josh Fraser

Captain Tom Murphy

FB 29. Tom Murphy 20. Henry Schade 42. Michael Gugliotta

HB 27. Clay Cameron 48. Seb Tape 31. Jackson Allen

C 53.Darcy Trask 21. Jeremy Taylor 3. Timmy Sumner

HF 43. Jarred Ellis 14. Matthew Warnock 45. Jack James

FF 54. Dylan Mutu 38. Jack Leslie 55. Ben Beaven

Rucks 57. Bradie Foster , 41. Leigh Osborne , 7. Karmichael Hunt

Interchange; 60. Robert Blood, 49. Kieran LeJuene, 52. James Holland, 58. Craig Malone

Emergencies; 51. Jayden O?Donnell,59. Matthew Skubis, 56. James Farley Smith

In?s & Out?s

In?s; Herbert, Hunt, Leslie, Mutu, Trask, Blood, Le Juene, Michael, Malone, Beaven, James, Hannaford

Out?s; Matera, Taylor, Bowes, Macansh, Adkins, Goodall, Farley-Smith, Groves, Stokes, O?Donnell

The Suns are 0-16 on the bottom of the ladder and we are 12-3 sitting fourth. We should account for them quite easily but they have a few players back and have been improving as the season has progressed. Expect a feisty performance from the Suns but I think it will be the Swans who take home the biscuits in this one.

Swans by 30 points.

Untamed Snark
8th August 2014, 03:20 PM
Thanks Wolfie :smile:

dimelb
8th August 2014, 03:24 PM
Thanks Wolfie - nice work!

And yes, those Swans make a pretty good team by the look of it.

jono2707
8th August 2014, 03:56 PM
Nice work Wolfie.

I think we'll get em by closer to 60 - the Suns reserves have been pretty poor.....

Conor_Dillon
8th August 2014, 04:31 PM
That's a very handy reserves team...would have thought the club would want Laidler playing some minutes over the weekend though!

satchmopugdog
8th August 2014, 05:47 PM
Thanks Wolf

Auntie.Gerald
9th August 2014, 07:47 AM
cant wait to watch Callum Mills

will be interesting to watch the match up on Abe and particularly focus on his second efforts / work rate

young Jordan Foote can play also

wedge.maverick
9th August 2014, 10:12 AM
Gold Coast ruckman Bradie Foster is off THE RECRUIT. It will be interesting to see how much he has come on.

YvonneH
9th August 2014, 11:06 AM
Gold Coast ruckman Bradie Foster is off THE RECRUIT. It will be interesting to see how much he has come on.

Does this mean that he won THE RECRUIT (not likely as there is a special draft for the winner isn't there?), or was he voted off but picked up by the GCS anyway?

ScottH
9th August 2014, 01:24 PM
From Big Al's twitter


Big Al @big_al_swans
Swans 73
Suns 40

Q4 20min

Flying shot from Richards hits the post. From the kick in Patty Mitchell finds Nankervis who kicks truly

lwjoyner
9th August 2014, 04:05 PM
are the final scores etc available

Zlatorog
9th August 2014, 04:34 PM
The final result was Swans 92 Suns 46.

rojo
9th August 2014, 05:04 PM
"Live" game now showing on Youtube - just started 2nd quarter

wedge.maverick
9th August 2014, 07:20 PM
Does this mean that he won THE RECRUIT (not likely as there is a special draft for the winner isn't there?), or was he voted off but picked up by the GCS anyway?

More than likely just lives in Gold Coast's zone and they've given him a run.

wolftone57
12th August 2014, 02:35 PM
The Highlights;

NEAFL TV Round 19 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biKw7n66T6Y&index=1&list=UUT944Kign04l1Pkc23LDxHQ)

The Game;

Sydney Swans v Gold Coast Suns - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exy5ErJE5iY&list=UUT944Kign04l1Pkc23LDxHQ&index=4)

I was a bit disappointed with some of Brandon Jack's skill errors. Dropped marks, blind overhead handballing when there were players who could have received within eyeshot, kicks that either dropped short or were too high and created a contested ball. Even though he got plenty of ball if he is to step up to AFL level his concentration has to improve.

Towers was very good I thought. He still needs to plunk the marks, he drops them too easy and at AFL level he won't get away with that.

Membrey is a very good player. He didn't kick as many goals as I expected but the delivery was, there is only one word for it, sewage.

Mitchell played ok but I think he will be better for another run.

Naismith played well in the ruck and controlled the ruck. A pity his mids were not on the end of some of those nice hit outs that ended up with Gold Coast.

ROK was ok but not as dominant as in previous games.

LRT is finished there is no way back. Retirement is imminent. He looked lost at times in this match.

Hewett is composed and was the best mid we had. Looking forward to his first Seniors game, he is cherry ripe.

Zac Jones was pretty good for a first up. Look forward to seeing this bloke get more Seniors time.

Xav Richards was very good, hardly ever beaten. Runs the ball out of defence so well. He has this side step that is amazing, you think he is going to side step one way and then he reverses it and catches the opponent totally off guard. I don't think there are too many worries about him not developing.

Tommy Walsh was bloody brilliant. He seems to have gained a few yards and is really hard at the contest. Seems to have got some mongrel about him playing in defence. His tackling is ferocious and his timing is very good. I liked his delivery & marking. there wasn't a lot to dislike about his game, definitely one of the top three.

Lockyer, wasted the ball too often. Knows how to get it but then? too many kickes that just didn't hit their mark.

Dick, hardly sighted this week very quiet. did a couple of good things but much quieter.

Marsh, did some really impressive work coming off the back flank. Some hard, strong body work. Liked his delivery too.

Toby Nankervis was pretty good as usual. The ball didn't sit too well for him at times but he battled on. Between him and Big Sammy the ruck situation is pretty good.

Of the top ups Mills & Hiscox & Mitch Wright were all ok.

This was a terrible game. There wasn't much to recommend it at all. Scrappy, terrible skills, bad umpiring (allowed the ball to stay in packs far too long), terrible goal kicking. it didn't help that the game started in thick fog. you could hardly see the Suns players in the first quarter. After half time the fog disappeared and the dew settled. I don't think games at 10am on a winter Saturday at Blacktown are even worth the effort. The NEAFL are IDIOTS for even thinking this can work. The main game of this double header was Redland v Sydney Uni which seems silly seeing the curtain raiser was being played between two AFL Reserves sides. The upshot is the games should not start until midday or 12.30pm.

Meg
12th August 2014, 02:50 PM
Thanks Wolfie, very interesting report.

Ludwig
12th August 2014, 02:53 PM
Thanks for the write-up Wolfie. It was a better game from Xav, which is pleasing, as I was getting a bit worried about his progress.

A 40 possession game from Mills might stir the pot in Melbourne. 1083

It was the 2nd lacklustre performance from Abe Davis. Maybe he's Danking (Draft Tanking).

wolftone57
12th August 2014, 05:02 PM
Thanks for the write-up Wolfie. It was a better game from Xav, which is pleasing, as I was getting a bit worried about his progress.

A 40 possession game from Mills might stir the pot in Melbourne. 1083

It was the 2nd lacklustre performance from Abe Davis. Maybe he's Danking (Draft Tanking).

Mills was very good but needs to tidy up his delivery. He was very shaky on the short kick quite a few times. I like the fact he can get his own ball and his in close stuff is really good. A bit like Hewett but not as polished. Abe looked out of sorts and didn't compete on several occasions. Just seemed happy to let play slide by. He also did not impact the contest when he should on many occasions. He has a big body he should have imposed himself. I will give him the doubt and presume he is either ill or is carrying an injury.

Conor_Dillon
12th August 2014, 05:06 PM
Probably just nerves from Mills...his skills in the national champs were elite

rojo
12th August 2014, 05:31 PM
Thanks Wolfie, your report was a relief to me. I watched the game for three quarters, not sure why, and found it hard to believe that all the players (except the toppies) were pushing for a game in the AFL seniors . Thankfully the standard of play picked up a bit in the 3rd quarter and from the scores it looks like the Swans were on top in the last. I agree with your comments re Walsh and Zac Jones. No one else stood out to me much but watching on a small screen dependent on numbers-on-backs to pick out the not-easily-recognisable players is probably the reason for that. NS was tapping down well but often straight to an opposition player. I was trying to pick out Mills to follow but couldn't keep track of him.

Was I being over-critical !!! When you are used to watching the seniors all the time the difference in intensity and skill levels understandably stands out. It must also make a difference to have toppies in the side. Paul Kelly speaking about his son's game mentioned that it is challenging for a young player to come into a side not knowing the other players or the game plan and structures. That said, I was expecting a bit more of some of the senior team hopefuls.

wolftone57
12th August 2014, 06:11 PM
Thanks Wolfie, your report was a relief to me. I watched the game for three quarters, not sure why, and found it hard to believe that all the players (except the toppies) were pushing for a game in the AFL seniors . Thankfully the standard of play picked up a bit in the 3rd quarter and from the scores it looks like the Swans were on top in the last. I agree with your comments re Walsh and Zac Jones. No one else stood out to me much but watching on a small screen dependent on numbers-on-backs to pick out the not-easily-recognisable players is probably the reason for that. NS was tapping down well but often straight to an opposition player. I was trying to pick out Mills to follow but couldn't keep track of him.

Was I being over-critical !!! When you are used to watching the seniors all the time the difference in intensity and skill levels understandably stands out. It must also make a difference to have toppies in the side. Paul Kelly speaking about his son's game mentioned that it is challenging for a young player to come into a side not knowing the other players or the game plan and structures. That said, I was expecting a bit more of some of the senior team hopefuls.

This was a really bad game. I have noticed when we have had these 10am starts that we don't play so well for at least a half. One of the worst games of the season really. The fog didn't help in the first quarter & a half and the dew was still making the turf very slippery up until half time according to the commentary. Not that 'Brewery' Forbes is a good judge but Blair Dwyer seems a bit more sensible and he walked out onto the ground at the breaks. We didn't stick to the set ups and out delivery was terrible to the forward half for most of the game. The delivery out of defence was on occasion not good too. But our main concern was the scrappy mid work, a lot of fumbling, some down to the conditions, exept in the second half the conditions were perfect for footy. There were a lot of mistakes under pressure but it was the mistakes when players were under no pressure that was worrying. Lockyer ran through the centre of the ground the last link man in a series of passes and HB at least three times in the third and coughed it up every time. His delivery terrible, he had plenty of ball but wasted it mostly.

Just a really horrible game that even the coaches will want to forget. But they can't and will have the tape out this week. I doubt they will play this badly again. Some people say 'they are a bottom side they brought us down to their level'. I believe that is crap. A good side destroys an incompetent one if they play well! Simple!

troyjones2525
12th August 2014, 09:00 PM
Just watched 3 qtrs and must say that Mitchell was still the best player on the ground. We have to get him in the seniors somehow, I dont know how many touches he got but I would think 30 plus, most quality. It's a hard call but out of Mitchell and Lloyd in the seniors I think Mitchell still shades him. He has the ability to dominate games in patches more so than Lloyd at this stage but I love them both! As others have said Jones and Walsh were excellent down back in a scrappy game. Towers showed some class and great speed at times as did Marsh. Finally I must say I kept a close eye on Mills out there in the #53 and wow, this boy is just under 2 years away from senior football and to be honest I think he played a better game than the highly rated Hewitt! Just how good he can be is the question with natural development and a bigger build but wow, I think we have a beauty there! A lot to like from a lot of our youngsters even from a lacklustre game but plenty of nice cameos!

liz
12th August 2014, 09:25 PM
It's interesting that they've been playing Marsh off the half back flank in recent weeks. I think he played there for WA at U18 level but the Swans had him in mind as a midfielder when he arrived. He doesn't seem to have the natural nous to know where to run to be a high production midfielder but he's looked pretty good running out of defence once switched back there. With his genuine speed, and with Malceski and Shaw's years at the club coming to and end (whether this year or not), we will be looking for some good half back flankers in the not too distant future so he might yet carve out a career in that role.

That does mean that he and Dick are possibly competing for a single spot on next year's list.

Auntie.Gerald
12th August 2014, 09:57 PM
It's interesting that they've been playing Marsh off the half back flank in recent weeks. I think he played there for WA at U18 level but the Swans had him in mind as a midfielder when he arrived. He doesn't seem to have the natural nous to know where to run to be a high production midfielder but he's looked pretty good running out of defence once switched back there. With his genuine speed, and with Malceski and Shaw's years at the club coming to and end (whether this year or not), we will be looking for some good half back flankers in the not too distant future so he might yet carve out a career in that role.

That does mean that he and Dick are possibly competing for a single spot on next year's list.

Dick out and Marsh in for me !

I still see alot of upside for Marsh..........he does HBF easy and is very young at 20yrs of age to judge his transition to midfield...........Kennedy type project for the midfield maybe still is not out of the question

For me Marsh still reminds me of a Hodge style HBF who plays a bit in the midfield also with their penetrating long kick and great overhead mark...........but Swampy has not found that killer instinct yet when it comes to attacking the game.........This is not an easy challenge either because he has such quality midfielders still around him in ressies as he did last year also who simply accumulate one possession after the other

ROK
Mitchell
Hewett
Jones
Robinson

etc etc

dimelb
14th August 2014, 11:24 AM
Nice one Wolfie - Coach Crouch agrees with you on BOG (and some others). And that's a good sign for Tommy and for the Swans.

NEAFL Wrap - Round 19 (http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2014-08-13/neafl-wrap-round-19)