Teams: Ins and Outs

[Benevolent Ert]

Sydney:
In: Davis
Out: Ablett

Melbourne:
In: Jamar, Armstrong, Johnstone
Out: Robertson (susp), Broadbridge, Walsh

[j s]

Pity about Luke but he was the most likely to be dropped.

[penga]

ablett is really a poor man's nick davis

an obvious swap as the other options are bevan and mcveigh

[Reggi]

SYDNEY
B: Mathews, James, Crouch
HB: Barry, C.Bolton, Kennelly
C: Maxfield, Kirk, Saddington
HF: Schneider, Hall, Williams
F: O?Keefe, Goodes, Davis
FOLL: Ball, Fosdike, J.Bolton
I/C: Bevan, Doyle, McVeigh, Roberts-Thomson
EMG: Buchanan, Ablett, Rogers
IN: Davis
OUT: Ablett

[Ganjaman]

Good to see Davis is back. What about Magic? Anyone know how he is fairing with the hammy?

[dawson]

Is Davis picked to play or is he going to have to pass a fitness test again?

[midaro]

Originally posted by dawson
Is Davis picked to play or is he going to have to pass a fitness test again?

Yep, good question. I won't be counting my chickens.

[dendol]

I think Davis will play. He was mighty close to playing last week, but wasnt risked because he was a bit sore after Wednesday's training.

Hoping Magic comes back next week against the Bombers. Will we get Schauble for that game to match up on Lloyd? Not sure if he will be made to have a run in the twos or if hes an automatic selection in the firsts.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by dendol
I think Davis will play. He was mighty close to playing last week, but wasnt risked because he was a bit sore after Wednesday's training.

Hoping Magic comes back next week against the Bombers. Will we get Schauble for that game to match up on Lloyd? Not sure if he will be made to have a run in the twos or if hes an automatic selection in the firsts.

Automatic selection.

[midaro]

Originally posted by Charlie
Automatic selection.
Micky, yes.
Schauble, no.
You'd have to worry about his fitness after 5-6 weeks off with a hammy. I'd reckon at least a week in the ressies, probably two.

[stellation]

Originally posted by Charlie
Automatic selection.

I would say

Micky, yes.
Schauble, yes.

both depending on fitness.

[ItsAllGoodes]

Whilst ya cant believe everything a coach says (even Roosey) he did say on Melbourne radio earlier this week that Schaubs was 2-3 weeks away...and I can only imagine that meant at least a game or two in the reserves

[gloveski]

starting to get a very setlled line up with only magic and schaubs the only walk up starts missing if davis plays

[Triple B]

I'm sure we can get away with Magic playing in bursts off the bench whilst regaining fitness. Without trying to sound harsh, even when on the field and fully fit, he tends to play in bursts anyway.

However I can see no way that Schauble will just regain a spot in the top side without a game or two or three in the ressies to gain some fitness. It's not as if we are struggling down back anyway. Of course injuries may play a part and he may get a spot if we get desperate, but hopefully it won't come to that.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by midaro
Micky, yes.
Schauble, no.
You'd have to worry about his fitness after 5-6 weeks off with a hammy. I'd reckon at least a week in the ressies, probably two.

Do you realise that Schauble, plaudits or not, is simply one of the most effective key defenders in the league?

He is, imo, in our top five in terms of importance.

[stellation]

Originally posted by Charlie
Do you realise that Schauble, plaudits or not, is simply one of the most effective key defenders in the league?

He is, imo, in our top five in terms of importance.

Charlie, everytime you speak about Andrew Schauble I agree.

[dendol]

Originally posted by Charlie
Do you realise that Schauble, plaudits or not, is simply one of the most effective key defenders in the league?

He is, imo, in our top five in terms of importance.

Yep. Without him fit and playing, we will be asking the same question every week: who do we play on {Lloyd; Lynch; Gehrig; Neitz; *insert gorilla here*}????? As good as James looks so far, I'd much rather see him take the second or third tall forward.

Also, Schauble's organisation and leadership on the last line is not to be undervalued.

[Grant]

Originally posted by Ganjaman
Good to see Davis is back. What about Magic? Anyone know how he is fairing with the hammy?

Roos said today on SEN that Davis will definately play this week,and Micky O will play next week,could have played this week but would rather make sure the hammy is fine and doesn't want to risk tearing it.

[midaro]

Originally posted by Charlie
Do you realise that Schauble, plaudits or not, is simply one of the most effective key defenders in the league?

He is, imo, in our top five in terms of importance.

Yes. I've often said that he's about the most underrated player at the Swans.

But a defender can't play without match fitness. Unlike Micky at the other end of the field, Schauble will have to match an opponent for stamina.

I'd bet money that Schauble will play reserves before seniors.

[Triple B]

Midaro, spot on the money.

Charlie, are you disagreeing with Midaro (and myself) or not?????

Can't see either of us disagreeing that Schaubs is a vital cog, just that he needs a run in the 2's.

Do you think he can/should come straight back in to the firsts or not?

[liz]

In the past I think Schaubs has come in straight to the senior team after his lay-offs, but usually to play forward for a couple of matches - which is feasible for the same reasons it is for Magic.

Just a problem of where he'd fit now that Saddo's moved in - Hall, Goodes, O'Loughlin, Davis, O'Keefe, Schauble, Saddo, Schneider all in the forward line might be a bit of overkill!

[Charlie]

Originally posted by BBB


Do you think he can/should come straight back in to the firsts or not?

I think he should. He's probably one of only about a dozen who could demand his spot back straight away.

Even playing off the bench, he's going to be worth having.

[Go Swannies]

Charlie - I'm with you. As I've been saying here for ages, he's an excellent football brain and we'll need him more and more as we go against the major teams. I suspect we'll miss him this weekend but we need the excitement anyway.

[sharpie]

The major issue I have with rushing either Schaubs or Magic back in without a run in the 2s is who to leave out? Surely at this stage the only guys to go could be McVeigh or Bevan, and I doubt any NRS nominee has ever been dropped the week after his nomination. Unless of course we have other injuries (sorry, just whacked myself in the head).

[Newbie]

Originally posted by Charlie
I think he should. He's probably one of only about a dozen who could demand his spot back straight away.

Even playing off the bench, he's going to be worth having.
You dont play a key defender off the bench, Charlie. If the defence works, you dont change your setup. If it does not work, the last thing you want is to throw a half-fit defender into the battle. He might re-injure himself playing catch-up. Giving him at least a couple of ressies is the natural choice. May be three games if we are conservative. How many weeks Schaubles has been on the sideline now??? 6-8???

[midaro]

Originally posted by sharpie
The major issue I have with rushing either Schaubs or Magic back in without a run in the 2s is who to leave out?
If we are amazingly lucky and we incur no new injuries before Schauble and O'Loughlin return (and that just isn't gonna happen ;) ), LRT would be the first to go - then O'Keefe ,Bevan and McVeigh, would be asked to draw numbers from a hat :)

[Old Royboy]

Our game plan relies heavily on the fitness of the back half and their ability to run the ball out of defense. So Shaubs will have to get fit in the twos first. Then we will have a nice problem. Magic must come straight back - he's won games for us on one leg in the past, and also never seems to lose his touch like others do.

[Newbie]

Originally posted by midaro
If we are amazingly lucky and we incur no new injuries before Schauble and O'Loughlin return (and that just isn't gonna happen ;) ), LRT would be the first to go - then O'Keefe ,Bevan and McVeigh, would be asked to draw numbers from a hat :)
Without LRT, our group of taller players seem quite static to me which is something I dont like.

We might want to rotate McVeigh and Bevan through the season, neither of them will last through the whole campaign.

I am no fan of O'Keefe as a midfielder. As a forward specialist, he is behind O'Loughlin, Davis and Schneider in pecking order.

[chammond]

Hmmm . . . playing a former club champion in the reserves.

That'll be interesting!

[liz]

Originally posted by chammond
Hmmm . . . playing a former club champion in the reserves.

That'll be interesting!

If it was good enough for Plugger...

[chammond]

Originally posted by lizz
If it was good enough for Plugger...

:D

[stellation]

other aspects of the two fellows in question (Andrew and Micky) might also come into consideration... one would imagine that Andrew might be a little more understanding and keen than Micky about having a run in the ressies ;)